EPT[Code S] RO32 Group C GSL 2012 Season 3 - Page 29
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EerieTraveler
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On June 13 2012 18:48 rothsbury wrote: Mass production has meant better and cheaper products in everything else, why not music? Cheaper products? sure. Better products? No. | ||
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Dalavita
Sweden1113 Posts
On June 13 2012 18:42 anonymitylol wrote: Exactly, I was getting used to going for a 1-rax CC every game, and whenever I did it I'd just get some random all-in thrown at me, or they'd out-expand me because I can't punish them until I have medivacs up, or they'll just mass sentries and explode me. If I go for a 2rax opening to try and punish a quick nexus, they just throw out a couple sentries and stop it. I still don't understand how people think Protoss have a weak early/mid-game. The reason Protoss has a statistically weaker midgame compared to Terran is because Protosses actually aim for a lategame where their advantage is the highest. As a result, their greedy lategame builds leave them vulnerable in the midgame, where terran gets all their tech and starts their harass. The misconception is thus that terran is strongest in the midgame and protoss is weakest there. What has happened is that Protoss discovered that their advantage vs T is the strongest in the lategame, and terrans are forced into going for midgame pushes because of the protoss playstyle. Protosses have ridiculously good midgame timings like the 8gate as we just saw and protoss earlygame is stronger than terran earlygame end of. | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
On June 13 2012 18:45 Animzor wrote: kpop is also objectively terrible, it's factory created. One does not simply blaspheme | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
In the top right is  GumihoIn the bottom right is Keen | ||
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Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
On June 13 2012 18:47 Fragile51 wrote: No. But lets just conveniently forget about that :p There really are, there's that famous 6 bunker game vs MC which MVP lost and I've seen MMA lose to so many forms of this allin its not funny.Also, I believe that it's way too hard to hold these pushes/pressures even when prepared, the way to go is possibly early gas, at least Byun had a lot of success with it. | ||
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
And if you think 3 base 8 gate is unstoppable watch Polt's Fight Club game against MC on Antiga. He gets enough units out to shut down the initial push and then uses mulipronged attacks with smart dropship play to do tons of damage. Toss might have a big army after 8 gates but without blink/charge/colossi/templar tech stopping mulitpronged drops from doing damage is tough. | ||
Waxangel
United States33572 Posts
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On June 13 2012 18:49 Drazerk wrote: Game one on entombed valley In the top right is GumihoIn the bottom right is Keen3:10 CC from Keen on the way Gumiho getting his OC | ||
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
I hope we see mech. | ||
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fixed_point
Germany4891 Posts
On June 13 2012 18:50 IshinShishi wrote: There really are, there's that famous 6 bunker game vs MC which MVP lost and I've seen MMA lose to so many forms of this allin its not funny.Also, I believe that it's way too hard to hold these pushes/pressures even when prepared, the way to go is possibly early gas, at least Byun had a lot of success with it. Firstly, we probably shouldn't use MMA's TvP as a benchmark. Secondly, how long ago was that game you referred to? | ||
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m0ck
4194 Posts
On June 13 2012 18:50 tomatriedes wrote: Seriously you guys are balance whining after Squirtle beat Thorzain? Seriously? And if think 3 base 8 gate is unstoppable watch Polt's Fight Club game against MC on Antiga. He gets enough units out to shut down the initial push and then uses mulipronged attacks with smart dropship play to do tons of damage. Toss might have a big army after 8 gates but without blink/charge/colossi/templar tech stopping mulitpronged drops from doing damage is tough. Th eproblem was the rocks being down, fighting against that push with no bunkers is not possible. | ||
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On June 13 2012 18:51 Drazerk wrote: 3:10 CC from Keen on the way Gumiho getting his OC 4:00 CC from Gumiho on the way along with double gas Keen already taken both his gas and is starting his factory | ||
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rothsbury
Australia1654 Posts
People said (say) that there was art to individual craftsmanship, but now everyone buys cheap and reliable factory stuff. It's just basically division of labour - the song writer writes songs and the band performs them, which is what it was since back before the Beatles made it cool to have the singer/songwriter combined in the band. No reason why a good performer who can't write music can't be paired with a good songwriter who can't sing to give us catchy tunes. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On June 13 2012 18:50 IshinShishi wrote: There really are, there's that famous 6 bunker game vs MC which MVP lost and I've seen MMA lose to so many forms of this allin its not funny.Also, I believe that it's way too hard to hold these pushes/pressures even when prepared, the way to go is possibly early gas, at least Byun had a lot of success with it. so plenty = one " famous game " from a year ago. | ||
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LeLfe
France3160 Posts
On June 13 2012 18:51 Waxangel wrote: sadly fionn isn't here to watch Keen get inevitably raped I like his chances in this series, GuMiHo's never been that good in TvT | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On June 13 2012 18:51 Drazerk wrote: 4:00 CC from Gumiho on the way along with double gas Keen already taken both his gas and is starting his factory 5:30 Factory now starting for Gumiho along with a reactor while Keen gets his starport Both players creating a bunker at their naturals | ||
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architecture
United States643 Posts
You don't scout and react to everything. In fact 1. you can't 2. depending on what, it can be a fake. There is ONE source of truth: that is the timer in the game. That alone dictates what is possible at any given point. Sometimes there is only one thing that is possible because of the map. Sometimes there are 3. Sometimes scouting + time = you can reduce to one possibility. Sometimes scouting + time = you can't do any reduction. Some builds have the ability to adapt very differently to what you see without being too behind. Some builds are behind, and some lose automatically regardless of what you scout. There are BLIND SPOTS in each build's ability to adapt. In the case of 3nex, T doesn't have flexibility if he's doing bio. This is true across the entire matchup, for both races, for most builds. From 330m to 11m, the T build is more or less charted out. The same is true for a 1raxCC cloakshee build - it's charted out. You are committed, regardless of what you see. | ||
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