The Evil Geniuses Master’s Cup Series League Finals Weekend will feature 4 teams in a double elimination format with each team matchup containing at least four best of three games between two teams.
Results SlayerS vs. Complexity
Saturday, Jun 30 7:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Miya <GSL Metropolis> NaDa NaDa was an active member for coL at the time in which the match was played, so the final result will stand. + Show Spoiler +
MaNa <SV Sanshorn Mist> aLive MaNa <GSL Crossfire> aLive MaNa <GSL Entombed Valley> aLive 2-1
MorroW <GSL Daybreak> ToD MorroW was an active member for mouz during the time in which the match was played, so the final result will stand. + Show Spoiler +
MorroW <GSL Daybreak> ToD MorroW <ESV Ohana> ToD MorroW <ESV Sanshorn Mist> ToD 1-2
Miya <GSL Dual Sight> MorroW MorroW was an active member for mouz during the time in which the match was played, so the final result will stand. + Show Spoiler +
MMA vs GanZi and MaNa vs aLive are pretty much the matches of the night on paper. Mouz vs Fnatic will be close, CoL vs Slayers won't be that close unless of a breakout performance by GanZi and/or Killer. But the chances of Killer beating Puzzle is like 7,5%
Are finals these season having losers bracket? Also i am wondering if the morrows performance in those matches affected his ewentual leaving of the moussports...we will see.
Since slayers strategy coach left Slayers MMA has been so shit. I wasnt aware that a strategy coach could do so much for a player I doubt we will see MMA in the top of the sc2 scene unless ofcourse they get there old strategy coach back
that was such a bad 1/1/1 by mma. 4 marine drop, 3 hellion run by, 1 cloakless banshee.... should've just gone standard banshee into siege tank or just quick siege tank marines.
arent the skulls and blizzcon thing something that the user can choose for his own buildings? once you get enough achievement points, you can change "skins."
On July 01 2012 05:32 dAPhREAk wrote: arent the skulls and blizzcon thing something that the user can choose for his own buildings? once you get enough achievement points, you can change "skins."
On July 01 2012 05:48 Fusilero wrote: Poor defeats from MMA, I honestly wonder if slayers should send MMA home like skt did with bisu to get himself together.
Yes, losing one best of 3 in a matchup notorious for volatile early game 1-2 definitely calls for sending a player home.
On July 01 2012 05:48 Fusilero wrote: Poor defeats from MMA, I honestly wonder if slayers should send MMA home like skt did with bisu to get himself together.
Yes, losing one best of 3 in a matchup notorious for volatile early game 1-2 definitely calls for sending a player home.
I think the main problem is that MMA is expected to be a TvT expert and beat Ganzi, when he ended up losing in some pretty embarrasing fashion. I do agree that MMA just might need to take a break from the scene a bit, and just rest, because he is slumping quite hard recently.
On July 01 2012 05:48 Fusilero wrote: Poor defeats from MMA, I honestly wonder if slayers should send MMA home like skt did with bisu to get himself together.
I don't think he's in that big a slump just yet, he did 2-0 his Code A match so that's something, and even then his next match is HerO who there's no shame in losing against.
I think he's just in a situation where he needs to string some wins together to get his swag back.
On July 01 2012 05:48 Fusilero wrote: Poor defeats from MMA, I honestly wonder if slayers should send MMA home like skt did with bisu to get himself together.
Yes, losing one best of 3 in a matchup notorious for volatile early game 1-2 definitely calls for sending a player home.
I think the main problem is that MMA is expected to be a TvT expert and beat Ganzi, when he ended up losing in some pretty embarrasing fashion. I do agree that MMA just might need to take a break from the scene a bit, and just rest, because he is slumping quite hard recently.
First of all, he's the TvZ expert, not TvT. Second, Ganzi is a Code S level player, it's not actually that surprising that he won. Third, 2-1 is not embarassing fashion. Fourth, what in the fuck are you talking about. You don't send players home after they lose one series...
SlayerS is in some trouble, especially with MMA (Who is pretty good at TvT) and Puzzle (PvP specialist) losing to coL, who honestly aren't exactly the most dominant team.
On July 01 2012 06:20 PhoenixVoid wrote: SlayerS is in some trouble, especially with MMA (Who is pretty good at TvT) and Puzzle (PvP specialist) losing to coL, who honestly aren't exactly the most dominant team.
On July 01 2012 06:20 PhoenixVoid wrote: SlayerS is in some trouble, especially with MMA (Who is pretty good at TvT) and Puzzle (PvP specialist) losing to coL, who honestly aren't exactly the most dominant team.
Puzzle isn't a PvP specialist...
