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Rulker
United States1477 Posts
He just 2-0'd MKP in one TSL qual and 2-0'd him in ESV 3 bo series after this. Nice.  http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=2244&part=games&vs=959&league=any&map=any&from_year=2011&from_month=1&from_day=13&to_year=2012&to_month=6&to_day=22&action=Update http://www.teamliquid.net/tournaments/admin/?action=bracket&id=3218 | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On July 03 2012 09:12 Rulker wrote: I think with the balance as it is, 5-2 or 5-1, without balance as it is, it would be 5-3 at least if not MKP winning 5-3 5-2. However with Coca ZvT as is and ZvT in general as is I'm staying with 5-2 or 5-1, happy to eat my words though. 5-3 with patch, without patch i'd say MKP edges him out 5-4 or 5-3 maybe. =] | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On July 03 2012 09:10 opterown wrote: Oz had near 100% PvP for a while, too :p haha Alas, Coca's ZvP used to be untouchable, now it is only merely pretty good  /Korean Progamer problems | ||
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Thinasy
2856 Posts
On July 03 2012 09:12 Rulker wrote: He just 2-0'd MKP in one TSL qual and 2-0'd him in another. 3 bo series after this. Nice. Just like mvp wins against mkp, while mma wins against mvp, then mkp wins against mma. Says nothing. Overall results is a different story. | ||
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Rulker
United States1477 Posts
On July 03 2012 09:14 Thinasy wrote: Just like mvp wins against mkp, while mma wins against mvp, then mkp wins against mma. Says nothing. Overall results is a different story. MMA just 3-2 MKP in Stars War. Don't you mean MVP > Polt > MMA > MVP? Or not? | ||
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andaylin
United States10830 Posts
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Rulker
United States1477 Posts
On July 03 2012 09:14 opterown wrote: 5-3 with patch, without patch i'd say MKP edges him out 5-4 or 5-3 maybe. =] Without Patch 5-4 either way seems most likely | ||
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Rain.100
Germany946 Posts
On July 03 2012 09:07 opterown wrote: i vote: -remove atlantis spaceship -remove whirlwind -remove metropolis -remove cloud kingdom -add steppes of war i doubt many consider coca better in absolute skill. it's hard to say where he is. the maps are really the reason why so many korean terrans get owned by zerg. ofc every torunament wants to use huge maps for long macro games but terran doesnt have his shining moments in the late game - so they have to apply a lot of pressure in the early stages. but by using metropolis, daybreak, spacebear in every tournament terrans cant do what they have to do and lose. smaller maps and everything would be finde but no more insta 3base | ||
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MasterKang
United States1373 Posts
On July 03 2012 09:06 Dodgin wrote: Zergs throw away TvZ's by being passive? good one. yeah.... letting mkp take a 4th and 5th base after losing his entire army is kind of throwing away a game.... yeah... | ||
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zezamer
Finland5701 Posts
On July 03 2012 09:11 Chantastic wrote: Ah, I looked it up, the coaches of both parties involved said whenever both players had the right "mentality" again. Source here. But it's been about 8ish months, so quite a long time. Naa it was way shorter. I had to check it because couldn't remember how long the ban was. They got banned Nov 15th 2011 Buyn back in line up feb 18th 2012 Coca march 10th 2012 So it wasn't that long but it took him couple seasons to get back into good shape. | ||
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The Final Boss
United States1839 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On July 03 2012 09:16 Rulker wrote: MMA just 3-2 MKP in Stars War. Don't you mean MVP > Polt > MMA > MVP? Or not? MKP has 70% winrate vs MMA in Korea and 57% international, so It's not completely one-sided but there is an advantage. | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
He's still playing really well, of course! | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On July 03 2012 09:16 Rulker wrote: MMA just 3-2 MKP in Stars War. Don't you mean MVP > Polt > MMA > MVP? Or not? MKP is like 10-4 ish lifetime against MMA. http://www.sc2charts.net/en/edb/player_compare/861-mma/465-marineking | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On July 03 2012 09:17 zezamer wrote: Naa it was way shorter. I had to check it because couldn't remember how long the ban was. They got banned Nov 15th 2011 Buyn back in line up feb 18th 2012 Coca march 10th 2012 So it wasn't that long but it took him couple seasons to get back to code S. Byun's back in Code S, Coca unfortunately is still in Code B. | ||
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Rulker
United States1477 Posts
On July 03 2012 09:16 Rain.100 wrote: the maps are really the reason why so many korean terrans get owned by zerg. ofc every torunament wants to use huge maps for long macro games but terran doesnt have his shining moments in the late game - so they have to apply a lot of pressure in the early stages. but by using metropolis, daybreak, spacebear in every tournament terrans cant do what they have to do and lose. smaller maps and everything would be finde but no more insta 3base Obv the problem is that Zergs stronger econoym in early/midgame gives a much more powerful and speedier lategame. Terran lategame (endgame moreliek) is theoretically stronger but you cant ever get to it quick enough. | ||
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Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On July 03 2012 09:16 Rulker wrote: Without Patch 5-4 either way seems most likely remember MKP 5-2 and 4-3 DRG before patch, and DRG is a much better zerg than coca | ||
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MasterKang
United States1373 Posts
On July 03 2012 09:12 Crowned wrote: Inferior Zergs have been beating the top Terrans commonly since the queen buff so yes he is a real threat to win this series. yeah coca is such an inferior zerg. his zergling/baneling flanks were definitely stronger after that queen buff | ||
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zezamer
Finland5701 Posts
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