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ImNightmare
1575 Posts
On June 06 2012 19:36 Dodgin wrote: for his coaching in the individual leagues of course. IM won 5 gsl's last year didn't they? But his decisions in Gstl. man... I find myself with more rage against his choices then a 2 bunker wall in on my ramp | ||
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
It's hard to say hello to someone not in the country :3 | ||
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Orbifold
United States1922 Posts
Sure... you can look at a battle and say... if the vikings were here, if the ghosts were here... but it doesn't really matter so much where the templar are, where the colossus are. It's incumbent on the Terran to have perfect positioning to avoid losing all their DPS, and there's no %chance for Terran to make major subtractions from Protoss DPS. I don't care about balance so much, but it's just not fun to watch. | ||
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Raskit
579 Posts
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Haydin
United States1481 Posts
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Spring/Arena_2#Final_Bracket About that.... | ||
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herbie
140 Posts
On June 06 2012 19:36 RHoudini wrote: This. Alive had plenty of vikings, but just lost them... Doing that is the only thing you can do on open ground , you can't flank or they will blink and outrun your vikings and can choose not to engage the army. | ||
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Heavenlee
United States966 Posts
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pyro19
6575 Posts
On June 06 2012 19:33 pyro19 wrote: Why do terrans except MVP never flank with their vikings...Everygame i see a Terran losing 10 vikings by keeping them ahead of the army , rushing in head on and losing them to stalker micro.. If you keep them more directly over your army you can micro them back and any stalker blink is going into the meatgrinder of your army, if you flank from the side though a blink out leaves your vikings vulnerable and with no army near to support them. Both are useful, you just have to not fuck up =p[/QUOTE] Yeah but The Collosus is still out of Range of the Ground Army when stalkers Blink in , Plus vikings have 10 Range...If you flank and Stalkers blink in , just stim the bio army and Run in... When Attacking Head on , The Collosus just eat away the Ground units that stim in to Take out the stalkers.. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On June 06 2012 19:38 Haydin wrote: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Spring/Arena_2#Final_Bracket About that.... I don't get it they never played each other. never mind didn't look at top 3 bracket at the bottom whoops | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Protoss players available: Seed (Code S), First (Code A), Yongwha (The next protoss Yongjwa) Actually, they also have Ready who took out Moon and Min to make Code A for this season. | ||
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On June 06 2012 19:35 bittman wrote: Didn't watch the games, but I'd like to blame IM coach again. Symbol's weakest MU = ZvP. Protoss players used by IM: 0. Protoss players available: Seed (Code S), First (Code A), Yongwha (The next protoss Yongjwa) Not saying Symbol isn't kicking ass, because that would be a silly thing to say. But really if you're not going to prepare a proper snipe then I don't know what you're doing IM coach. We're not sure how good Seed and Yonghwa's PvZ are. Seed is on and off. Sometimes he's good sometimes he's terrible + he's lost to Symbol before I think. First and Ready were not available. They both aren't on the bench. (for some odd reason) Happy has a proven TvZ records (well prior to recent nerfs) and for all we know YoDa was trained as a TvZ sniper. It's easy to be a couch coach. But what do we really know? | ||
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
On June 06 2012 19:35 bittman wrote: Didn't watch the games, but I'd like to blame IM coach again. Symbol's weakest MU = ZvP. Protoss players used by IM: 0. Protoss players available: Seed (Code S), First (Code A), Yongwha (The next protoss Yongjwa) Not saying Symbol isn't kicking ass, because that would be a silly thing to say. But really if you're not going to prepare a proper snipe then I don't know what you're doing IM coach. I don't think Symbol ZvP is weak. He beat Oz pretty convincely in the GSTL and smash Seed in Code A 2-0 and also beat MC 2-0 at Spring Arena 2. It is just his least played match-up. Yoda was probably sent to sniped to Symbol but he roach/banebusted. Symbol was just on fire. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5260 Posts
On June 06 2012 19:35 bittman wrote: Didn't watch the games, but I'd like to blame IM coach again. Symbol's weakest MU = ZvP. Protoss players used by IM: 0. Protoss players available: Seed (Code S), First (Code A), Yongwha (The next protoss Yongjwa) Not saying Symbol isn't kicking ass, because that would be a silly thing to say. But really if you're not going to prepare a proper snipe then I don't know what you're doing IM coach. According to TLPD it actually seems like his ZvZ is his worst, but I agree, sending terrans to the slaughter (Yoda, Happy), was quite a bad decision. Especially when they have tried and true GSTL Protsses like Seed and Yonghwa. | ||
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polyphonyEX
United States2539 Posts
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ImNightmare
1575 Posts
On June 06 2012 19:39 Heavenlee wrote: Semi-related question...do terrans just...not like ghosts anymore? I really can't remember the last time I watched a templar v ghost war, or a decent amount of EMPs actually landing on a protoss army. If a terran even does make ghosts, it seems they just suicide all of them. It's like after the nerf terrans just now consider EMP completely useless whereas before it would sometimes to completely one-sided engagemets. There were ghost in the last match. -_- what were you watching? Proleague? LOLOLOL, just kidding. | ||
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Frex
Finland888 Posts
On June 06 2012 19:38 Orbifold wrote: The burden of play is so heavily on Terran in the matchup, it's insane... Sure... you can look at a battle and say... if the vikings were here, if the ghosts were here... but it doesn't really matter so much where the templar are, where the colossus are. It's incumbent on the Terran to have perfect positioning to avoid losing all their DPS, and there's no %chance for Terran to make major subtractions from Protoss DPS. I don't care about balance so much, but it's just not fun to watch. Amen. | ||
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nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37076 Posts
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1ManArmy
Netherlands895 Posts
On June 06 2012 19:39 pdd wrote: We're not sure how good Seed and Yonghwa's PvZ are. Seed is on and off. Sometimes he's good sometimes he's terrible + he's lost to Symbol before I think. First was not available. He isn't on the bench. Happy has a proven TvZ records (well prior to recent nerfs) and for all we know YoDa was trained as a TvZ sniper. It's easy to be a couch coach. But what do we really know? I'm a bed coach. | ||
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On June 06 2012 19:39 Dodgin wrote: I don't get it they never played each other. never mind didn't look at top 3 bracket at the bottom whoops Yes they did... But it doesn't matter because MC was jetlagged. | ||
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