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[TSL4] Qualifier 4 - EU/NA #3 - Page 11

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mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
June 19 2012 19:01 GMT
#201
online qualifiers so random No offence to the lesser known players of course, but it seems TSL4 won't be as stacked as TSL3 as regards player quality (or fame?)
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fabulously
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway724 Posts
June 19 2012 19:01 GMT
#202
On June 20 2012 03:55 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Liquipedia says Trimaster ties it up 1-1


Last game of Trimaster vs SaSe being casted by Axeltoss right now.
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torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
June 19 2012 19:01 GMT
#203
Hard day for terrans. Even the lag is killing them.
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
June 19 2012 19:01 GMT
#204
On June 20 2012 04:01 mikkmagro wrote:
online qualifiers so random No offence to the lesser known players of course, but it seems TSL4 won't be as stacked as TSL3 as regards player quality (or fame?)

remember that no one knew who thorzain was before tsl3
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Kilby
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1069 Posts
June 19 2012 19:02 GMT
#205
On June 20 2012 03:21 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 03:19 torm3ntin wrote:
On June 20 2012 03:17 StarVe wrote:
On June 20 2012 03:16 torm3ntin wrote:
On June 20 2012 03:12 SkyTheUnknown wrote:
Anyone knows why there are so few players of the absolute 'top' in these qualifiers? Did I miss something?


You are only missing the concept of TOP.

Naniwa is already in + Thorzain.

All the other top europeans are competing despite Stephano.

And about americans, Sheth and Nony are playing while the EG guys are not and i dunno why.

Lzgamer participated multiple times already.


i saw that today but he is refering to the TOP so he might not want to know about lzgamer :D

Nony isn't TOP either and you listed him. They will most likely not qualify anyway, but it's still nice to see them play in here.

Relatively few Europeans playing today is almost completely due to Dreamhack.

Nony SHOULD be in the top and I think pretty much everyone everywhere would agree with that. And Stephano should also be participating but I guess he is just chilling and waiting for the next qualifier that would fit his schedule the best. As to why Idra, Incontrol, Machine, Kiwikaki and Demuslim etc have not participated, I have no idea. They definitely should. Even though monetarily it might not be the biggest tournament out there, it IS actually the biggest tournament as regards to the community and I guess the sponsors should and will also notice that, sooner or later.

Basically, if you have not qualified for TSL4, you don't really matter.
RageCommodore
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany912 Posts
June 19 2012 19:04 GMT
#206
On June 20 2012 03:54 Shellshock1122 wrote:
aw man KnowMe champion of the low apm people is out


Oh noes would have been too good to be true anyways, but still a good run
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torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
June 19 2012 19:05 GMT
#207
For some of the EG guys not participating there is definitely something going on. I mean, Idra streamed twice while the tourny was going on. Probably he is pissed because of his loss in TSL 2 for nony...
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
June 19 2012 19:05 GMT
#208
There go the terrans =(

You better win now Sase
Get.Midikem
Profile Joined September 2006
Sweden312 Posts
June 19 2012 19:06 GMT
#209
On June 20 2012 04:01 Choboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 04:01 mikkmagro wrote:
online qualifiers so random No offence to the lesser known players of course, but it seems TSL4 won't be as stacked as TSL3 as regards player quality (or fame?)

remember that no one knew who thorzain was before tsl3


I did. Had noticed his results some months before.

Tsl3 was an exception from 1 and 2. Did like 1 and 2 more though becouse of no invites except from top 3. More fun with some new talents.
Warpish
Profile Joined June 2011
834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 19:07:13
June 19 2012 19:06 GMT
#210
On June 20 2012 04:01 Choboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 04:01 mikkmagro wrote:
online qualifiers so random No offence to the lesser known players of course, but it seems TSL4 won't be as stacked as TSL3 as regards player quality (or fame?)

remember that no one knew who thorzain was before tsl3


Also, TSL3 had a lot of invites (Korean top players) and TSL4 will not have that. If you look at the list of qualified players to TSL3 you will find ZeeRax, Ciara, Cruncher (unknown at the time), etc.

That's the beauty of the TSL´s. Embrace it (and pay respects to Mycerion ).
AzBozz
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany518 Posts
June 19 2012 19:07 GMT
#211
Im worried there wont be much terrans qualify TT
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Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
June 19 2012 19:09 GMT
#212
On June 20 2012 04:01 mikkmagro wrote:
online qualifiers so random No offence to the lesser known players of course, but it seems TSL4 won't be as stacked as TSL3 as regards player quality (or fame?)


Eh, most of the "big" names were pretty unknown before TSL3. No one had any idea who ThorZain or NightEnd were. Goody and AdelScott were known to be good, but no one expected them to actually take games. Same goes for Cruncher.

One of the big problems for up and comers is they have no way to actually GET TO the big tournaments. If these no names have good break out performances then there is a good chance we will start seeing more of them after the event.

Plus, look at all the names from TS3 that have absolutely fallen off the map. Many of them, like Mondragon and Fruitdealer, are just plain gone, while many others (whom I won't mention by name), are still around but are a shadow of their former glory. There is no question that this TSL will be far more competitive.

