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SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
May 27 2012 21:50 GMT
#2161
"Stephano has won 100% of his last 10 ZvP tournament series"

Cool, I wouldn't want to be a toss and have to play vs stephano.
MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
May 27 2012 21:50 GMT
#2162
On May 28 2012 06:48 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 06:47 iamthedave wrote:
On May 28 2012 06:44 Logros wrote:
Stephano is so damn good, I don't get how he does it. I don't see Squirtle beating him but I'd like to see him try.


In this case: MC was too aggressive. He kept pushing out when he should have sat back and maxed. 3 base toss v 3 base zerg is a bad situation for the zerg.

MC pushed out with 147 supply against 200.

He was way ahead even before that. But I was pointing more to how Stephano just keeps crushing top Protoss after Protoss like it's nothing.

He thinks that ZvP is imbalanced in favor of Zerg. He even said P might need a buff.
Klipsys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1533 Posts
May 27 2012 21:51 GMT
#2163
On May 28 2012 06:48 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 06:46 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On May 28 2012 06:45 Klipsys wrote:
As someone who doesn’t care one way or the other, I hope stephano gets to the finals: Win or lose the forums are going to be sooooo entertaining for the next few weeks LOL


Maybe if this were a "premier" league. This is an invitational.

still won't stop these threads from being hilarious if stephano beats MC and squirtle. There are already plenty of arguments on the level of Stephano's zvp between fans and haters so this will just probably throw fuel on the fire



But imagine if he loses to Squirtle!!

"SEE HE COULDN'T EVEN BEAT THE HIGHEST ELO IN THE WORLD HE WOULD SUCK SO BAD AT GSL LOLLLL"

Although I believe in a GSL style tournament he wouldn't do nearly as well, the fact remains he as pretty much solidified himself as the best sc2 player outside of Korea....
Hudson Valley Progamer
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
May 27 2012 21:51 GMT
#2164
Poll: Stephano #1 ZvP in the world?

Yes (29)
 
54%

No (25)
 
46%

54 total votes

Your vote: Stephano #1 ZvP in the world?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

MMA: The true King of Wings
Adron
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands839 Posts
May 27 2012 21:51 GMT
#2165
stream is chopping up for me
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
May 27 2012 21:51 GMT
#2166
On May 28 2012 06:48 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 06:47 iamthedave wrote:
On May 28 2012 06:44 Logros wrote:
Stephano is so damn good, I don't get how he does it. I don't see Squirtle beating him but I'd like to see him try.


In this case: MC was too aggressive. He kept pushing out when he should have sat back and maxed. 3 base toss v 3 base zerg is a bad situation for the zerg.

MC pushed out with 147 supply against 200.

He was way ahead even before that. But I was pointing more to how Stephano just keeps crushing top Protoss after Protoss like it's nothing.

It was never 3o3, stephano had hive, he just did not morph the greater spire (he had 2 spires besides) to be able to counter/reinforce, he also had the mineral available to do a spine wall in case MC wanted to delay the push to reach 200, in which case stephano would have had the time to get the BL infestor and MC was very far from the vortex archon toilet.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
May 27 2012 21:52 GMT
#2167
On May 28 2012 06:50 MuseMike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 06:48 Logros wrote:
On May 28 2012 06:47 iamthedave wrote:
On May 28 2012 06:44 Logros wrote:
Stephano is so damn good, I don't get how he does it. I don't see Squirtle beating him but I'd like to see him try.


In this case: MC was too aggressive. He kept pushing out when he should have sat back and maxed. 3 base toss v 3 base zerg is a bad situation for the zerg.

MC pushed out with 147 supply against 200.

He was way ahead even before that. But I was pointing more to how Stephano just keeps crushing top Protoss after Protoss like it's nothing.

He thinks that ZvP is imbalanced in favor of Zerg. He even said P might need a buff.

Pretty funny how every protoss keeps bringing this up. You should mention too, how every terran say protoss is imbalanced yet have no problems against zerg
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
May 27 2012 21:52 GMT
#2168
On May 28 2012 06:50 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 06:49 Wombat_NI wrote:
On May 28 2012 06:48 Logros wrote:
On May 28 2012 06:47 iamthedave wrote:
On May 28 2012 06:44 Logros wrote:
Stephano is so damn good, I don't get how he does it. I don't see Squirtle beating him but I'd like to see him try.


In this case: MC was too aggressive. He kept pushing out when he should have sat back and maxed. 3 base toss v 3 base zerg is a bad situation for the zerg.

MC pushed out with 147 supply against 200.

He was way ahead even before that. But I was pointing more to how Stephano just keeps crushing top Protoss after Protoss like it's nothing.

I'm equally amazed that Stephano (and to a degree DRG) stomp Protoss again and again, and other Zergs just don't.


