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[Code S] RO16 Group C GSL 2012 Season 3 - Page 197

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benkei
Profile Joined June 2011
Spain51 Posts
July 04 2012 14:26 GMT
#3921
GG Naniwa! Fuck the haters!
qazadex
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia473 Posts
July 04 2012 14:26 GMT
#3922
If the positions were swapped, we would all be saying that Naniwa went full foreigner.
soverRR
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden348 Posts
July 04 2012 14:26 GMT
#3923
On July 04 2012 23:13 MCDayC wrote:
Also, could anyone else see MC taking it this season? It could happen, and that would be really amazing.


Doesn't matter if people can see it, few people expected him to make it out of the group of death, which he plowed through. Just like last season, when few people believed that Mvp would take it. People too busy hyping new players.
Ph4ZeD
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom753 Posts
July 04 2012 14:27 GMT
#3924
On July 04 2012 23:26 qazadex wrote:
If the positions were swapped, we would all be saying that Naniwa went full foreigner.


Yep. But they aren't :D
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
July 04 2012 14:27 GMT
#3925
On July 04 2012 23:24 Domus wrote:
I don't get all the butt hurt people in here. If your opponent makes a mistake that loses him the match, then it is NOT luck. You simply played better, because you did not make a mistake...sheesh...He did not research Thermal Lance, how can you still expect Genius to win...Genius had multiple blunders, terrible positioning, and bad decision making in the fight...Sure he did some things well, but I don't care how good you macro, mistakes like that are going to get punished at this level, and Naniwa deserved the win.


It is luck. Sorry to say but certain things are luck based. Nobody studied genius to realize he never gets collosus range
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
July 04 2012 14:27 GMT
#3926
On July 04 2012 23:23 Beardedclam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 23:21 Night Eyes wrote:
[image loading]

Guess Genius needs to practice some more ^^

Edit: taken form Khaldor's twitter.


More like Naniwa got knocked out early and was sitting behind him watching all his PvP builds. Pretty grimy if you ask me, but that's just how Naniwa is. I am surprised he has so many fans but it makes sense because most people wouldn't be his fan if he wasn't winning.

What a load of rubbish, I'm not really a fan but there's nothing wrong with him watching genius' games.

Vorgrim
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (North)1601 Posts
July 04 2012 14:27 GMT
#3927
Don't normally cheer on Protosses, but it's nice to see a foreigner doing well. Good luck in the round of 8, Naniwa.
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
July 04 2012 14:27 GMT
#3928
On July 04 2012 23:23 Beardedclam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 23:21 Night Eyes wrote:
[image loading]

Guess Genius needs to practice some more ^^

Edit: taken form Khaldor's twitter.


More like Naniwa got knocked out early and was sitting behind him watching all his PvP builds. Pretty grimy if you ask me, but that's just how Naniwa is. I am surprised he has so many fans but it makes sense because most people wouldn't be his fan if he wasn't winning.

I became his fan after making Korea sacrifice to be the best. He got ran over first few months but stuck it out anyway unlike many same reason I like HuK win or lose.
MC for president
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
July 04 2012 14:28 GMT
#3929
On July 04 2012 23:22 Tsubbi wrote:
you guys sure he didnt have thermal lance? need to check the vod later


^This!

Can somebody check the vod, because I did not have the feelinng that Genius was missing range.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 04 2012 14:28 GMT
#3930
On July 04 2012 23:22 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 23:21 SilentSC2 wrote:
On July 04 2012 23:20 Dodgin wrote:
Being a Naniwa anti-fan must be a tough life.


It is...


Try being a MKP anti-fan. Even harder


Just say three letters: G S L

That kid can't catch a break in this tournament :|
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
masterchip27
Profile Joined April 2011
United States284 Posts
July 04 2012 14:28 GMT
#3931
On July 04 2012 23:10 pyro19 wrote:
Line Collosus > Balled Collosus

Also Range is Pretty Good :D


Call me a noob, but it was impressive to me that he facerolled Genius in that battle even knowing that Genius didn't have range. Like a 100 supply drop for Genius and like nothing for Naniwa, is what I thought I saw (I am sleep-deprived so not sure lol)
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
July 04 2012 14:28 GMT
#3932
On July 04 2012 23:24 Domus wrote:
I don't get all the butt hurt people in here. If your opponent makes a mistake that loses him the match, then it is NOT luck. You simply played better, because you did not make a mistake...sheesh...He did not research Thermal Lance, how can you still expect Genius to win...Genius had multiple blunders, terrible positioning, and bad decision making in the fight...Sure he did some things well, but I don't care how good you macro, mistakes like that are going to get punished at this level, and Naniwa deserved the win.