You might be right about there being less famous players though, but again, TSL is where players GET famous.
For Aiur???
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
June 19 2012 19:09 GMT
#213
On June 20 2012 04:02 Kilby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 03:21 StarVe wrote:
On June 20 2012 03:19 torm3ntin wrote:
On June 20 2012 03:17 StarVe wrote:
On June 20 2012 03:16 torm3ntin wrote:
On June 20 2012 03:12 SkyTheUnknown wrote:
Anyone knows why there are so few players of the absolute 'top' in these qualifiers? Did I miss something?


You are only missing the concept of TOP.

Naniwa is already in + Thorzain.

All the other top europeans are competing despite Stephano.

And about americans, Sheth and Nony are playing while the EG guys are not and i dunno why.

Lzgamer participated multiple times already.


i saw that today but he is refering to the TOP so he might not want to know about lzgamer :D

Nony isn't TOP either and you listed him. They will most likely not qualify anyway, but it's still nice to see them play in here.

Relatively few Europeans playing today is almost completely due to Dreamhack.

Nony SHOULD be in the top and I think pretty much everyone everywhere would agree with that. And Stephano should also be participating but I guess he is just chilling and waiting for the next qualifier that would fit his schedule the best. As to why Idra, Incontrol, Machine, Kiwikaki and Demuslim etc have not participated, I have no idea. They definitely should. Even though monetarily it might not be the biggest tournament out there, it IS actually the biggest tournament as regards to the community and I guess the sponsors should and will also notice that, sooner or later.

Basically, if you have not qualified for TSL4, you don't really matter.


Tell that to Nestea/MVP/etc.

TSL4 is big and I'm excited, but by no means is it a "must participate" tournament. I don't see Stephano participating today and I think most people would agree he's the top foreigner who hasn't already qualified (so we can avoid the Naniwa/Stephano arguments).

It's not like people are killing themselves to participate in all the qualifiers either. Grubby isn't playing today (played the first two), others have skipped here and there.

To be honest the monetary value of the top prize is not nearly as comparable to those of other tournaments, which either have significantly larger cash prizes or significantly shorter time periods (eg. MLG).
Get.Midikem
Profile Joined September 2006
Sweden312 Posts
June 19 2012 19:11 GMT
#214
On June 20 2012 04:07 AzBozz wrote:
Im worried there wont be much terrans qualify TT


Yeah me to actually. Hoping for qxc, merz, lucifron, strelok, Fenix, goody and sjow. Might have forgotten someone.
narkissos
Profile Joined December 2011
198 Posts
June 19 2012 19:11 GMT
#215
On June 20 2012 04:07 AzBozz wrote:
Im worried there wont be much terrans qualify TT



Goody got this.
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
June 19 2012 19:12 GMT
#216
On June 20 2012 04:05 torm3ntin wrote:
For some of the EG guys not participating there is definitely something going on. I mean, Idra streamed twice while the tourny was going on. Probably he is pissed because of his loss in TSL 2 for nony...


Yes, he's definitely harbouring some dislike over a tournament that happened years ago, even though he participated in the subsequent tournament...

Simply put it's not really worth the effort for some of the top players (eg. Idra, Stephano) - the rigorous number of qualifiers and strict procedures just to get in make it kind of unappealing. It's great for others though who are willing to put the time into playing 8 qualifiers or whatever to try and hit the main draw.

LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
June 19 2012 19:12 GMT
#217
On June 20 2012 04:01 Choboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 04:01 mikkmagro wrote:
online qualifiers so random No offence to the lesser known players of course, but it seems TSL4 won't be as stacked as TSL3 as regards player quality (or fame?)

remember that no one knew who thorzain was before tsl3

I honest to god hope you don't mean that literally. I've known the guy since his early WC3 days.
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FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
June 19 2012 19:12 GMT
#218
On June 20 2012 04:11 narkissos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 04:07 AzBozz wrote:
Im worried there wont be much terrans qualify TT



Goody got this.


Definitely, seeing as he's been eliminated...
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
June 19 2012 19:13 GMT
#219
On June 20 2012 04:12 LittLeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 04:01 Choboo wrote:
On June 20 2012 04:01 mikkmagro wrote:
online qualifiers so random No offence to the lesser known players of course, but it seems TSL4 won't be as stacked as TSL3 as regards player quality (or fame?)

remember that no one knew who thorzain was before tsl3

I honest to god hope you don't mean that literally. I've known the guy since his early WC3 days.


lol jeeze the swedes getting upset. Obviously he didn't mean that literally, the people on Prae knew who Thorzain was, his mother knew, etc.

The point is 99% of the casual public in TL wouldn't recognize Thorzain as any good until TSL3 happened.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
June 19 2012 19:13 GMT
#220
On June 20 2012 04:11 narkissos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 04:07 AzBozz wrote:
Im worried there wont be much terrans qualify TT



Goody got this.


Yes, Goody is rolling. Despite being disqualified, he passed Fenix, Cloud, MaNa, Lowely, JonnyREcco and BeastyQT today and graps one of the qualifying spots.
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