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Kahlgar
Profile Joined June 2011
411 Posts
May 27 2012 13:27 GMT
#41
On May 27 2012 22:25 Zheega wrote:
Too bad that Ganzi wasn't in group B, group A is the only group with a better foreigner than him.


he lost against both foreigners in his group tho
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
May 27 2012 13:28 GMT
#42
On May 27 2012 21:29 SeaSwift wrote:
Foreigner bias showing through once more... more people think SaSe will win than Bomber, MC, Violet, Parting or Taeja. LOL

How do you get the idea that the poll results aren't influenced by hope?
FaRess
Profile Joined September 2010
Tunisia937 Posts
May 27 2012 13:31 GMT
#43
On May 27 2012 22:18 Benjamin99 wrote:
People claiming foreigner bias havent watched starcraft for the last 2 months. Sase are really blooddy good and in the current metagame PvT favors the protoss. And then you got Stephano in his best matchup I see no bias here


it's not bias it's always the same thing, people can't compute the fact that a foreigner can be a favorite, their brains are formatted and they can't do shit about it.
YoloStar <3
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46484 Posts
May 27 2012 13:31 GMT
#44
On May 27 2012 22:28 TigerKarl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 21:29 SeaSwift wrote:
Foreigner bias showing through once more... more people think SaSe will win than Bomber, MC, Violet, Parting or Taeja. LOL

How do you get the idea that the poll results aren't influenced by hope?

This is why we need two polls... a head and heart poll.

Who do you think will win vs. Who do you hope will win.

And then possibly a penis poll too, but Sub-Zero got knocked out of the tournament yesterday.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
May 27 2012 13:33 GMT
#45
On May 27 2012 22:28 TigerKarl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 21:29 SeaSwift wrote:
Foreigner bias showing through once more... more people think SaSe will win than Bomber, MC, Violet, Parting or Taeja. LOL

How do you get the idea that the poll results aren't influenced by hope?


I clearly do think they are influenced by hope, which is why I made my comment. If they weren't, the results of the poll would be more realistic and there would be no need to make a comment about it.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
May 27 2012 13:35 GMT
#46
On May 27 2012 22:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 22:18 Benjamin99 wrote:
People claiming foreigner bias havent watched starcraft for the last 2 months. Sase are really blooddy good and in the current metagame PvT favors the protoss. And then you got Stephano in his best matchup I see no bias here


People claiming no foreigner bias haven't been watching the GSL or Koreans The premier league where Sase and Stephano have no actual results.

I agree with you that Sase and Stephano are amazing players, and that they were looking pretty good yesterday, but they're not going to be favored over all the Koreans unless there's at least a little foreigner bias in there.

Also: current TvP metagame does not favor Protoss. Where do you get that information from? Late game slightly favors Protoss, earlier stages favor Terran, overall winrates are balanced. Go check TLPD.

Ladies and Gentleman, here is a fine specimen of starcraftus secundus koreanus biasus

The starcraftus secundus koreanus biasus is a kind of human whose sole purpose in forums is to disagree with people's beliefs and mock them. His main argument is that the GSL, a special environment where koreanus progamii thrive, is the one and only competition and that every foreignus progamus should forced themselves to live in this environment. If they refuse, they are considered lesser progamus and starcraftus secundus koreanus biasus will make sure everyone is kept aware of that brillant truth. Also he will remind everyone that even very successful foreignus progamii are worthless until they pass obscure conditions whose are a mystery to all but a very few starcraftus secundus koreanus biasii blessed by the tetralogy TBLS themselves.

Warning : starcraftus secundus koreanus biasus can be banned if he become too obnoxious.

PS : That particular specimen has proven to be very resilient, do not attack unless sure you will succeed.
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
May 27 2012 13:35 GMT
#47
Korean domination once again. Only reason Sase got through was because only one Korean was in his group. And Stephano always manage to be the only non-korean that worked his way to the championship bracket. There must be a Korean living inside Stephano's hair.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 13:39:04
May 27 2012 13:38 GMT
#48
On May 27 2012 22:35 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 22:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 27 2012 22:18 Benjamin99 wrote:
People claiming foreigner bias havent watched starcraft for the last 2 months. Sase are really blooddy good and in the current metagame PvT favors the protoss. And then you got Stephano in his best matchup I see no bias here


People claiming no foreigner bias haven't been watching the GSL or Koreans The premier league where Sase and Stephano have no actual results.

I agree with you that Sase and Stephano are amazing players, and that they were looking pretty good yesterday, but they're not going to be favored over all the Koreans unless there's at least a little foreigner bias in there.

