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Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
August 11 2012 18:55 GMT
#3001
On August 12 2012 03:54 Killmouse wrote:
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On August 12 2012 03:53 Plansix wrote:
On August 12 2012 03:52 Wildmoon wrote:
On August 12 2012 03:51 TheAnarchy wrote:
Taeja or flash the first bonjwa of SC2?


Well, Taeja didn't even win that many tournaments. -_-"


Yeah, MVP is more of a bonjwa than Taeja.


but taeja is dominating since 2 months in every tourney, league

zero GSL, period
same for MKP earlier this yaer
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
August 11 2012 18:55 GMT
#3002
why no soundproof booths?
Liquid | SKT
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
August 11 2012 18:55 GMT
#3003
On August 12 2012 03:55 Waxangel wrote:
attention, I am now banning instances bonjwa talk, because it's the stupidest thing ever

thank u
TheMenace
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany244 Posts
August 11 2012 18:55 GMT
#3004
On August 12 2012 03:55 ELA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 03:54 Waxangel wrote:
This potato salad I got is awful, definitely not german


Not german, usually means it's good potato salad though


wrong!
anonymitylol
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada4477 Posts
August 11 2012 18:55 GMT
#3005
On August 12 2012 03:55 Waxangel wrote:
attention, I am now banning instances bonjwa talk, because it's the stupidest thing ever


Thank you. Can I kiss you?
gold on my wrist phone in my pocket
chambertin
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1704 Posts
August 11 2012 18:55 GMT
#3006
On August 12 2012 03:54 Killmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 03:53 Plansix wrote:
On August 12 2012 03:52 Wildmoon wrote:
On August 12 2012 03:51 TheAnarchy wrote:
Taeja or flash the first bonjwa of SC2?


Well, Taeja didn't even win that many tournaments. -_-"


Yeah, MVP is more of a bonjwa than Taeja.


but taeja is dominating since 2 months in every tourney, league


This could indeed be just the beginning, the introduction so to speak, of something legendary...
"I know one thing, that I know nothing" - Socrates?
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
August 11 2012 18:56 GMT
#3007
On August 12 2012 03:55 Waxangel wrote:
attention, I am now banning instances of bonjwa talk, because it's the stupidest thing ever

Thank you!
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
August 11 2012 18:56 GMT
#3008
On August 12 2012 03:50 ELA wrote:
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On August 12 2012 03:46 Yonnua wrote:
On August 12 2012 03:42 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 12 2012 03:40 Yonnua wrote:
Massively disappointing game. YongHwa with the strategy, the massive macro, the enormous punishment of Taeja's economy. Taeja with the turtle in to stim a move. Taeja wins....

wtf?
Taeja microed his army perfectly the entire game.


Vikings on hold position either above bunkers or above dead space. Repeatedly stims when they aren't actually engaging and when he doesn't have enough medivacs to recover the health. Sits army behind his third base. None of those things are "perfect" micro. The only impressive micro he did all game was the marauder lift at the end and that was pretty much just showboating.

The game was massively disappointing because the player who was ahead all game suddenly ended up not ahead because the other guy attacked in to him and there was nothing he could do about it.


LOL

That's got to be the biggest simplification of any game, ever.

TaeJa has incredible decision making, something that is just as quantifiable to the observer and as important as macro or micro.

I know you're disappointed that your favorite team is getting their ass handed to them by a 17 year old, but don't try to oversimplify and thereby discredit great play like that.


Taeja's decision making was average at best. He sat in chokes while being attacked by colossi and only wasn't killed because he had tons of vikings on hold position. His expansions were late and his attempts to attack ended up overextending and doing more damage to himself, except for the last one, where he just attacked in to a maxed army and a ton of cannons and just killed it.

It has nothing to do with "my favourite team" (my favourite team is StartaleQ) - it has to do with the fact that I enjoy good games where the better player is rewarded, not just sycophantically supporting the foreign team because I wasn't born in South Korea.
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 11 2012 18:56 GMT
#3009
On August 12 2012 03:54 Killmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 03:53 Plansix wrote:
On August 12 2012 03:52 Wildmoon wrote:
On August 12 2012 03:51 TheAnarchy wrote:
Taeja or flash the first bonjwa of SC2?


Well, Taeja didn't even win that many tournaments. -_-"


Yeah, MVP is more of a bonjwa than Taeja.


but taeja is dominating since 2 months in every tourney, league

MVP was doing that after August to the end of the year, maybe in 4 months we'll debate but for now MVP's peak is so much higher than taeja.
Glorious SEA doto
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
August 11 2012 18:56 GMT
#3010
Why does everyone have go to one extreme or the other?

Did Yongwha excute that game perfectly? No, he had big lead and with better decision making he would have won that game.

