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Kettchup
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1911 Posts
June 18 2012 21:56 GMT
#5721
On June 19 2012 06:48 mememolly wrote:
stephano vs naniwa would have shut down the internet, still I'm hyped for dimaga <3


Shut down as in no one would have watched that one-sided stomping? I'm glad we have an interesting final.
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
June 18 2012 21:56 GMT
#5722
On June 19 2012 06:51 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 06:49 Jojo131 wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:48 TheSir wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:45 Gurgl wrote:
Dota 2 is great Esports if you understand the game. Sure it's hard to understand if you've never played but so is SC2.


SC2 is 10 times easier to watch.

A lot of that is attributed to casters imo, we've got some of the best


Bullshit. 2GD is actually a very good caster of Quake.

I've heard my fair share about Tobi and this is the first live cast I've seen of him. I must say he's fucking brilliant.

He doesn't mis-speak. He's fast and it sounds like he knows his shit about the game.


Nah he doesn't know that much tbh. But he mostly casts together with progamers so it doesn't matter
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
Sp00ly
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1546 Posts
June 18 2012 21:56 GMT
#5723
On June 19 2012 06:55 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 06:53 Klonere wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:53 Wunder wrote:
Damn those were some sick DOTA2 games, hopefully SC2 will be pretty hype too


Its ZvP so probably not T_T


so true . Only reason I am going to watch is to study dimaga's ling/bane style.


If Mana doesn't get storm at least once this series I will cry.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 18 2012 21:57 GMT
#5724
On June 19 2012 06:55 [17]Purple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 06:54 Hassybaby wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:52 [17]Purple wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:52 Hassybaby wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:50 Drazerk wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:48 morlakaix wrote:
I don't understand how hardcore SC fans can bash dota.

I played dota for 6-7 years, and starcraft for 2-3 years.

Starcraft has way too many factors of luck, and sometimes you can lose a game PURELY based on luck because you scouted an all-in last, or you went for a macro build and someone decided to all in you. One miscontrol in SC2 can cause you to lose the game.

In dota, there isn't really a lot of luck. Winning has to do with teamwork and decision making, except the decision making is much harder because there are 4 others around you.

Even Pro starcraft players have said SC has too much of a luck factor, I don't see how the fans can't recognize that.


Ogre magi
CK
Mord
Sylla
Chen
Enchantress

All those heroes are pretty luck dependant and those are just the ones from the top of my head


Ok I sort of agree with the other 2, but those ones...what....


Chen's nuke is pretty random


Aww cmon, that's not anywhere near as important as the rest of his abilities in most cases.


Fine, but we all have to agree that Faceless Void has the most annoying RNG passive in the game...


I hate necro's more
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
June 18 2012 21:57 GMT
#5725
never played a game in my life, but just from watching its pretty clear that quake live is the shit.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
June 18 2012 21:57 GMT
#5726
On June 19 2012 06:55 [17]Purple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 06:54 Hassybaby wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:52 [17]Purple wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:52 Hassybaby wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:50 Drazerk wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:48 morlakaix wrote:
I don't understand how hardcore SC fans can bash dota.

I played dota for 6-7 years, and starcraft for 2-3 years.

Starcraft has way too many factors of luck, and sometimes you can lose a game PURELY based on luck because you scouted an all-in last, or you went for a macro build and someone decided to all in you. One miscontrol in SC2 can cause you to lose the game.

In dota, there isn't really a lot of luck. Winning has to do with teamwork and decision making, except the decision making is much harder because there are 4 others around you.

Even Pro starcraft players have said SC has too much of a luck factor, I don't see how the fans can't recognize that.


Ogre magi
CK
Mord
Sylla
Chen
Enchantress

All those heroes are pretty luck dependant and those are just the ones from the top of my head


Ok I sort of agree with the other 2, but those ones...what....


Chen's nuke is pretty random


Aww cmon, that's not anywhere near as important as the rest of his abilities in most cases.


Fine, but we all have to agree that Faceless Void has the most annoying RNG passive in the game...


Dude, Ogre Magi...

Owait, that's not random. He always multicasts
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
June 18 2012 21:57 GMT
#5727
On June 19 2012 06:54 Linwelin wrote:
I wanna watch more Dota 2! Any specific website I should browse orrr?

http://joindota.com
http://gosugamers.net
and ofc the dota2 section at tl.net
pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
June 18 2012 21:57 GMT
#5728
On June 19 2012 06:55 Linwelin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 06:55 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:54 Linwelin wrote:
I wanna watch more Dota 2! Any specific website I should browse orrr?

www.dotacommentaries.com is my favorite. my fav caster is http://www.youtube.com/user/LuminousInverse/videos

also check out gosugamers.net and joindota.com for dota related news etc


Thank you very much

Also if you check out the dreamhack thread on the dota 2 forums here on TL you can find links to purge and ld's streams and they are also 2 very good and insightful casters and players.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
June 18 2012 21:57 GMT
#5729
On June 19 2012 06:51 [17]Purple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 06:50 ZAiNs wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:49 mememolly wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:48 TheSir wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:45 Gurgl wrote:
Dota 2 is great Esports if you understand the game. Sure it's hard to understand if you've never played but so is SC2.


SC2 is 10 times easier to watch.


any objective evidence to support that?

