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On July 03 2012 09:06 Chantastic wrote:
He did really really well until him and Byun (GhostKing) got suspended for a year because of a "Match fixing" thing that happened. Before he got suspended, he had a really impressive run in MLG Anaheim 2011, and he was always looked at as someone who had a ton of potential.
Guess him and Byun spent a lot of their off time practicing rather than participating in tournaments.
Wasn't it 6 months ?
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On July 03 2012 07:48 theforsakenbro wrote:
youve got to be kidding me right now. lmao. mkp had easy opponents everytime. he first played liquid taeja who's 2nd weakest match up is tvt. then he played eg jyp who's worse match up is pvt. now he plays slayers coca who's horrible at zvt
Good jokes brah.
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Hey, hey, Coca hasn't won the series yet. But I agree he's perfectly capable of it, and should be in Code S too.
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I always remembered CoCa as that godly ZvP player with a ridiculous winrate (what was it, like over 90%?) but I never remembered his ZvT to be as strong. Then again, I guess staying at SlayerS gives you a whole lot of Terran players to practice against.
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On July 03 2012 09:06 Rulker wrote:
CoCa is better then MKP, regardless of the balance patch. Disregarding the fact that he lost in the only GSL qualifier he's been able to participate in since he was Temp Banned from GSL, his preformance and gameplay has been super strong, in Korean Weeklys (getting 2nd to Life) and Qualifying for OSL, and doing well in GSTL, and getting awesome results in TSL.
This post was hilarious.
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On July 03 2012 09:08 zezamer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2012 09:06 Chantastic wrote:
He did really really well until him and Byun (GhostKing) got suspended for a year because of a "Match fixing" thing that happened. Before he got suspended, he had a really impressive run in MLG Anaheim 2011, and he was always looked at as someone who had a ton of potential.
Guess him and Byun spent a lot of their off time practicing rather than participating in tournaments. Wasn't it 6 months ?
Whether or not he's right, it felt like a year T_T. Coca...
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On July 03 2012 09:08 Thinasy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2012 09:06 Rulker wrote:
CoCa is better then MKP, regardless of the balance patch. Disregarding the fact that he lost in the only GSL qualifier he's been able to participate in since he was Temp Banned from GSL, his preformance and gameplay has been super strong, in Korean Weeklys (getting 2nd to Life) and Qualifying for OSL, and doing well in GSTL, and getting awesome results in TSL. This post was hilarious.
I hope he 5-1's.
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On July 03 2012 09:07 opterown wrote:i vote: -remove atlantis spaceship -remove whirlwind -remove metropolis -remove cloud kingdom -add steppes of war Show nested quote +On July 03 2012 09:06 Rulker wrote:
CoCa is better then MKP, regardless of the balance patch. Disregarding the fact that he lost in the only GSL qualifier he's been able to participate in since he was Temp Banned from GSL, his preformance and gameplay has been super strong, in Korean Weeklys (getting 2nd to Life) and Qualifying for OSL, and doing well in GSTL, and getting awesome results in TSL. i doubt many consider coca better in absolute skill. it's hard to say where he is.
hehehe I think it would be pretty funny to see some of the old maps with the current meta and patch changes.
Anybody else wanna see them bring back Blistering Sands? No?
How about Desert Oasis?
....tumbleweed....
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On July 03 2012 09:06 Chantastic wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2012 09:05 Jockmcplop wrote:On July 03 2012 09:03 -_- wrote:
Is Coca on the same talent level as MKP? I haven't been following the scene very carefully lately. Is he a real threat to win this series? No he's just gonna win because *insert balance whine here* He did really really well until him and Byun (GhostKing) got suspended for a year because of a "Match fixing" thing that happened. Before he got suspended, he had a really impressive run in MLG Anaheim 2011, and he was always looked at as someone who had a ton of potential. Guess him and Byun spent a lot of their off time practicing rather than participating in tournaments.
It was Raleigh, took 2nd place after Bomber ^^
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On July 03 2012 09:07 Rulker wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2012 09:06 aznball123 wrote:
Of course he is, first OSL champion incoming.. lol kidding. But I still believe he is Code S material. No belief neccesary, his gameplay proves he's Code S level.
Even as a Coca fan, I have to admit that his play has been inconsistent. He has had great games, and not so great games.
Also, even though such a statistic is meaningless when matched against MKP, I would like to mention that Coca had a 100% winrate against Protoss in the GSL in 2011, when he was Code S for multiple seasons. He's good.