His best MU WLR-wise is in PvP internationally at 77%, compared to his 68% PvZ and 60% PvT, so in some ways, his PvP is at least his best MU.
On July 01 2012 05:48 Fusilero wrote: Poor defeats from MMA, I honestly wonder if slayers should send MMA home like skt did with bisu to get himself together.
Yes, losing one best of 3 in a matchup notorious for volatile early game 1-2 definitely calls for sending a player home.
I think the main problem is that MMA is expected to be a TvT expert and beat Ganzi, when he ended up losing in some pretty embarrasing fashion. I do agree that MMA just might need to take a break from the scene a bit, and just rest, because he is slumping quite hard recently.
First of all, he's the TvZ expert, not TvT. Second, Ganzi is a Code S level player, it's not actually that surprising that he won. Third, 2-1 is not embarassing fashion. Fourth, what in the fuck are you talking about. You don't send players home after they lose one series...
Actually Ganzi is not a Code s level player anymore he is in really bad shape. His last 2 tournaments he went dead last in his groups. Redbull lan 0-3: losing to Stephano,Illusion and Violet. MLG Anahaim. went 0-5 losing well to everyone
Ganzi is not very good atm but then again niether is MMA since he lost his strategy coach
On July 01 2012 06:20 PhoenixVoid wrote: SlayerS is in some trouble, especially with MMA (Who is pretty good at TvT) and Puzzle (PvP specialist) losing to coL, who honestly aren't exactly the most dominant team.
Ryung seems to be on fire aha ryung doesnt play on this match, why ?
On July 01 2012 06:20 PhoenixVoid wrote: SlayerS is in some trouble, especially with MMA (Who is pretty good at TvT) and Puzzle (PvP specialist) losing to coL, who honestly aren't exactly the most dominant team.
Ryung seems to be on fire
In this current tournament at least they seem to be struggling, not overall.....
On July 01 2012 05:48 Fusilero wrote: Poor defeats from MMA, I honestly wonder if slayers should send MMA home like skt did with bisu to get himself together.
Yes, losing one best of 3 in a matchup notorious for volatile early game 1-2 definitely calls for sending a player home.
I think the main problem is that MMA is expected to be a TvT expert and beat Ganzi, when he ended up losing in some pretty embarrasing fashion. I do agree that MMA just might need to take a break from the scene a bit, and just rest, because he is slumping quite hard recently.
First of all, he's the TvZ expert, not TvT. Second, Ganzi is a Code S level player, it's not actually that surprising that he won. Third, 2-1 is not embarassing fashion. Fourth, what in the fuck are you talking about. You don't send players home after they lose one series...
Actually Ganzi is not a Code s level player anymore he is in really bad shape. His last 2 tournaments he went dead last in his groups. Redbull lan 0-3: losing to Stephano,Illusion and Violet. MLG Anahaim. went 0-5 losing well to everyone
Ganzi is not very good atm but then again niether is MMA since he lost his strategy coach
Ganzi has been looking a lot better since hes been back in korea training
I don't understand why zergs just dont pull 6-7 drones instead of letting those bunkers go up. they have to transfer them to the second hatch anyways. so stupid. reminds me of leenock. this is so easy to shut down.
On July 01 2012 06:47 CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr wrote: honestly i dont like to whine, its not all that interesting but i just saw 4 queens beating 16 rines with combat shield.
Hm, seems really true what Doa said. When he asked Cella how they prepared for all the online teamleagues he answered: "We don't really do anything. We just play it as it comes. Kinda sad tbh :/
On July 01 2012 06:53 Serinox wrote: Hm, seems really true what Doa said. When he asked Cella how they prepared for all the online teamleagues he answered: "We don't really do anything. We just play it as it comes. Kinda sad tbh :/
On July 01 2012 06:53 Serinox wrote: Hm, seems really true what Doa said. When he asked Cella how they prepared for all the online teamleagues he answered: "We don't really do anything. We just play it as it comes. Kinda sad tbh :/
Well back when they had the help of coach ryu they would do research on the other team, and predict what players would come out on what maps, i remember watching miya vs aLive and it turned out to be a snipe from slayers etc..
On July 01 2012 06:56 PhoenixVoid wrote: And that is why you have to at least scout which tech path that Zerg is going.
If there is any balance whine from that game I will punch a wall.
No balance whine, just stating why Heart should have just bothered to have scanned or at least checked the army composition of CoCa instead of blindly going Marauders when Brood Lords were coming.
On July 01 2012 05:48 Fusilero wrote: Poor defeats from MMA, I honestly wonder if slayers should send MMA home like skt did with bisu to get himself together.