Common sense.

um... no

You think the game with 10 different players playing at once with tons of CPU controlled characters and where each character each has their own items is easier to watch than SC2? The casters screaming 80% of the game doesn't make it any easier to follow. I'm not saying Dota sucks or anything, just that SC2 is obviously easier to watch.
sekritzzz
Profile Joined December 2010
1515 Posts
June 18 2012 21:57 GMT
#5730
On June 19 2012 06:54 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 06:53 HaXXspetten wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:51 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:48 Fragile51 wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:47 Sp00ly wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:46 Klipsys wrote:
SC2 fans get mad when BW fans shit on SC2.
So they SC2 Fans shit on DOTA2 Fans, who then shit on LoL fans.



Who do the LoL fans shit on?


Quake live.

no one shits on quake live, quake live is an insanely tough and competitive game, second most skilled esport behind BW

^ This. Seriously though, watching QL first person blows my mind, anyone who says otherwise is just...

but people who just watch first person wont understand all the shit that is going on, the rune control and movements are SO hard to do, yet these guys perfect it.

Most people understand quake live pretty fast..... at least I did. Dota/LoL/HoN type games need someone to play it to get it. If you dont play them u wont get it.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97274 Posts
June 18 2012 21:57 GMT
#5731
Who's favored in this final?
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Youtakenocandle
Profile Joined February 2012
543 Posts
June 18 2012 21:57 GMT
#5732
When is it starting?
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
June 18 2012 21:57 GMT
#5733
On June 19 2012 06:56 Sp00ly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 06:55 blade55555 wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:53 Klonere wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:53 Wunder wrote:
Damn those were some sick DOTA2 games, hopefully SC2 will be pretty hype too


Its ZvP so probably not T_T


so true . Only reason I am going to watch is to study dimaga's ling/bane style.


If Mana doesn't get storm at least once this series I will cry.

Storm is usually not researched during blink-stalker all-ins.
MangoMountain
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2044 Posts
June 18 2012 21:58 GMT
#5734
On June 19 2012 06:57 Hassybaby wrote:

Dude, Ogre Magi...

Owait, that's not random. He always multicasts

Except when I'm using him T_T
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 18 2012 21:58 GMT
#5735
On June 19 2012 06:56 hyptonic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 06:52 Fishgle wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:52 Hassybaby wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:50 Drazerk wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:48 morlakaix wrote:
I don't understand how hardcore SC fans can bash dota.

I played dota for 6-7 years, and starcraft for 2-3 years.

Starcraft has way too many factors of luck, and sometimes you can lose a game PURELY based on luck because you scouted an all-in last, or you went for a macro build and someone decided to all in you. One miscontrol in SC2 can cause you to lose the game.

In dota, there isn't really a lot of luck. Winning has to do with teamwork and decision making, except the decision making is much harder because there are 4 others around you.

Even Pro starcraft players have said SC has too much of a luck factor, I don't see how the fans can't recognize that.


Ogre magi
CK
Mord
Sylla
Chen
Enchantress

All those heroes are pretty luck dependant and those are just the ones from the top of my head


Ok I sort of agree with the other 2, but those ones...what....

Jungle spawns are random. You can never depend on a Centaur at 0:30, you might get all Mud Golems and be completely fucked over early on.


what are you talking about? you can take a furbolg or a troll if you don't have a centaur


Or double wildkin!
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 18 2012 21:58 GMT
#5736
On June 19 2012 06:56 Ragoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 06:51 StarStruck wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:49 Jojo131 wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:48 TheSir wrote:
On June 19 2012 06:45 Gurgl wrote:
Dota 2 is great Esports if you understand the game. Sure it's hard to understand if you've never played but so is SC2.


SC2 is 10 times easier to watch.

A lot of that is attributed to casters imo, we've got some of the best


Bullshit. 2GD is actually a very good caster of Quake.

I've heard my fair share about Tobi and this is the first live cast I've seen of him. I must say he's fucking brilliant.

He doesn't mis-speak. He's fast and it sounds like he knows his shit about the game.


Nah he doesn't know that much tbh. But he mostly casts together with progamers so it doesn't matter


I think you get the point I was trying to make.

I could go on and on about Rotti, ToD in WC3 and so forth.

The thing is there are many great casters out there for each game. If you bring the passion and know your shit. You can do well.
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
June 18 2012 21:58 GMT
#5737
Start the finals already?! I heard 23.15 b4 T_T
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
MentalGNT
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1264 Posts
June 18 2012 21:58 GMT
#5738
On June 19 2012 06:49 Slardar wrote:
I hope some new people who haven't witnessed Dota2 before, liked it and hop on the hypewagon! Going to be a sick eSport <3.

I for one did. I play a fair bit of HON so I'm not completely lost when it comes to MOBA, but I have still never played DOTA.

That is about to change though. Just bought a beta key
What a player
Vadrigar
Profile Joined January 2011
Bulgaria2379 Posts
June 18 2012 21:58 GMT
#5739
On June 19 2012 06:54 Linwelin wrote:
I wanna watch more Dota 2! Any specific website I should browse orrr?

joindota.com
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97274 Posts
June 18 2012 21:58 GMT
#5740
On June 19 2012 06:58 Zorgaz wrote:
Start the finals already?! I heard 23.15 b4 T_T

It got delayed by Dota2 finals
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