Did Taeja play really well to get back from the deficit? Yes, he did. He took every advanteged of every piece that was handed to him and turtled well and put on the pressure at the right time and microed like a beast, like always ^^
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
August 11 2012 18:56 GMT
#3011
On August 12 2012 03:54 Killmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 03:53 Plansix wrote:
On August 12 2012 03:52 Wildmoon wrote:
On August 12 2012 03:51 TheAnarchy wrote:
Taeja or flash the first bonjwa of SC2?


Well, Taeja didn't even win that many tournaments. -_-"


Yeah, MVP is more of a bonjwa than Taeja.


but taeja is dominating since 2 months in every tourney, league


yeah, he's been doing well.

but i think you were not there to witness MVP's reign of terror. he was a massive favorite against EVERYBODY he played for several months and won a lot of shit back to back.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
MangoMountain
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2044 Posts
August 11 2012 18:56 GMT
#3012
On August 12 2012 03:55 bokchoi wrote:
IM (as QIM) did get AKed in the first Bo9 in the TAC 1 finals, then they proceeded to win. Would be crazy if it happened again xD

That's because they only sent b-teamers
kusto
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation823 Posts
August 11 2012 18:56 GMT
#3013
Oh by the way who is the blonde guy sitting next to Nazgul?
the game is the game
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
August 11 2012 18:56 GMT
#3014
On August 12 2012 03:54 Killmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 03:53 Plansix wrote:
On August 12 2012 03:52 Wildmoon wrote:
On August 12 2012 03:51 TheAnarchy wrote:
Taeja or flash the first bonjwa of SC2?


Well, Taeja didn't even win that many tournaments. -_-"


Yeah, MVP is more of a bonjwa than Taeja.


but taeja is dominating since 2 months in every tourney, league

MVP won everything for a couple months as well before his wrists went to hell.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
August 11 2012 18:56 GMT
#3015
On August 12 2012 03:53 chambertin wrote:
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On August 12 2012 03:47 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 12 2012 03:45 kaokentake wrote:
any high master terran/toss players here kinda not as "awestruck" as everyone else in this thread?


first of all... wtf... if the toss simply a-moved in the final battle he would have won considering 30 extra zealots from his massive bank would warpin and join the fight soon... he backed off as vikings sniped collossi... wtf...

i mean taeja is the best but im not as "omg omg giddly" as everyone here im mostly just thinking wtf how can a toss player be so clueless he spent 2000 minerals in cannons right before the final battle then runs away when a-moving and warping in zealots would have let him win

taeja is impressive im not talking him down... just sayin that last game was no reason to drop your jaws


Taeja has a better version of the HuK factor. Whenever a player has a winning position against him, they inexplicably drop the ball.


weirdest thought.... Taeja is like the combination of the best parts of Stephano and Huk... @_@

nonsensical explanation: ridiculous fortune and seemingly instinctive understanding of the game, amazing positioning with occasionally sloppy macro, balls of steel...


Stephano's reads and Mvp's mechanics.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
FireFlanks
Profile Joined August 2012
Montenegro9 Posts
August 11 2012 18:56 GMT
#3016
fuck this shit I'll just check the results
Doomwish
Profile Joined July 2011
438 Posts
August 11 2012 18:56 GMT
#3017
On August 12 2012 03:54 Yorbon wrote:
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On August 12 2012 03:51 Doomwish wrote:
i hate how sc2 always comes down to 1 big battle and if you lose you are done. like 9 macro games out of 10, even if one player takes small leads all game if he loses one fight hes done. especially PvT
you were watching right?
They maintained tension on one position for like 10 minutes, how that game was 'one big battle' is a mystery to me.


the one battle where taeja stormed into the protoss 4th and killed everything..the game was over at that point. hence..one big engagement and you are done. MOST of the time, especially in PvT. How is that hard to understand.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
August 11 2012 18:57 GMT
#3018
True, Wolf is GM when it comes to talking about hair, I agree with that Kevin and Doa
EZ4ENCE
chambertin
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1704 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 18:57:25
August 11 2012 18:57 GMT
#3019
On August 12 2012 03:55 Waxangel wrote:
attention, I am now banning instances of bonjwa talk, because it's the stupidest thing ever


On August 12 2012 03:54 Waxangel wrote:
This potato salad I got is chobo, definitely not bonjwa


"I know one thing, that I know nothing" - Socrates?
anonymitylol
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada4477 Posts
August 11 2012 18:57 GMT
#3020
On August 12 2012 03:56 kusto wrote:
Oh by the way who is the blonde guy sitting next to Nazgul?


I think it was Robin (Bumblebee)
gold on my wrist phone in my pocket
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