Stephano doesn't stomp Korean Protoss though. He does well against them sure but he doesn't just stomp them 80% win rate style.

Historically maybe not, and I know Squirtle apparently had a ridiculous record against him on the Korean ladder, but Stephano hasn't played all that many and his previous Korean nemesis MC has got dismantled the last 3 sets

Also where's this 16-0 streak coming from in Stephano's ZvP that people are referencing? Didn't Hero beat him pretty recently in a teamleague Bo3?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
May 27 2012 21:52 GMT
#2169
On May 28 2012 06:50 SpiZe wrote:
"Stephano has won 100% of his last 10 ZvP tournament series"

Cool, I wouldn't want to be a toss and have to play vs stephano.


Most of those games were against foreign Protoss though.
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
May 27 2012 21:52 GMT
#2170
On May 28 2012 06:49 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 06:48 Nouar wrote:
On May 28 2012 06:47 Jetaap wrote:
On May 28 2012 06:46 Dosey wrote:
stephano semi finals/finals replays will be downloaded soooo much O_O


All these BW progamer are probably already downloading Stephano's replays ^^.


Jaedong definitely did lol :p
+ Show Spoiler +
winning his ace match against Lizzy by going Stephano style max out on roach and admitting it in the interview ^^


Do you have a link to the translation, the only one I saw from JD that's translated didn't mention Stephano at all.

Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 06:49 Sleed wrote:
On May 28 2012 06:44 Asha` wrote:
Stephano's resource management is terrible but it doesn't matter.

He got an hatchery sniped...


He was way over 2k mins even before that o-o


He was near max and producing corrupters to smash the collosus
ntssauce
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany750 Posts
May 27 2012 21:52 GMT
#2171
why don't they kill/make him fly away the overlord at the natural? stephano has ALWAYS a overlord there to scout the gasses ..
MMA and Alive you are the best! | Goodbye ST_Sound ~
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
May 27 2012 21:52 GMT
#2172
On May 28 2012 06:52 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 06:50 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 28 2012 06:49 Wombat_NI wrote:
On May 28 2012 06:48 Logros wrote:
On May 28 2012 06:47 iamthedave wrote:
On May 28 2012 06:44 Logros wrote:
Stephano is so damn good, I don't get how he does it. I don't see Squirtle beating him but I'd like to see him try.


In this case: MC was too aggressive. He kept pushing out when he should have sat back and maxed. 3 base toss v 3 base zerg is a bad situation for the zerg.

MC pushed out with 147 supply against 200.

He was way ahead even before that. But I was pointing more to how Stephano just keeps crushing top Protoss after Protoss like it's nothing.

I'm equally amazed that Stephano (and to a degree DRG) stomp Protoss again and again, and other Zergs just don't.


Stephano doesn't stomp Korean Protoss though. He does well against them sure but he doesn't just stomp them 80% win rate style.

Historically maybe not, and I know Squirtle apparently had a ridiculous record against him on the Korean ladder, but Stephano hasn't played all that many and his previous Korean nemesis MC has got dismantled the last 3 sets

Also where's this 16-0 streak coming from in Stephano's ZvP that people are referencing? Didn't Hero beat him pretty recently in a teamleague Bo3?


TakeTV invitational, mostly.
Klipsys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1533 Posts
May 27 2012 21:52 GMT
#2173
On May 28 2012 06:51 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Poll: Stephano #1 ZvP in the world?

Yes (29)
 
54%

No (25)
 
46%

54 total votes

Your vote: Stephano #1 ZvP in the world?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No




I can't commit to this just yet but it's pretty determined he's the best ZVP outside of the big K
Hudson Valley Progamer
SealOverseer
Profile Joined May 2012
Netherlands159 Posts
May 27 2012 21:53 GMT
#2174
2010, we meet again
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
May 27 2012 21:53 GMT
#2175
On May 28 2012 06:52 Klipsys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 06:51 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Poll: Stephano #1 ZvP in the world?

Yes (29)
 
54%

No (25)
 
46%

54 total votes

Your vote: Stephano #1 ZvP in the world?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No




I can't commit to this just yet but it's pretty determined he's the best ZVP outside of the big K

Best outside of Korea.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
May 27 2012 21:53 GMT
#2176
SO! MUCH! LAG!
NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
May 27 2012 21:53 GMT
#2177
Stephano is dead.
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
May 27 2012 21:54 GMT
#2178
bosstoss, when in doubt 2-base-7-gate.
#1 Grubby Fan.
ntssauce
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany750 Posts
May 27 2012 21:54 GMT
#2179
On May 28 2012 06:53 geokilla wrote:
SO! MUCH! LAG!

watch stream 2
MMA and Alive you are the best! | Goodbye ST_Sound ~
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
May 27 2012 21:54 GMT
#2180
MC picking Ohana so he can all-in better...
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
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