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On July 03 2012 09:08 Sitinte wrote:
I always remembered CoCa as that godly ZvP player with a ridiculous winrate (what was it, like over 90%?) but I never remembered his ZvT to be as strong. Then again, I guess staying at SlayerS gives you a whole lot of Terran players to practice against.
iirc he had a 100% match or series zvp winrate in GSL. However, this was mostly because he combined amazing mechanics with strange builds and styles, specifically stuff like Bane Busts and builds that denied the Protoss's third.
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On July 03 2012 09:09 Rulker wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2012 09:08 Thinasy wrote:On July 03 2012 09:06 Rulker wrote:
CoCa is better then MKP, regardless of the balance patch. Disregarding the fact that he lost in the only GSL qualifier he's been able to participate in since he was Temp Banned from GSL, his preformance and gameplay has been super strong, in Korean Weeklys (getting 2nd to Life) and Qualifying for OSL, and doing well in GSTL, and getting awesome results in TSL. This post was hilarious. I hope he 5-1's.
he'll 5-3
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I think MKP shouldve thrown down PDDs instead of waiting for HSM to finish. He lost so many vikings and ravens by doing so, and then started to win the air battles when he laid down a single PDD despite having almost no vikings left at that point.
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On July 03 2012 09:10 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2012 09:07 Rulker wrote:On July 03 2012 09:06 aznball123 wrote:
Of course he is, first OSL champion incoming.. lol kidding. But I still believe he is Code S material. No belief neccesary, his gameplay proves he's Code S level. Even as a Coca fan, I have to admit that his play has been inconsistent. He has had great games, and not so great games. Also, even though such a statistic is meaningless when matched against MKP, I would like to mention that Coca had a 100% winrate against Protoss in the GSL in 2011, when he was Code S for multiple seasons. He's good.
Oz had near 100% PvP for a while, too :p haha
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On July 03 2012 09:09 Rulker wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2012 09:08 Thinasy wrote:On July 03 2012 09:06 Rulker wrote:
CoCa is better then MKP, regardless of the balance patch. Disregarding the fact that he lost in the only GSL qualifier he's been able to participate in since he was Temp Banned from GSL, his preformance and gameplay has been super strong, in Korean Weeklys (getting 2nd to Life) and Qualifying for OSL, and doing well in GSTL, and getting awesome results in TSL. This post was hilarious. I hope he 5-1's.
1 bo series = better player. Nice.
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On July 03 2012 09:08 zezamer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2012 09:06 Chantastic wrote:
He did really really well until him and Byun (GhostKing) got suspended for a year because of a "Match fixing" thing that happened. Before he got suspended, he had a really impressive run in MLG Anaheim 2011, and he was always looked at as someone who had a ton of potential.
Guess him and Byun spent a lot of their off time practicing rather than participating in tournaments. Wasn't it 6 months ?
Ah, I looked it up, the coaches of both parties involved said whenever both players had the right "mentality" again. Source here. But it's been about 8ish months, so quite a long time.
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On July 03 2012 09:10 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2012 09:09 Rulker wrote:On July 03 2012 09:08 Thinasy wrote:On July 03 2012 09:06 Rulker wrote:
CoCa is better then MKP, regardless of the balance patch. Disregarding the fact that he lost in the only GSL qualifier he's been able to participate in since he was Temp Banned from GSL, his preformance and gameplay has been super strong, in Korean Weeklys (getting 2nd to Life) and Qualifying for OSL, and doing well in GSTL, and getting awesome results in TSL. This post was hilarious. I hope he 5-1's. he'll 5-3
I think with the balance as it is, 5-2 or 5-1, without balance as it is, it would be 5-3 at least if not MKP winning 5-3 5-2.
However with Coca ZvT as is and ZvT in general as is I'm staying with 5-2 or 5-1, happy to eat my words though.
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On July 03 2012 09:10 Rulker wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2012 09:08 Sitinte wrote:
I always remembered CoCa as that godly ZvP player with a ridiculous winrate (what was it, like over 90%?) but I never remembered his ZvT to be as strong. Then again, I guess staying at SlayerS gives you a whole lot of Terran players to practice against. iirc he had a 100% match or series zvp winrate in GSL. However, this was mostly because he combined amazing mechanics with strange builds and styles, specifically stuff like Bane Busts and builds that denied the Protoss's third.
What I remember most was the mass overseer style to keep P from reinforcing xD
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On July 03 2012 09:03 -_- wrote:
Is Coca on the same talent level as MKP? I haven't been following the scene very carefully lately. Is he a real threat to win this series?
Inferior Zergs have been beating the top Terrans commonly since the queen buff so yes he is a real threat to win this series.
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