No it's not, it's pure luck. Absolutely 100% luck.

There is definitely a large part of Sc2 and all sports where if you play really well it makes your opponent look really bad and you can force errors. For example in football if you're a team who presses the ball high up if forces the opposition defence into errors because they are rushed on the ball.

This game was absolutely not one of those situations.

This game was the equivalent of a defender it back to the goalkeepers who then trips on the grass and the ball rolls into the net. There is no skill in that, there is nothing you've done to cause it.

Just like there was no skill on Naniwa's part to make Genius forget Thermal Lance. It was all on Genius. Naniwa lucked out completely in a game he otherwise looked likely to lose.
napo
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania622 Posts
July 04 2012 14:28 GMT
#3933
On July 04 2012 23:27 GreyKnight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 23:24 Domus wrote:
I don't get all the butt hurt people in here. If your opponent makes a mistake that loses him the match, then it is NOT luck. You simply played better, because you did not make a mistake...sheesh...He did not research Thermal Lance, how can you still expect Genius to win...Genius had multiple blunders, terrible positioning, and bad decision making in the fight...Sure he did some things well, but I don't care how good you macro, mistakes like that are going to get punished at this level, and Naniwa deserved the win.


It is luck. Sorry to say but certain things are luck based. Nobody studied genius to realize he never gets collosus range

Its a mistake. And in the end, the player who made less mistakes went through.

Also nani's defense vs the speed-prism was stellar. Usually that thing does a whole lot of damage, but nani feinted it nicely.
Though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
July 04 2012 14:29 GMT
#3934
damn would you imagine if he reaches the semis? finals? shit is trending on twitter lol
banelings
Beardedclam
Profile Joined September 2010
United States839 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 14:29:38
July 04 2012 14:29 GMT
#3935
On July 04 2012 23:26 najreteip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 23:23 Beardedclam wrote:
On July 04 2012 23:21 Night Eyes wrote:
[image loading]

Guess Genius needs to practice some more ^^

Edit: taken form Khaldor's twitter.


More like Naniwa got knocked out early and was sitting behind him watching all his PvP builds. Pretty grimy if you ask me, but that's just how Naniwa is. I am surprised he has so many fans but it makes sense because most people wouldn't be his fan if he wasn't winning.

Come on now, I can understand if you're not a fan, but this...
have some dignity please


You thinks that's respectful? Right before your code S match you go and sit directly behind the person you are facing and watch how he plays? Of course genius is going to be using the same builds as Code S because he is trying to qualify for OSL. It's disgusting.
"bye bye" - genius "#$@% you" - Idra------------|Genius|DRG|Keen|---------Breakfast.213
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
July 04 2012 14:29 GMT
#3936
I think Genius lost the game, Naniwa certainly didn't do anything to win it.
KT FlaSh FOREVER
StarGalaxy
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany744 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 14:31:14
July 04 2012 14:30 GMT
#3937
On July 04 2012 23:21 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 23:16 Inflicted_ wrote:
On July 04 2012 23:14 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 04 2012 23:12 Inflicted_ wrote:
On July 04 2012 23:10 Plexa wrote:
On July 04 2012 23:09 ibo422 wrote:
did genuis had range? I missed it

No. Naniwa would have lost that fight if genius had range stupid way to lose

but good for nani!


NaNiwa still had more Archons, I believe. Would've been a closer fight, but I don't think it would've been a guarantee win for Genius.


You must be new to the game.

9 3/2 Collosus vs 7 3/0 Collosus = rape. Micro barely matters in late game PvP collosus wars.

He forgot range, that was that.


2 Collosi vs 5+ Archons. NaNiwa was down on Collosi because he was investing his gas into something else (in this case Archons). Just because you have more Collosi, doesn't mean you win the fight.


Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 23:16 SpiZe wrote:
On July 04 2012 23:14 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 04 2012 23:12 Inflicted_ wrote:
On July 04 2012 23:10 Plexa wrote:
On July 04 2012 23:09 ibo422 wrote:
did genuis had range? I missed it

No. Naniwa would have lost that fight if genius had range stupid way to lose

but good for nani!


NaNiwa still had more Archons, I believe. Would've been a closer fight, but I don't think it would've been a guarantee win for Genius.


You must be new to the game.

9 3/2 Collosus vs 7 3/0 Collosus = rape. Micro barely matters in late game PvP collosus wars.

He forgot range, that was that.


Then you are ignorant, micro is everything in lategame PvP, it's all about the guy that can force the better engagement. I agree that it didn't matter when you don't have range, but you can easily win a fight in PvP even if you are behind on ups if you have good micro. Doing simple stuff like pulling an immortal foward change the entire fight.


Two guys who definitely don't play Protoss at a decent level.

You get all your shit in front and your Colossus in back, you don't forget range and if you have better ups and/or more Colossus you win. Simple.

Microing only means your Colossus spend less time attacking, unless you Colossus are unprotected it's almost always counter productive to micro them, such is the quality of the unit design.


This is not entirely true. There are situation where you have to micro your Colosses. If your colossus are in the back like you said you can easily kite them. (Watch HasuObs against Huk at NASL2 finals on Dual Sight for example. Hasu micros his colosses (and army) and defends huks push)
Cj hero | Zest
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
July 04 2012 14:30 GMT
#3938
On July 04 2012 23:15 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 23:14 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On July 04 2012 23:12 Plexa wrote:
On July 04 2012 23:11 Nabes wrote:
On July 04 2012 23:10 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On July 04 2012 23:09 Surriel wrote:
Genius hating life for picking Naniwa again now.


Well he outplayed Naniwa really but forgot collosus range. He'd had won 4-2 if he hadn't forgotten range.


excuses blah blah

Call it an excuse if you like, but nani got really really lucky in that game

I say that as a fan of naniwa as well

a game is always decided by who makes the most mistakes, naniwa made less mistakes than genius, so won. you could say for any game "the winner got lucky because the loser makes X mistake"

There is no need to belittle naniwa's wins, he won vs 2 amazing players, and is in the ro8 of the best tourny in the world


But if Naniwa was called Inca and just played this series everyone would be laughing at how lucky Inca is.

just cos someone/the community says/thinks something, that doesnt make it true.
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
July 04 2012 14:30 GMT
#3939
On July 04 2012 23:29 Beardedclam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 23:26 najreteip wrote:
On July 04 2012 23:23 Beardedclam wrote:
On July 04 2012 23:21 Night Eyes wrote:
[image loading]

Guess Genius needs to practice some more ^^

Edit: taken form Khaldor's twitter.


More like Naniwa got knocked out early and was sitting behind him watching all his PvP builds. Pretty grimy if you ask me, but that's just how Naniwa is. I am surprised he has so many fans but it makes sense because most people wouldn't be his fan if he wasn't winning.

Come on now, I can understand if you're not a fan, but this...
have some dignity please


You thinks that's respectful? Right before your code S match you go and sit directly behind the person you are facing and watch how he plays? Of course genius is going to be using the same builds as Code S because he is trying to qualify for OSL. It's disgusting.

dang dude, you need to relax for a bit before you keep this up.

i mean, c'mon.
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
July 04 2012 14:30 GMT
#3940
On July 04 2012 23:29 Beardedclam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 23:26 najreteip wrote:
On July 04 2012 23:23 Beardedclam wrote:
On July 04 2012 23:21 Night Eyes wrote:
[image loading]

Guess Genius needs to practice some more ^^

Edit: taken form Khaldor's twitter.


More like Naniwa got knocked out early and was sitting behind him watching all his PvP builds. Pretty grimy if you ask me, but that's just how Naniwa is. I am surprised he has so many fans but it makes sense because most people wouldn't be his fan if he wasn't winning.

Come on now, I can understand if you're not a fan, but this...
have some dignity please


You thinks that's respectful? Right before your code S match you go and sit directly behind the person you are facing and watch how he plays? Of course genius is going to be using the same builds as Code S because he is trying to qualify for OSL. It's disgusting.


Not like the koreans try to watch every fucking replay of foreign players. Korean pride and all. And I don't think it really affected the matches to be honest.
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