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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
May 27 2012 23:18 GMT
#3121
On May 28 2012 08:17 Drazerk wrote:
Woot bomber!

why are you a protoss icon now?!
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 27 2012 23:18 GMT
#3122
On May 28 2012 08:17 power-overwhelming wrote:
Double standard so funny here in TL. MC gets the hate for his timing attacks yet every series Squirtle goes for 2 base colo timing all in and TL has no problem with it lol.


Everyone loves the new guy
ShAdZ_ZX
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia635 Posts
May 27 2012 23:18 GMT
#3123
On May 28 2012 08:16 fraktoasters wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:13 redviper wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:10 Azarkon wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:06 redviper wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:04 mrtomjones wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:02 xrapture wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:52 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:48 Gladiator333 wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:48 ZeroSC2 wrote:
Poll: DRG or Stephano now #1 ZvP ?

DRG (85)
 
62%

Stephano (52)
 
38%

137 total votes

Your vote: DRG or Stephano now #1 ZvP ?

(Vote): DRG
(Vote): Stephano



No love for NesTea as well?


Nestea is nowhere near as good as those two vs P

I'd say
Stephano DRG vs toss
Leenock DRG vs terran
Nestea DRG vs zerg

DRG obviously being the best zerg :p viOlet being a third in both ZvP and ZvZ or something.


honestly players like seal, symbol, and curious are better than Stephano in every matchup.

Tournaments like this are so much different than GSL because no one is preparing for Stephano.

I really think he competed in the GSL he would be demolished down to Code B almost immediately.

Making comments like that is pretty ignorant. Until Stephano plays in GSL you wont know if these results will translate over. He is VERY good. I'm not even a huge Stephano fan but anyone saying otherwise is lying to themselves.



Then shouldn't he actually play in the GSL? Whats stopping him. What was the last thing big tourney Stephano won?


The better question is, what was the last big tourney other NA/EU players finished better than Stephano in?



That would be a good question if GSL was only played by NA/EU players. Hint: It isn't. Stephano will get crushed.

The only foreigners who could compete are Thorzain and Naniwa.


Why is Stephano getting this kind of treatment after 2-0 Parting and 2-3 MC.


Why are you taking the BS this kids spouting seriously?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 27 2012 23:18 GMT
#3124
On May 28 2012 08:18 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:17 Drazerk wrote:
Woot bomber!

why are you a protoss icon now?!


ITS AN INFESTED TERRAN!
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
May 27 2012 23:18 GMT
#3125
The consistency of stephano is amazing - look at the results at IPL, MLG and Redbull. He is among the best zergs in the world, saying anything else is just being blind to realities. Okay, you dislike the guy. But look at his placings and the people he beats. He manages to dominate his own scene, the EU/NA, and to compete with the very best Koreans. That is a very impressive feat playing from home, figuring things out by yourself and trying it out on EU-ladder.
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
May 27 2012 23:18 GMT
#3126
On May 28 2012 08:16 fraktoasters wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:13 redviper wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:10 Azarkon wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:06 redviper wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:04 mrtomjones wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:02 xrapture wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:52 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:48 Gladiator333 wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:48 ZeroSC2 wrote:
Poll: DRG or Stephano now #1 ZvP ?

DRG (85)
 
62%

Stephano (52)
 
38%

137 total votes

Your vote: DRG or Stephano now #1 ZvP ?

(Vote): DRG
(Vote): Stephano



No love for NesTea as well?


Nestea is nowhere near as good as those two vs P

I'd say
Stephano DRG vs toss
Leenock DRG vs terran
Nestea DRG vs zerg

DRG obviously being the best zerg :p viOlet being a third in both ZvP and ZvZ or something.


honestly players like seal, symbol, and curious are better than Stephano in every matchup.

Tournaments like this are so much different than GSL because no one is preparing for Stephano.

I really think he competed in the GSL he would be demolished down to Code B almost immediately.