Yes, losing one best of 3 in a matchup notorious for volatile early game 1-2 definitely calls for sending a player home.
I think the main problem is that MMA is expected to be a TvT expert and beat Ganzi, when he ended up losing in some pretty embarrasing fashion. I do agree that MMA just might need to take a break from the scene a bit, and just rest, because he is slumping quite hard recently.
First of all, he's the TvZ expert, not TvT. Second, Ganzi is a Code S level player, it's not actually that surprising that he won. Third, 2-1 is not embarassing fashion. Fourth, what in the fuck are you talking about. You don't send players home after they lose one series...
Actually Ganzi is not a Code s level player anymore he is in really bad shape. His last 2 tournaments he went dead last in his groups. Redbull lan 0-3: losing to Stephano,Illusion and Violet. MLG Anahaim. went 0-5 losing well to everyone
Ganzi is not very good atm but then again niether is MMA since he lost his strategy coach
Doing badly in a couple tournaments doesn't mean your skill level has deteriorated by eons. You still have all the same aspects of skill that you previously had, a few results don't negate that.... ever. and if mma's not very good atm how'd he do this http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/StarsWar_7/Korean_Qualifier
On July 01 2012 07:15 EleanorRIgby wrote: damn why sang ho he hasn't been any good in awhile
Take a look at TLPD when you get a chance, I think GanZi would have been a more solid choice but recently, Killer is easily the better player.
not sure what you are seeing in TLPD to support this claim that Killer is doing better recently, even with Ganzi's slump
I don't either, and idk why. He's recently been dominating online cups and qualifiers against a Korean playerbase, tbh I don't have time right now to figure out which events I'm trying to reference but he's been doing quite well recently.
On July 01 2012 08:07 blamekilly wrote: I blame MMA and Puzzle's terrible performance for this loss.
well, generally the people who lose the games are the ones who deserve the blame
That's crazy talk. Blame the winners. Had they won MORE convincingly, they would've demoralized their opponents and then the losing player's team might have just forfeited in shame.
Ugh, I don't know why, but I get angry by listening to iNcontroL today. Normally it works ok with him, but today... Hm, I think I'll watch mute from now on.
Anyway, I hope Mouz can take this, but it will be a tough battle. A 0-4 stomp would sadly not be surprising
On July 01 2012 09:06 Champloo wrote: Just bad play by Hasu these last few weeks. Has he won a single broadcasted game after his loss to Socke in the WCS?
He made it to a TSL qualifier final, lost 0-3 against ret, but till then it was a nice run. Still I agree Hasu has to step it up again.
On July 01 2012 09:19 Ethi wrote: i don't like incontrols commentating. calling eg better than mouz and not beeing at their own finals feels quite awkward.
On July 01 2012 09:19 Ethi wrote: i don't like incontrols commentating. calling eg better than mouz and not beeing at their own finals feels quite awkward.
Yeah got no idea why he said that.
It's tough to decide if both of you are trolling, or if you don't realize it was incontrol that was trolling with the comment since Thorzain is now with EG?
On July 01 2012 09:19 Ethi wrote: i don't like incontrols commentating. calling eg better than mouz and not beeing at their own finals feels quite awkward.
EG is world's better than Mouz... Are you telling me JYP/Huk/Puma/idra can't beat them??
Incontrol is one of my fav casters. He will never say he's better than any korean unless he knows it. he's modest and not cocky like other players.
On July 01 2012 09:19 Ethi wrote: i don't like incontrols commentating. calling eg better than mouz and not beeing at their own finals feels quite awkward.
EG is world's better than Mouz... Are you telling me JYP/Huk/Puma/idra can't beat them??
Incontrol is one of my fav casters. He will never say he's better than any korean unless he knows it. he's modest and not cocky like other players.
You really have no idea what you are talking about.....
It's kind of impolite to say EG is better than mouz in this context (while casting a series of mouz playing, in a tournament hosted by EG). Not very surprising Incontrol would say it though, he never had any class to begin with.
On July 01 2012 09:28 iNcontroL wrote: Oh calm down children jesus
On July 01 2012 09:43 Toadvine wrote: It's kind of impolite to say EG is better than mouz in this context (while casting a series of mouz playing, in a tournament hosted by EG). Not very surprising Incontrol would say it though, he never had any class to begin with.
On July 01 2012 09:43 Toadvine wrote: It's kind of impolite to say EG is better than mouz in this context (while casting a series of mouz playing, in a tournament hosted by EG). Not very surprising Incontrol would say it though, he never had any class to begin with.
On July 01 2012 09:28 iNcontroL wrote: Oh calm down children jesus
Point in case.