Also: current TvP metagame does not favor Protoss. Where do you get that information from? Late game slightly favors Protoss, earlier stages favor Terran, overall winrates are balanced. Go check TLPD.

Ladies and Gentleman, here is a fine specimen of starcraftus secundus koreanus biasus

The starcraftus secundus koreanus biasus is a kind of human whose sole purpose in forums is to disagree with people's beliefs and mock them. His main argument is that the GSL, a special environment where koreanus progamii thrive, is the one and only competition and that every foreignus progamus should forced themselves to live in this environment. If they refuse, they are considered lesser progamus and starcraftus secundus koreanus biasus will make sure everyone is kept aware of that brillant truth. Also he will remind everyone that even very successful foreignus progamii are worthless until they pass obscure conditions whose are a mystery to all but a very few starcraftus secundus koreanus biasii blessed by the tetralogy TBLS themselves.

Warning :starcraftus secundus koreanus biasus can be banned if he become too obnoxious.

PS : That particular specimen has proven to be very resilient, do not attack unless sure you will succeed.


I appreciate the effort you put into this post, but are you really suggesting DPB, with his 13827 posts, comes onto the forums specifically to take the piss out of people? You're picking a fight with the wrong person here...
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
May 27 2012 13:39 GMT
#49
A korean Protoss will win for sure. I'd say Squirtle, but you can never count out MC (especially in foreign events) and PartinG is a monster, too.
Demonidze
Profile Joined May 2012
194 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 13:41:29
May 27 2012 13:41 GMT
#50
On May 27 2012 21:37 IPS.Mardow. wrote:
Stephano will win ez pz! :D


Unless he gets drunk again and play in hangover mode.
FaRess
Profile Joined September 2010
Tunisia937 Posts
May 27 2012 13:42 GMT
#51
On May 27 2012 22:38 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 22:35 Otolia wrote:
On May 27 2012 22:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 27 2012 22:18 Benjamin99 wrote:
People claiming foreigner bias havent watched starcraft for the last 2 months. Sase are really blooddy good and in the current metagame PvT favors the protoss. And then you got Stephano in his best matchup I see no bias here


People claiming no foreigner bias haven't been watching the GSL or Koreans The premier league where Sase and Stephano have no actual results.

I agree with you that Sase and Stephano are amazing players, and that they were looking pretty good yesterday, but they're not going to be favored over all the Koreans unless there's at least a little foreigner bias in there.

Also: current TvP metagame does not favor Protoss. Where do you get that information from? Late game slightly favors Protoss, earlier stages favor Terran, overall winrates are balanced. Go check TLPD.

Ladies and Gentleman, here is a fine specimen of starcraftus secundus koreanus biasus

The starcraftus secundus koreanus biasus is a kind of human whose sole purpose in forums is to disagree with people's beliefs and mock them. His main argument is that the GSL, a special environment where koreanus progamii thrive, is the one and only competition and that every foreignus progamus should forced themselves to live in this environment. If they refuse, they are considered lesser progamus and starcraftus secundus koreanus biasus will make sure everyone is kept aware of that brillant truth. Also he will remind everyone that even very successful foreignus progamii are worthless until they pass obscure conditions whose are a mystery to all but a very few starcraftus secundus koreanus biasii blessed by the tetralogy TBLS themselves.

Warning :starcraftus secundus koreanus biasus can be banned if he become too obnoxious.

PS : That particular specimen has proven to be very resilient, do not attack unless sure you will succeed.


I appreciate the effort you put into this post, but are you really suggesting DPB, with his 13827 posts, comes onto the forums specifically to take the piss out of people? You're picking a fight with the wrong person here...


no he is absolutely not, and the 13827 posts you're talking about have built up that foreigners can't win mentality he is talking about in his post
YoloStar <3
jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
May 27 2012 13:45 GMT
#52
On May 27 2012 22:35 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 22:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 27 2012 22:18 Benjamin99 wrote:
People claiming foreigner bias havent watched starcraft for the last 2 months. Sase are really blooddy good and in the current metagame PvT favors the protoss. And then you got Stephano in his best matchup I see no bias here


People claiming no foreigner bias haven't been watching the GSL or Koreans The premier league where Sase and Stephano have no actual results.

I agree with you that Sase and Stephano are amazing players, and that they were looking pretty good yesterday, but they're not going to be favored over all the Koreans unless there's at least a little foreigner bias in there.

Also: current TvP metagame does not favor Protoss. Where do you get that information from? Late game slightly favors Protoss, earlier stages favor Terran, overall winrates are balanced. Go check TLPD.

