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On June 13 2012 20:40 polyphonyEX wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 20:39 Kitaen wrote:On June 13 2012 20:31 FataLe wrote:On June 13 2012 20:29 thepeonwhocould wrote: Listen guys. IM.MvP and Keen are in the top 20 Terran players in the world. They are cheesing because the matchup is impossible late game. They want to win at any cost, and they feel this is the best way to win. Don't get angry at Keen/MvP, get angry at Blizzard for creating this situation. Blizzard has forced their hand. and squirtles top 5 toss perhaps they know he's a better player and THAT's why they cheese. But that can't be possible right? Has to be imbalance. if you really think squirtle is a better play than MvP in any regards you have no clue about this game Why don't people just SHUT UP? God this thread is annoying. What has this community fucking turned into.
To be honest, I haven't been involved in this thread at all but you have been whining and complaining with the rest of them.
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Can a mod step in and put a warning at the top to stop the balance discussion/whine? It's getting a bit ridiculous from both sides.
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On June 13 2012 20:36 Theovide wrote: None seems to take up the obvious, why in the heck would Keen simply not 2 rax if he realises Squirtle has no idea how to deal with it.
Also, suprised that Squirtle hasn't practiced vs it after the final. Lastly, if you win a game with that big a disadvantage Squirtle did in the first game, WHY DO YOU NOT PLAY SAFE AND SCOUT ON PYLON? You are not going to lose on mining 20 less minerals if you can win with a 40 food disadvantage as long as they don't 2 rax.
Posts like this should result in a ban.
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Thorzain should proxy twice as well now xD.
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There must be a Rains of Castamere pun in this somewhere
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The only thing I hate about those cheese wins in TvP is that is brings the win rate close to 50% and thus blizzard thinks the matchup is fine
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On June 13 2012 20:37 Sakkreth wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 20:37 justinpal wrote:On June 13 2012 20:35 samurai80 wrote:On June 13 2012 20:33 Swiv wrote: imagine how awesome it would be if gumiho or tzain would 2:0 squirtle by 2*11/11 proxy :D how awesome !? how pathetic u mean !? If Squirtle can't defend it then he doesn't deserve to win anyway. LOL WTF, he had better micro in both games by far... Squirtle got completely outplayed in both games, he even used move command into bunker fire a couple times.
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On June 13 2012 20:41 Kkxtrouble wrote: It's funny because the terrans were complaining about late TvP saying it is impossible. Now the Protoss are complaining about how unfare it is that he won with cheese, and that squirtle shouldve won. You guys must really, really, really...really enjoy complaining. Yes, please lump all Protoss players as one entity. The second comment seem to apply to almost everyone here apparently
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On June 13 2012 20:43 Waxangel wrote: too much effort
killing esports
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On June 13 2012 20:39 NightOfTheDead wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 20:37 FakeDeath wrote:On June 13 2012 20:36 NightOfTheDead wrote: Keen doesnt deserve to advance first. It's not about Terran, it is not about Protoss. It is about Keen. He does not deserve it, period. Hehehe. when MVP does the same thing against Naniwa and won.Does MVP not deserve it? LOL DEAL WITH IT MVP has shown consistency. And amazing play. Which Keen never ever did. He is just bad/lucky.
Are you bitter? Keen did what he needed to do to win.Same case with MVP Plus, he beat Nestea and MMA to get Code S so i definitely won't called him bad or lucky.
So yeah Squirtle handled that badly. But what done is done.Keen exploited that fact.
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Whoever ends up facing Squirtle in the Final Match better do proxy 11/11 rax twice :D
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On June 13 2012 20:42 bittman wrote:Oh man, I think my favourite was Blizzcon 2011. You know, the tonnes of posts talking about how Nestea threw the game on purpose. Good times.
Its a shame the mods came in and ruined that derailment
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On June 13 2012 20:42 FataLe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 20:39 TechNoTrance wrote:On June 13 2012 20:38 Rainfall7711 wrote:On June 13 2012 20:34 Kommander wrote:On June 13 2012 20:32 Rainfall7711 wrote:On June 13 2012 20:31 paradoxOO9 wrote:I don't know why people are so against anyone that cheeses. A win is a win, get over it. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/t5wZl.gif) Unless a Protoss cheeses anyone. Then it's imbalance. Squirtle does a 5 gate: "OMG PROTOSS EARLY GAME IS STRONGER THAN TERRAN OMG OMG IMBA IMBA" Keen 2raxes twice: "ATTABOY KEEN YOU ROCK OH YEAH!" Team Liquid at its finest.  This is without exaggeration what happens, it's retarded. I'm fairly new to TL, never expected the whining to be this bad. Getting flashbacks of what the official bnet forums are like O.o Welcome to TeamLiquid.. Where the only reason a player loses is because of Imbalance 
Thanks! :D Now I can use this logic to pump my own ego and not take responsibility for my own actions! Yay!
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is this more bit by bit, or more rain?
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We're not going to talk about this game are we? It's a mirror match up so it's hard to cry about imbalance =(
BFH pretty OP against SCVs though. I mean, how are you meant to counter BFH with SCVs?!?
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On June 13 2012 20:42 CtrlShiftAltGrrrrrrr wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2012 20:40 FataLe wrote:On June 13 2012 20:39 trullis wrote:On June 13 2012 20:31 FataLe wrote:On June 13 2012 20:29 thepeonwhocould wrote: Listen guys. IM.MvP and Keen are in the top 20 Terran players in the world. They are cheesing because the matchup is impossible late game. They want to win at any cost, and they feel this is the best way to win. Don't get angry at Keen/MvP, get angry at Blizzard for creating this situation. Blizzard has forced their hand. and squirtles top 5 toss perhaps they know he's a better player and THAT's why they cheese. But that can't be possible right? Has to be imbalance. And why wouldn't keen use the strategy he thinks is most likely to result in a win in his favor? exactly. no need to point toward imbalance lol. he smelled blood after game two. used in game 3. profit for keen. well done. No they proxy 2rax cuz he sucks at defending it, and most toss are abusive fags who delay gate get 2 gas and dont scout. Its also motivated by the fact that lategame is hard but if u think u have a positive shot at winning with an allin, how allin is it really. tournament play isnt about absolute terms yea, that's why i said he smelled blood after game two lol.
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lol we are most definitely not at war with Norway
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