I'm not bashing... but seems like the majority of people that hate Incontrol... are European. They don't get our humor or sarcastic comments.
Dont think it has anything to do with that, im european and think hes awesome, its just people wanting to hate for no good reason.
even if I think eg is better than mouz the way I said it was sarcastic AS AN EG PLAYER/CONTRACTED PERSON.. it wasn't like I was making a case for our supremecy or something jesus lol
Keep the angst to the sotg thread plz.. if you actually don't like my casting keep it constructive otherwise I would remind you TL has a no caster bashing rule in place !! ! ! ! also respect your elders <-- me
On July 01 2012 09:43 Toadvine wrote: It's kind of impolite to say EG is better than mouz in this context (while casting a series of mouz playing, in a tournament hosted by EG). Not very surprising Incontrol would say it though, he never had any class to begin with.
On July 01 2012 09:28 iNcontroL wrote: Oh calm down children jesus
Point in case.
I'm not bashing... but seems like the majority of people that hate Incontrol... are European. They don't get our humor or sarcastic comments.
I don't hate Incontrol, I just think he's a bit obnoxious and thoughtless. And, you could be right about the cultural difference between US and EU, but I think an age difference is more likely to be the cause. Europe is much more diverse than the States, would be strange if all Europeans had similar reactions to this kind of thing.
On July 01 2012 09:43 Toadvine wrote: It's kind of impolite to say EG is better than mouz in this context (while casting a series of mouz playing, in a tournament hosted by EG). Not very surprising Incontrol would say it though, he never had any class to begin with.
On July 01 2012 09:28 iNcontroL wrote: Oh calm down children jesus
Point in case.
FFS dude you take everything too seriously. A couple months ago InC and DeMu casted an entire fucking night like EG was the best team in the world sarcastically. It was one of the funniest fucking casts I've ever seen. IT WAS SARCASTIC. So was this.
Not understanding it in text is one thing but in context and spoken? Dafuq?
On July 01 2012 09:53 iNcontroL wrote: even if I think eg is better than mouz the way I said it was sarcastic AS AN EG PLAYER/CONTRACTED PERSON.. it wasn't like I was making a case for our supremecy or something jesus lol
Keep the angst to the sotg thread plz.. if you actually don't like my casting keep it constructive otherwise I would remind you TL has a no caster bashing rule in place !! ! ! ! also respect your elders <-- me
Well EG is better than Mouz so I don't see why anyone would get upset over things here.
On July 01 2012 09:43 Toadvine wrote: It's kind of impolite to say EG is better than mouz in this context (while casting a series of mouz playing, in a tournament hosted by EG). Not very surprising Incontrol would say it though, he never had any class to begin with.
On July 01 2012 09:28 iNcontroL wrote: Oh calm down children jesus
Point in case.
I'm not bashing... but seems like the majority of people that hate Incontrol... are European. They don't get our humor or sarcastic comments.
How could anyone hate incontrol????? whyyyy (im so tired, but alive-mana playing, have to see this)
On July 01 2012 09:53 iNcontroL wrote: even if I think eg is better than mouz the way I said it was sarcastic AS AN EG PLAYER/CONTRACTED PERSON.. it wasn't like I was making a case for our supremecy or something jesus lol
Keep the angst to the sotg thread plz.. if you actually don't like my casting keep it constructive otherwise I would remind you TL has a no caster bashing rule in place !! ! ! ! also respect your elders <-- me
dw us normal people understood what you meant, nice casting, loved it
On July 01 2012 09:53 iNcontroL wrote: even if I think eg is better than mouz the way I said it was sarcastic AS AN EG PLAYER/CONTRACTED PERSON.. it wasn't like I was making a case for our supremecy or something jesus lol
Keep the angst to the sotg thread plz.. if you actually don't like my casting keep it constructive otherwise I would remind you TL has a no caster bashing rule in place !! ! ! ! also respect your elders <-- me
Because you are such a respectable person right...
every now and then perhaps after a big worker harass or before a big fight can you bring up that shift control army supply thing or the workers lost tab
it's nice to have some numbers before an engagement / after worker harass
On July 01 2012 09:53 iNcontroL wrote: even if I think eg is better than mouz the way I said it was sarcastic AS AN EG PLAYER/CONTRACTED PERSON.. it wasn't like I was making a case for our supremecy or something jesus lol
Keep the angst to the sotg thread plz.. if you actually don't like my casting keep it constructive otherwise I would remind you TL has a no caster bashing rule in place !! ! ! ! also respect your elders <-- me
Because you are such a respectable person right...
I look forward to you giving detailed reasons as to why he isn't.