Making comments like that is pretty ignorant. Until Stephano plays in GSL you wont know if these results will translate over. He is VERY good. I'm not even a huge Stephano fan but anyone saying otherwise is lying to themselves.



Then shouldn't he actually play in the GSL? Whats stopping him. What was the last thing big tourney Stephano won?


The better question is, what was the last big tourney other NA/EU players finished better than Stephano in?



That would be a good question if GSL was only played by NA/EU players. Hint: It isn't. Stephano will get crushed.

The only foreigners who could compete are Thorzain and Naniwa.


Why is Stephano getting this kind of treatment after 2-0 Parting and 2-3 MC.


Stephano is ok. He is actually very good. He isn't the best zerg in the world. Stephano fans, like Idra fans, just don't see reason.

Heck MVP playing Zerg is better than Stephano.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
May 27 2012 23:18 GMT
#3127
On May 28 2012 08:17 power-overwhelming wrote:
Double standard so funny here in TL. MC gets the hate for his timing attacks yet every series Squirtle goes for 2 base colo timing all in and TL has no problem with it lol.

Did you not read the thread? Everyone was like: "lol 2-base colo timing, who would've thought?" and "I hate it when Squirtle does this ..."

I don't like Squirtle's timings either or his PvT (prefer Parting's) but he makes PvZ look fun and his PvP is off the hook.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
May 27 2012 23:19 GMT
#3128
On May 28 2012 08:16 Derez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:14 kodas wrote:
That was the first time I have seen someone hold that.

MVP held a version of it on cloud kingdom with tanks vs naniwa or parting?

Best hold I've seen with bio nonetheless.


Yeah, that was probably the best hold I've seen yet. You're right about the MVP game, but it must be said that if NaNi didn't COMPLETELY fuck up his execution, MVP would have gotten rolled given the relative armies at the time, especially on that map. Losing 6 stalkers to indecision and then deciding to commit further to 2 bases cost him.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
May 27 2012 23:19 GMT
#3129
On May 28 2012 08:18 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:18 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:17 Drazerk wrote:
Woot bomber!

why are you a protoss icon now?!


ITS AN INFESTED TERRAN!

i cant even tell
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
May 27 2012 23:19 GMT
#3130
On May 28 2012 08:18 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:18 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:17 Drazerk wrote:
Woot bomber!

why are you a protoss icon now?!


ITS AN INFESTED TERRAN!


wow !
First time I see this one. Gratz.
ps : I want my ghost back.. wraith ain't cool enough
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
May 27 2012 23:19 GMT
#3131
On May 28 2012 08:06 redviper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:04 mrtomjones wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:02 xrapture wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:52 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:48 Gladiator333 wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:48 ZeroSC2 wrote:
Poll: DRG or Stephano now #1 ZvP ?

DRG (85)
 
62%

Stephano (52)
 
38%

137 total votes

Your vote: DRG or Stephano now #1 ZvP ?

(Vote): DRG
(Vote): Stephano



No love for NesTea as well?


Nestea is nowhere near as good as those two vs P

I'd say
Stephano DRG vs toss
Leenock DRG vs terran
Nestea DRG vs zerg

DRG obviously being the best zerg :p viOlet being a third in both ZvP and ZvZ or something.


honestly players like seal, symbol, and curious are better than Stephano in every matchup.

Tournaments like this are so much different than GSL because no one is preparing for Stephano.

I really think he competed in the GSL he would be demolished down to Code B almost immediately.

Making comments like that is pretty ignorant. Until Stephano plays in GSL you wont know if these results will translate over. He is VERY good. I'm not even a huge Stephano fan but anyone saying otherwise is lying to themselves.



Then shouldn't he actually play in the GSL? Whats stopping him. What was the last thing big tourney Stephano won?


Curious lost to Stephano in their most recent matchup. And he won Lone Star Clash, in February? versus Polt, who is a borderline Code S/A player. And look at my earlier post. He also placed 3rd at MLG. MC is in Code S... what was the last big thing that he won? Or Squirtle... or Parting... and yet both those players are amazing.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/players/1996_Stephano

That's plenty of golds in Europe. And quite a few good showings at international events.