Ladies and Gentleman, here is a fine specimen of starcraftus secundus koreanus biasus

The starcraftus secundus koreanus biasus is a kind of human whose sole purpose in forums is to disagree with people's beliefs and mock them. His main argument is that the GSL, a special environment where koreanus progamii thrive, is the one and only competition and that every foreignus progamus should forced themselves to live in this environment. If they refuse, they are considered lesser progamus and starcraftus secundus koreanus biasus will make sure everyone is kept aware of that brillant truth. Also he will remind everyone that even very successful foreignus progamii are worthless until they pass obscure conditions whose are a mystery to all but a very few starcraftus secundus koreanus biasii blessed by the tetralogy TBLS themselves.

Warning : starcraftus secundus koreanus biasus can be banned if he become too obnoxious.

PS : That particular specimen has proven to be very resilient, do not attack unless sure you will succeed.



Horrible post, showing your bias.

here let's look at some facts.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_Tournaments
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 13:49:42
May 27 2012 13:48 GMT
#53
On May 27 2012 22:35 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 22:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 27 2012 22:18 Benjamin99 wrote:
People claiming foreigner bias havent watched starcraft for the last 2 months. Sase are really blooddy good and in the current metagame PvT favors the protoss. And then you got Stephano in his best matchup I see no bias here


People claiming no foreigner bias haven't been watching the GSL or Koreans The premier league where Sase and Stephano have no actual results.

I agree with you that Sase and Stephano are amazing players, and that they were looking pretty good yesterday, but they're not going to be favored over all the Koreans unless there's at least a little foreigner bias in there.

Also: current TvP metagame does not favor Protoss. Where do you get that information from? Late game slightly favors Protoss, earlier stages favor Terran, overall winrates are balanced. Go check TLPD.

Ladies and Gentleman, here is a fine specimen of starcraftus secundus koreanus biasus

The starcraftus secundus koreanus biasus is a kind of human whose sole purpose in forums is to disagree with people's beliefs and mock them. His main argument is that the GSL, a special environment where koreanus progamii thrive, is the one and only competition and that every foreignus progamus should forced themselves to live in this environment. If they refuse, they are considered lesser progamus and starcraftus secundus koreanus biasus will make sure everyone is kept aware of that brillant truth. Also he will remind everyone that even very successful foreignus progamii are worthless until they pass obscure conditions whose are a mystery to all but a very few starcraftus secundus koreanus biasii blessed by the tetralogy TBLS themselves.

Warning : starcraftus secundus koreanus biasus can be banned if he become too obnoxious.

PS : That particular specimen has proven to be very resilient, do not attack unless sure you will succeed.


Ladies and Gentlemen, here is a fine specimen of douchus strawmanus ad hominus.

The douchus strawmanus ad hominus is a kind of human whose sole purpose in forums is not to refute others' points, but instead to make terrible jokes, deride others, and claim that they're morally superior by breaking down inaccurate representations of opposing arguments.

I'd keep going, but you're not really worth my time. I never said that the success of the foreigners in the GSL was meaningless. I even root for them over most Koreans, and note that their efforts are incredible. You're really not that funny. 1/5 for effort. Please, just go away.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Meggiroth
Profile Joined March 2012
239 Posts
May 27 2012 13:49 GMT
#54
Parting favourite over Stephano?Rofl. Only MC and Squirtle maybe can actualy compete with stephano right now. MC lost to stephano last mlg arena so it will be really close (untill now mc easily stomped stephano). Dunno about Squirtle's PvZ.
I doubt any terran left in the tournament can beat stephano so in my books I see a Steph vs Squirtle final or MC vs Squirtle if Steph plays mc/squirtle in semifinals and loses.
"He who fishes in other man’s well often catches crabs." - Confucius
jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
May 27 2012 13:50 GMT
#55
On May 27 2012 22:48 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 22:35 Otolia wrote:
On May 27 2012 22:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 27 2012 22:18 Benjamin99 wrote:
People claiming foreigner bias havent watched starcraft for the last 2 months. Sase are really blooddy good and in the current metagame PvT favors the protoss. And then you got Stephano in his best matchup I see no bias here


People claiming no foreigner bias haven't been watching the GSL or Koreans The premier league where Sase and Stephano have no actual results.

I agree with you that Sase and Stephano are amazing players, and that they were looking pretty good yesterday, but they're not going to be favored over all the Koreans unless there's at least a little foreigner bias in there.

Also: current TvP metagame does not favor Protoss. Where do you get that information from? Late game slightly favors Protoss, earlier stages favor Terran, overall winrates are balanced. Go check TLPD.