On July 01 2012 10:38 Noocta wrote: I don't understand marine banshee tank push anymore. It's like, the unupgraded marines are carrying the useless tanks more than anything.
Seemed like sloppy positioning x.x but i could see all so meh..
On July 01 2012 10:38 Noocta wrote: I don't understand marine banshee tank push anymore. It's like, the unupgraded marines are carrying the useless tanks more than anything.
Seemed like sloppy positioning x.x but i could see all so meh..
Just seems like forever since that strat won a game in an official match.
On July 01 2012 10:38 Noocta wrote: I don't understand marine banshee tank push anymore. It's like, the unupgraded marines are carrying the useless tanks more than anything.
If you don't have tanks, you'll just be forcefielded.
On July 01 2012 10:39 Denzil wrote: can anyone explain what the difference between 1-1-1s these days are and 1-1-1s a few months ago when protoss claimed it was impossible?
whats changed and what have protoss improved on?
They gave the immortal +1 range, so it is now much better at killing tanks.
On July 01 2012 10:39 Denzil wrote: can anyone explain what the difference between 1-1-1s these days are and 1-1-1s a few months ago when protoss claimed it was impossible?
whats changed and what have protoss improved on?
Maps have changed. Protoss players just got more comfortable with the technicalities of defending the push. It's still pretty good though, Terrans win with it more often than not. Just not good enough to be the default TvP strategy.
protoss also started opening 1 gate expand or nexus first almost exclusively.. these are the makings of a 1-1-1 counter. In the past P players rotated in robo openings, 3 gate expand , 3 gate robo etc..
On July 01 2012 10:38 Noocta wrote: I don't understand marine banshee tank push anymore. It's like, the unupgraded marines are carrying the useless tanks more than anything.
Seemed like sloppy positioning x.x but i could see all so meh..
Just seems like forever since that strat won a game in an official match.
Does great in diamond tho :D, really need to max on tank aoe to get stuff down quick, flank and the zealots engaging into the bio ball really seemed to negate any usefulness the tanks normally would do o.o
edit: stack the aoe that is o.o spreading just makes stuff live longer
On July 01 2012 10:43 iNcontroL wrote: protoss also started opening 1 gate expand or nexus first almost exclusively.. these are the makings of a 1-1-1 counter. In the past P players rotated in robo openings, 3 gate expand , 3 gate robo etc..
I don't think that's true. Protoss players used 1 gate expo in PvT during the golden age of 111.
Imo, it's more about the larger maps and just having more experience against it.
On July 01 2012 10:43 iNcontroL wrote: protoss also started opening 1 gate expand or nexus first almost exclusively.. these are the makings of a 1-1-1 counter. In the past P players rotated in robo openings, 3 gate expand , 3 gate robo etc..
I don't think that's true. Protoss players used 1 gate expo in PvT during the golden age of 111.
Imo, it's more about the larger maps and just having more experience against it.
its a bit of both. protoss players are learning to drop expos much earlier while still saying safe which inturn lets your economy kick in before / as the push comes . and larger rush distance definately helps because vs 111 every second counts
On July 01 2012 09:53 iNcontroL wrote: even if I think eg is better than mouz the way I said it was sarcastic AS AN EG PLAYER/CONTRACTED PERSON.. it wasn't like I was making a case for our supremecy or something jesus lol
Keep the angst to the sotg thread plz.. if you actually don't like my casting keep it constructive otherwise I would remind you TL has a no caster bashing rule in place !! ! ! ! also respect your elders <-- me
Well EG is better than Mouz so I don't see why anyone would get upset over things here.
Because this is during a Mouz game. In EG's own tournament. In the playoffs that EG failed to qualify for.
I didn't catch the statement so I'm not sure if he was being sarcastic or asinine but in general that kind of a statement would be out of place in a cast like this.
On a related note, Alive's play this series makes me wonder whether a gasless expand should really be the standard TvP build. Maybe Terran players should approach the matchup the same way they used to approach TvZ - try to scare the Protoss and force them to prepare for a wide variety of attacks which may or may not be coming. I wonder how effective it would be if Terrans would open with gas every single game, get a reactor on their first rax, and proceed from there - either 2 rax, some version of 1/1/1, or pulling scvs off gas and an in-base CC. With proper scouting denial, it is literally impossible for Protoss to tell the difference between these without building a Robo, which they may want to delay (because of 2 rax).
I know that confirming a gasless expand early on just prompts me to chronoboost probes and upgrades forever behind 4 sentries and 2 zealots. I wonder if the economic gain from the gasless expand is worth letting me do that.