Stephano makes more money in Europe than Korea, and for him, gaming is a means for paying for University.
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
ZeroSC2
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)668 Posts
May 27 2012 23:19 GMT
#3132
No one knows Squirtle better than Bomber.

This is gonna get hard for him. I almost see a Bomber MC final incoming.
Flash
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
May 27 2012 23:19 GMT
#3133
On May 28 2012 08:18 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:18 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:17 Drazerk wrote:
Woot bomber!

why are you a protoss icon now?!


ITS AN INFESTED TERRAN!


ROFL, it's /, 0 parts .
MMA: The true King of Wings
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
May 27 2012 23:20 GMT
#3134
On May 28 2012 08:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:18 Drazerk wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:18 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:17 Drazerk wrote:
Woot bomber!

why are you a protoss icon now?!


ITS AN INFESTED TERRAN!

i cant even tell


LOL
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
power-overwhelming
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada306 Posts
May 27 2012 23:20 GMT
#3135
Only reason why Stephano gets hate is because of his fanboys. Look at the pages of Parting vs Stephano in this LR. "Stephano top 3 player", "unstoppable" etc.. I'd be annoyed too if his abusive build gets 20 pages of hype. When he loses though he gets equal treatment of bashing, so fanboys should cry because you wank as much as you get bashed
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
May 27 2012 23:20 GMT
#3136
On May 28 2012 08:17 power-overwhelming wrote:
Double standard so funny here in TL. MC gets the hate for his timing attacks yet every series Squirtle goes for 2 base colo timing all in and TL has no problem with it lol.

Which all in? It was not an attack desgigned to win the game right now. He just lost too much during the attack, but it was not all in.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
May 27 2012 23:21 GMT
#3137
On May 28 2012 08:05 mrtomjones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:04 BlackGosu wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:03 Mentalizor wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:02 JerKy wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:00 SpiZe wrote:
Are koreans really small, or Wheat is really tall ?


I think its both. If the two korean players are Smix's height, they're pretty short, and I'm pretty sure Wheat is a decent height himself, maybe 5'10" or 6'


Am I too scandinavian for saying 6' is not really tall at all? I'm 6'6" and tons of friends (and my brother) are still taller than me

you are TALL. 6'0 is already taller than average

6'0" is quite common where I am from but someone being 6'6" and having "tons" of friends taller than him seems hard to believe


Well "tons" might be off. But 20-30% of my male friends are my height or higher. Which is quite a bit. Obviously next to no girls will ever be this tall. But for starters my big brother is 2-3 inches higher than me. (Well, I'm 199cm and he's 207cm - could someone do precise math? - if it still sounds unlikely I might be confused with weird american non-metric-system)
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 27 2012 23:21 GMT
#3138
On May 28 2012 08:19 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:18 Drazerk wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:18 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:17 Drazerk wrote:
Woot bomber!

why are you a protoss icon now?!


ITS AN INFESTED TERRAN!


ROFL, it's /, 0 parts .


Pretty much sums up how I split up my sc love :D
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
May 27 2012 23:21 GMT
#3139
On May 28 2012 08:21 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:19 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:18 Drazerk wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:18 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:17 Drazerk wrote:
Woot bomber!

why are you a protoss icon now?!


ITS AN INFESTED TERRAN!


ROFL, it's /, 0 parts .


Pretty much sums up how I split up my sc love :D

Hahaha same
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Amornthep
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore2605 Posts
May 27 2012 23:22 GMT
#3140
On May 28 2012 08:19 ZeroSC2 wrote:
No one knows Squirtle better than Bomber.

This is gonna get hard for him. I almost see a Bomber MC final incoming.


That's gonna be epic, I still remember the last time they met in a finals like nearly 2 years ago where MC won 4-3.
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