[GSTL] TSL vs FXO Pennant Race Group B - Page 37

On June 23 2012 18:52 forsooth wrote:
Another day, another run of wins by Zerg.

On June 23 2012 19:16 iglocska wrote:


I see 2 wins for zerg and 2 for protoss in zvp, 1 win for terran and 1 for zerg in tvz.

On June 23 2012 19:51 Remi wrote:

Where do you see 2nd zvp win for protoss? And the fact that teams send massive amount of zerg players speaks for itself.

On June 23 2012 20:00 Diavlo wrote:


The best players on TSL are zerg except polt (who played) and Inori (who either just came back from the US or is still there)
and FXO send 2 zerg, 2 protoss and 1 terran.

Such a tell that zerg is broken...

On June 23 2012 20:06 SiroKO wrote:
I like this form of circular non-sensical reasoning.

You define the best players as the ones who win the most.
Since Zerg is currently the best race, Zergs are winning the most.
As they're winning the most, they're the best players, so they're not winning because of balance issues.

On June 23 2012 21:38 Gesarjack wrote:


That's not at all what he said. He just noticed that apart from Polt and Inori all the good players on TSL are zergs, so it would make sense that they send out zergs and get zerg wins. Does that sound illogical to you?

Here are some nice other facts: NSH got 5 terran wins last week. The Code S breakdown was basically third-third-third, with zerg qualifying the least amount, and each race getting about half of their players to next round.

I'm sorry that you suck at TvZ right now but don't try to pin it on balance.

On June 23 2012 21:51 Dodgin wrote:


Yup let's just not mention every other tournament not named GSL/GSTL

On June 23 2012 22:13 Catatonic wrote:

Please do enlighten us on what other tournaments you are thinking of? I can only think of one so either you're delusional, seeing something no one else is seeing, or just extreamly bias I'm thinking two of these are correct though maybe you're right though just not seeing how that's possible lol.

On June 23 2012 22:14 Dodgin wrote:
Are you really going to make me go through TLPD for you to show the low TvZ winrates? I'm sure you can find it yourself, look at Dreamhack Summer, GESL, and MLG Anaheim.

On June 23 2012 22:14 Dodgin wrote:


Are you really going to make me go through TLPD for you to show the low TvZ winrates? I'm sure you can find it yourself, look at Dreamhack Summer, GESL, and MLG Anaheim.

On June 23 2012 22:26 Gesarjack wrote:


Considering you're including a tournament in which Puma 4-1'ed his group and Marineking went 5-0 in a group that included Symbol, then beat Stephano on his way to finish 3rd, yeah, we're going to make you go through TLPD.

Also, that's 3 tournaments. Congrats on using a WAY BIGGER SAMPLE than me.

On June 23 2012 23:13 VirgilSC2 wrote:

Terran finally dropped under 50% in a matchup for once?

BLASPHEMY!

On June 23 2012 23:31 chipmonklord17 wrote:


The game is heading toward balance. Now that terran can't "herp derp" mass hellions into a drone line and kill everything and the player actually has to have some THOUGHT or SKILL many terran players are suffering. Its not really balance's fault that something got nerfed yet terran players DON'T REACT AT ALL. Terran players have had to do so much less for so long to get the same amount of wins (backd up by early terran dominance ect ect) that now that their race is being more skill based and less "did my hellions run in" they have no idea what the hell to do. Terrans need to start exploring other options, for example mech. Why any terrans are still going bio in TvZ is astonishing as zerg has no good answer for a late game maxed mech push into sky terran/mech. But no, its much easier to still reactor hellion expand into bio or 1 rax expand into bio because thats exactly what's been happening since people actually started expanding

On June 23 2012 23:31 chipmonklord17 wrote:


The game is heading toward balance. Now that terran can't "herp derp" mass hellions into a drone line and kill everything and the player actually has to have some THOUGHT or SKILL many terran players are suffering. Its not really balance's fault that something got nerfed yet terran players DON'T REACT AT ALL. Terran players have had to do so much less for so long to get the same amount of wins (backd up by early terran dominance ect ect) that now that their race is being more skill based and less "did my hellions run in" they have no idea what the hell to do. Terrans need to start exploring other options, for example mech. Why any terrans are still going bio in TvZ is astonishing as zerg has no good answer for a late game maxed mech push into sky terran/mech. But no, its much easier to still reactor hellion expand into bio or 1 rax expand into bio because thats exactly what's been happening since people actually started expanding