On July 01 2012 09:53 iNcontroL wrote: even if I think eg is better than mouz the way I said it was sarcastic AS AN EG PLAYER/CONTRACTED PERSON.. it wasn't like I was making a case for our supremecy or something jesus lol
Keep the angst to the sotg thread plz.. if you actually don't like my casting keep it constructive otherwise I would remind you TL has a no caster bashing rule in place !! ! ! ! also respect your elders <-- me
Well EG is better than Mouz so I don't see why anyone would get upset over things here.
Because this is during a Mouz game. In EG's own tournament. In the playoffs that EG failed to qualify for.
I didn't catch the statement so I'm not sure if he was being sarcastic or asinine but in general that kind of a statement would be out of place in a cast like this.
Yes sir, joking around and having fun have no place in e-sports!
Incontrol you would do yourself a huge favor to stop defending everything you say or do on these forums, its not gonna make a difference. be who you are and thats it.
On July 01 2012 09:53 iNcontroL wrote: even if I think eg is better than mouz the way I said it was sarcastic AS AN EG PLAYER/CONTRACTED PERSON.. it wasn't like I was making a case for our supremecy or something jesus lol
Keep the angst to the sotg thread plz.. if you actually don't like my casting keep it constructive otherwise I would remind you TL has a no caster bashing rule in place !! ! ! ! also respect your elders <-- me
Well EG is better than Mouz so I don't see why anyone would get upset over things here.
Because this is during a Mouz game. In EG's own tournament. In the playoffs that EG failed to qualify for.
I didn't catch the statement so I'm not sure if he was being sarcastic or asinine but in general that kind of a statement would be out of place in a cast like this.
Yes sir, joking around and having fun have no place in e-sports!
I clearly said I was referring to the statement and not the context because I didn't hear how inControl said. My post was specifically for the person I was quoting.
On July 01 2012 11:02 mjnbowlgod wrote: Incontrol you would do yourself a huge favor to stop defending everything you say or do on these forums, its not gonna make a difference. be who you are and thats it.
Thx you... Incontrol should stop trying to please everyone. There's people who hate the Queen and the Pope. People will hate no matter what you do.
People diss MVP... the best player in the world... it's really messed up... 4 time GSL winner and people hate him?
On July 01 2012 09:53 iNcontroL wrote: even if I think eg is better than mouz the way I said it was sarcastic AS AN EG PLAYER/CONTRACTED PERSON.. it wasn't like I was making a case for our supremecy or something jesus lol
Keep the angst to the sotg thread plz.. if you actually don't like my casting keep it constructive otherwise I would remind you TL has a no caster bashing rule in place !! ! ! ! also respect your elders <-- me
Well EG is better than Mouz so I don't see why anyone would get upset over things here.
Because this is during a Mouz game. In EG's own tournament. In the playoffs that EG failed to qualify for.
I didn't catch the statement so I'm not sure if he was being sarcastic or asinine but in general that kind of a statement would be out of place in a cast like this.
Lol the statement was in absolute jest and if someone got offended they need to check their ears or their brain.
On July 01 2012 09:53 iNcontroL wrote: even if I think eg is better than mouz the way I said it was sarcastic AS AN EG PLAYER/CONTRACTED PERSON.. it wasn't like I was making a case for our supremecy or something jesus lol
Keep the angst to the sotg thread plz.. if you actually don't like my casting keep it constructive otherwise I would remind you TL has a no caster bashing rule in place !! ! ! ! also respect your elders <-- me
Well EG is better than Mouz so I don't see why anyone would get upset over things here.
Because this is during a Mouz game. In EG's own tournament. In the playoffs that EG failed to qualify for.
I didn't catch the statement so I'm not sure if he was being sarcastic or asinine but in general that kind of a statement would be out of place in a cast like this.
Yes sir, joking around and having fun have no place in e-sports!
I clearly said I was referring to the statement and not the context because I didn't hear how inControl said. My post was specifically for the person I was quoting.
Even the statement alone is silly, he works for one team, he is obviously biased and of course he will say that. Its like asking a pepsi employee if he likes coke.
Watching this while pinging is so freaking intense. The shapes, the colors and the noises are like an orgasm of the ears and eyes. Hard to focus on the commentators though.
On July 01 2012 11:16 Denzil wrote: Thats so painful to watch
almost as bad as watching IdrA lose to it in Code A TT
since when was Idra in Code A??
he got a free ticket to Code S and lost and then faced Avenge? in code A where he did a glorious response to the immortal sentry all in but just missed his timing and got mauled
On July 01 2012 09:53 iNcontroL wrote: even if I think eg is better than mouz the way I said it was sarcastic AS AN EG PLAYER/CONTRACTED PERSON.. it wasn't like I was making a case for our supremecy or something jesus lol
Keep the angst to the sotg thread plz.. if you actually don't like my casting keep it constructive otherwise I would remind you TL has a no caster bashing rule in place !! ! ! ! also respect your elders <-- me
Well EG is better than Mouz so I don't see why anyone would get upset over things here.