Ladies and Gentleman, here is a fine specimen of starcraftus secundus koreanus biasus

The starcraftus secundus koreanus biasus is a kind of human whose sole purpose in forums is to disagree with people's beliefs and mock them. His main argument is that the GSL, a special environment where koreanus progamii thrive, is the one and only competition and that every foreignus progamus should forced themselves to live in this environment. If they refuse, they are considered lesser progamus and starcraftus secundus koreanus biasus will make sure everyone is kept aware of that brillant truth. Also he will remind everyone that even very successful foreignus progamii are worthless until they pass obscure conditions whose are a mystery to all but a very few starcraftus secundus koreanus biasii blessed by the tetralogy TBLS themselves.

Warning : starcraftus secundus koreanus biasus can be banned if he become too obnoxious.

PS : That particular specimen has proven to be very resilient, do not attack unless sure you will succeed.


Ladies and Gentlemen, here is a fine specimen of douchus strawmanus ad hominus.

The douchus strawmanus ad hominus is a kind of human whose sole purpose in forums is not to refute others' points, but instead to make terrible jokes, deride others, and claim that they're morally superior by breaking down inaccurate representations of opposing arguments.

I'd keep going, but you're not really worth my time. I never said that the success of the foreigners in the GSL was meaningless. I even root for them over most Koreans, and note that their efforts are incredible. You're really not that funny. 1/5 for effort. Please, just go away.



Dude, there is absolutely nothing wrong with what you said in your previous post. This guy clearly showed his bias.

jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
May 27 2012 13:52 GMT
#56
On May 27 2012 22:49 Meggiroth wrote:
Parting favourite over Stephano?Rofl. Only MC and Squirtle maybe can actualy compete with stephano right now. MC lost to stephano last mlg arena so it will be really close (untill now mc easily stomped stephano). Dunno about Squirtle's PvZ.
I doubt any terran left in the tournament can beat stephano so in my books I see a Steph vs Squirtle final or MC vs Squirtle if Steph plays mc/squirtle in semifinals and loses.



don't know how brackets are, but violet is more than capable of beating stephano and already has..

parting can win too. I'm not doubting Stephano can win either, but to write them off is foolish.

Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
May 27 2012 13:53 GMT
#57
May I remind you that when I answered to your PM your didn't bother to reply DPB ? That would have been a good occasion, but again I'm not worth your time. In fact, I'm sure you consider no one is unless they are of your opinion. What I wrote was light-hearted. I apologize if I hurt you because it wasn't my point.

PS : Derision is a rhetoric method to show how someone's point makes little sense.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 13:56:12
May 27 2012 13:55 GMT
#58
On May 27 2012 22:52 jj33 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 22:49 Meggiroth wrote:
Parting favourite over Stephano?Rofl. Only MC and Squirtle maybe can actualy compete with stephano right now. MC lost to stephano last mlg arena so it will be really close (untill now mc easily stomped stephano). Dunno about Squirtle's PvZ.
I doubt any terran left in the tournament can beat stephano so in my books I see a Steph vs Squirtle final or MC vs Squirtle if Steph plays mc/squirtle in semifinals and loses.



don't know how brackets are, but violet is more than capable of beating stephano and already has..

parting can win too. I'm not doubting Stephano can win either, but to write them off is foolish.



I don't think Violet can face Stephano unless they both reach the finals, so it's likely we'll never see that rematch.

I would say that Squirtle is the only one here who is the favourite against Stephano, which I never thought I would say considering how many Koreans there are here.

On May 27 2012 22:53 Otolia wrote:
May I remind you that when I answered to your PM your didn't bother to reply DPB ? That would have been a good occasion, but again I'm not worth your time. In fact, I'm sure you consider no one is unless they are of your opinion. What I wrote was light-hearted. I apologize if I hurt you because it wasn't my point.

PS : Derision is a rhetoric method to show how someone's point makes little sense.


Take your butthurt to PMs, dude. Nobody else cares that he didn't respond to your messages.
Meggiroth
Profile Joined March 2012
239 Posts
May 27 2012 13:57 GMT
#59
right. violet can beat stephano hungover. What will he do today? Another 10pool?
"He who fishes in other man’s well often catches crabs." - Confucius
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
May 27 2012 13:58 GMT
#60
On May 27 2012 22:33 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2012 22:28 TigerKarl wrote:
On May 27 2012 21:29 SeaSwift wrote:
Foreigner bias showing through once more... more people think SaSe will win than Bomber, MC, Violet, Parting or Taeja. LOL

How do you get the idea that the poll results aren't influenced by hope?


I clearly do think they are influenced by hope, which is why I made my comment. If they weren't, the results of the poll would be more realistic and there would be no need to make a comment about it.


Yeah, too bad we are humans and have feelings.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
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