Because this is during a Mouz game. In EG's own tournament. In the playoffs that EG failed to qualify for.
I didn't catch the statement so I'm not sure if he was being sarcastic or asinine but in general that kind of a statement would be out of place in a cast like this.
Yes sir, joking around and having fun have no place in e-sports!
I clearly said I was referring to the statement and not the context because I didn't hear how inControl said. My post was specifically for the person I was quoting.
if you didnt hear it and dont know the context/tone, why the FUCK are you posting about it?
On July 01 2012 11:30 blade55555 wrote: Wow not to impressed with morrows play this game not sure what he was thinking xd
well, just 2-3 bad decisions. bad ling movement, couldve prly bought more time for the basetrade. def. needed more and earlier spines (prly less drones). the 5 idle mutas and that ling engagement where he killed prly 1 unit, but lost a bunch of lings only made it worse. i think its possible to deal with it going for ling/muta/spine, but its def. not easy.
On July 01 2012 11:30 blade55555 wrote: Wow not to impressed with morrows play this game not sure what he was thinking xd
seriously, why base trade? all he had to do was throw everything at tod's army and kill the stalkers as quickly as possible, then just laugh as everything else dies.
On July 01 2012 11:16 Denzil wrote: Thats so painful to watch
almost as bad as watching IdrA lose to it in Code A TT
since when was Idra in Code A??
he got a free ticket to Code S and lost and then faced Avenge? in code A where he did a glorious response to the immortal sentry all in but just missed his timing and got mauled
On July 01 2012 09:53 iNcontroL wrote: even if I think eg is better than mouz the way I said it was sarcastic AS AN EG PLAYER/CONTRACTED PERSON.. it wasn't like I was making a case for our supremecy or something jesus lol
Keep the angst to the sotg thread plz.. if you actually don't like my casting keep it constructive otherwise I would remind you TL has a no caster bashing rule in place !! ! ! ! also respect your elders <-- me
Well EG is better than Mouz so I don't see why anyone would get upset over things here.
Because this is during a Mouz game. In EG's own tournament. In the playoffs that EG failed to qualify for.
I didn't catch the statement so I'm not sure if he was being sarcastic or asinine but in general that kind of a statement would be out of place in a cast like this.
Yes sir, joking around and having fun have no place in e-sports!
I clearly said I was referring to the statement and not the context because I didn't hear how inControl said. My post was specifically for the person I was quoting.
if you didnt hear it and dont know the context/tone, why the FUCK are you posting about it?
Are you fucking kidding me? Do you even bother reading the posts you respond to?
The person I was responding to asked why anyone get upset about inControl saying EG is better than Mouz since it's true(in his opinion), this is without context of whether or not it was a joke, a sarcastic remark, or a genuinely asinine comment. I was explaining specifically why people wouldn't like this in a general sense. This has everything to do with his post and little to do with the way inControl said what he said on stream.
On July 01 2012 12:13 Mordiford wrote: Is this Sleep or Coca? inControl keeps saying Sleep and no one is correcting him, but the overlay still says Coca.
Sleep hasn't been on Slayers for nearing a year, just a mistake by Inc
On July 01 2012 12:13 Mordiford wrote: Is this Sleep or Coca? inControl keeps saying Sleep and no one is correcting him, but the overlay still says Coca.
On July 01 2012 12:13 Mordiford wrote: Is this Sleep or Coca? inControl keeps saying Sleep and no one is correcting him, but the overlay still says Coca.
It is CoCa, incontrol is just messing up who it is. Glad he finally realized his mistake though.
So, with this being called day 1, and the losers of the first two matches already playing eachother, I assume we'll get the winners finals and the grand finals tomorrow (and ofcourse the 3&4th place match)? Or is this the 3 & 4th placement match and will there only be the finals tomorrow? If there's a winners vs losers bracket finals, does the losers bracket finalist need to win 2 consecutive series?
At any rate, good tournament, kinda sad about the at this point rather euro unfriendly times though, and was hoping to see more Incontrol Idra casting tt.
On July 01 2012 12:47 Denzil wrote: how did coca lose this?
Not droning at all. Not sure why he killed the third, then kept making units. He should have droned his third and then made more units. Confused at his decision making there :/
Coca was in no position to attack after killing his opponent's 3rd and getting his own up.... He had no infestors so why didn't he turtle up a little more? I don't think Coca will get back to Code S caliber skill.
On July 01 2012 12:28 Scootaloo wrote: So, with this being called day 1, and the losers of the first two matches already playing eachother, I assume we'll get the winners finals and the grand finals tomorrow (and ofcourse the 3&4th place match)? Or is this the 3 & 4th placement match and will there only be the finals tomorrow? If there's a winners vs losers bracket finals, does the losers bracket finalist need to win 2 consecutive series?
At any rate, good tournament, kinda sad about the at this point rather euro unfriendly times though, and was hoping to see more Incontrol Idra casting tt.
Rooting for Slayers and Mouz, sad to see 'em get beat, then realized this was double elimination. So while they play each other... may the better team win
On July 01 2012 13:07 HolyArrow wrote: Wow, absolutely horrible control from Puzzle there. Some of the worst I've seen in a long time -_-
Pretty sure that was just better control by hasu than poor control by puzzle
I feel like Hasu definitely took advantage of the situation as much as he could and subsequently took a well-deserved win, but it was completely ridiculous that Puzzle just 1a'd his entire army to deal with 5 Zealots with his opponent's entire army waiting right outside. Puzzle basically let his immortals sit there and do nothing while the rest of his army all died, then proceeded to fly his Phoenixes right over Hasu's stalkers (not that it would have made a difference at that point). There were several mistakes on Puzzle's that I feel were incredibly basic things.
I still don't understand the thought process of sending your whole army for a couple zealots when your enemy has a bunch of units right under outside your ramp.
Puzzle has this really bad habit of just 1aing his entire army into his opponents in a PvP without microing his stalkers or focus-firing... He did a good job at least of delaying Hasu's push and buying time for his better economy to kick in
On July 01 2012 13:28 TheDougler wrote: Who is this fucking BRILLIANT Canadian caster?
I fucking LOVE this guy
Azael, pretty sure he's on the EG WoW team, but he's pretty good at SC2. Was brought into to cast the MCSL after they let Orb go. I really enjoy his casting, he's been great all season.
On July 01 2012 15:14 iNcontroL wrote: Sorry for poor casting at the end. I can't begin to tell you how hard 12 hours of casting is
No need to apologize there was nothing wrong with it. I was more worried about the sound guy going full NASL in the end climax but luckily it got fixed.
I wonder if the second game of MMA vs MaNa could have gone different if MMA didn't land his vikings...I missed everything after that though, so what happened in game 3? I'm glad SlayerS goes through!
On July 01 2012 09:19 Ethi wrote: i don't like incontrols commentating. calling eg better than mouz and not beeing at their own finals feels quite awkward.
EG is world's better than Mouz... Are you telling me JYP/Huk/Puma/idra can't beat them??
So, Mousesports has 2 major tournament wins this year, how many does EG have...?
Not to mention that Mouz does a lot better in teamleagues than EG.
On July 01 2012 09:53 iNcontroL wrote: even if I think eg is better than mouz the way I said it was sarcastic AS AN EG PLAYER/CONTRACTED PERSON.. it wasn't like I was making a case for our supremecy or something jesus lol
Keep the angst to the sotg thread plz.. if you actually don't like my casting keep it constructive otherwise I would remind you TL has a no caster bashing rule in place !! ! ! ! also respect your elders <-- me
Let me say it differently: I totally missed the sarcastic part, i only heard some malicious joy (schadenfreude) with regard to Thorzain. And it felt quite a lot misplaced to me in a cast like that. Maybe i should readjust my sense of humor or you should be a bit nicer to teams you (as team) recruited players from in an official cast. It just left a negative impression.
On July 01 2012 15:14 iNcontroL wrote: Sorry for poor casting at the end. I can't begin to tell you how hard 12 hours of casting is
Yeah, casting for that long would lead to slip ups for anyone. The double Mana thing was pretty funny though, you said Mana like 15 times in the span of a minute referring to both players.
On July 01 2012 09:19 Ethi wrote: i don't like incontrols commentating. calling eg better than mouz and not beeing at their own finals feels quite awkward.
EG is world's better than Mouz... Are you telling me JYP/Huk/Puma/idra can't beat them??
So, Mousesports has 2 major tournament wins this year, how many does EG have...?
Not to mention that Mouz does a lot better in teamleagues than EG.
Dude this is TL when you start throwing out facts and stats people get confused
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Miya <GSL Metropolis> 
NaDa
Puzzle <GSL Daybreak> 
CoCa <GSL Antiga Shipyard> ![[image loading]](http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/3086/mouzicon.png)
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SlayerS
Expecting 4-0 for SlayerS though.
Like he could have beaten his corrupter infestor with vikings
