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-Exalt-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States972 Posts
May 20 2012 04:57 GMT
#1721
On May 20 2012 13:51 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 13:50 -Exalt- wrote:
i hope only-BW fans don't look at this game and generalize SC2, at the highest level this immortal timing is not very good if scouted, generally PvZs right now end up with fast 3rd bases from the protoss and mass broodlord/infestor with zerg..

what are you talking about? that immortal timing is really good ._.


it's good, but i wouldn't say 2 base all ins dominate the PvZ matchup at all right now.
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
May 20 2012 04:57 GMT
#1722
It's time to watch the all-time greatest progaming team KT!
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
May 20 2012 04:57 GMT
#1723
On May 20 2012 13:56 IshinShishi wrote:
This game jaedong showed impeccable macro and decent micro, he lost because of simple but essential things like (non-existant) creep spread and allowing his army to get forcefielded off, a simple flank on creep and sun would've turned into blue goo.

Yea jaedong really didn't look too shabby actually. His decision making was off but honestly can anyone say that's not to be expected this early on?
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
May 20 2012 04:57 GMT
#1724
On May 20 2012 13:55 MrHoon wrote:
it's like jaedong had the micro and macro for starcraft 2 but had no idea how the game worked

That's how I felt too :/
Burrow moving the roaches out in the open, attacking straight up a blocked narrow ramp, burrowing through a ton of forcefields and losing half of his retreating force without doing damage. It seems like his main issue is lack of familiarity with FFs.
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
May 20 2012 04:57 GMT
#1725
On May 20 2012 13:55 MrHoon wrote:
it's like jaedong had the micro and macro for starcraft 2 but had no idea how the game worked

This is to be expected. Mechanically, the BW pros are amazing, but as you would expect, their game sense is miles behind.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
May 20 2012 04:57 GMT
#1726
On May 20 2012 13:56 Dodgin wrote:
CJ vs KT next. will flash play bw or sc2? we'll see :o

If he plays in SC2 then he can play BW for ace, so I would expect to see him in SC2
:)
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
May 20 2012 04:57 GMT
#1727
Sun ouplayed JD badly, outclassed him

JD didn't unpower the warpgates, key in that situation, and what top sc2 pros do.
Then the roach massive suicide. Top sc2 players see the blurry observer and will never go that blindly into a ramp.
Also pretty late burrow movement research.
Chicken gank op
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
May 20 2012 04:58 GMT
#1728
On May 20 2012 13:56 Shaoling wrote:
I think were going to have to coin a new term. gsl koreans and osl koreans.


This, only for a season or two though
No Artosis, you are robin
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
May 20 2012 04:58 GMT
#1729
On May 20 2012 13:56 Shaoling wrote:
I think were going to have to coin a new term. gsl koreans and osl koreans.


Why? Both will kill foreigners :D
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
May 20 2012 04:58 GMT
#1730
On May 20 2012 13:56 Trizz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 13:55 MrHoon wrote:
it's like jaedong had the micro and macro for starcraft 2 but had no idea how the game worked


THIS EXACTLY.
People saying he played bad only looked at how he lost.
JD had top notch macro and micro but made horrible decisions.

Yes, he also didn't seem to know what composition to use, where to tech to, he just looked like his game knowledge is lacking, which is to be expected. It looks like Sun's been practicing SC2 quite a bit
Bebop07
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States291 Posts
May 20 2012 04:58 GMT
#1731
On May 20 2012 13:56 Dodgin wrote:
CJ vs KT next. will flash play bw or sc2? we'll see :o
Hope he plays BW and there's some high quality long games of it to show people how amazing the game is.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
May 20 2012 04:58 GMT
#1732
On May 20 2012 13:52 Chicane wrote:
Poor Jaedong.

And now we await the tweet from IdrA. :D


I'm a bit late, but there it is as I expected...

http://twitter.com/#!/idrajit/status/204072030071558144

EcksperT
Profile Joined August 2010
United States35 Posts
May 20 2012 04:58 GMT
#1733
thats just one of those situations you need to play through hundreds of times before you can defend it perfectly without fail. with this season's format the way it is with both games and how little time they have had to practice sc2 i guess this kind of thing should be expected. after he lost his nat and 3rd he made bad decisions for sure.. but he probably panicked when he got that far behind. his counter attack did some damage - he would have been better taking a 2nd and 3rd while preventing protoss from taking a 3rd of his own.. trying to fight back. instead he attacked with pure roach up a walled ramp into stalker/immortal/sentry and got destroyed.
help me get better
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
May 20 2012 04:58 GMT
#1734
On May 20 2012 13:57 Popkiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 13:56 IshinShishi wrote:
This game jaedong showed impeccable macro and decent micro, he lost because of simple but essential things like (non-existant) creep spread and allowing his army to get forcefielded off, a simple flank on creep and sun would've turned into blue goo.


creep spread is part of macro.

Only if you know about it, July didn't recognize that for multiple seasons.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
May 20 2012 04:59 GMT
#1735
On May 20 2012 13:54 dragonborn wrote:
IdrA just tweeted it, looooool

Greg Fields ‏@idrajit
Even jaedong can't win with sc2 zerg


lol, that's the best he could do anyway. Who is IdrA if he doesn't whine about balance?
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
May 20 2012 04:59 GMT
#1736
On May 20 2012 13:55 NHY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 13:51 ZjiublingZ wrote:
On May 20 2012 13:51 NHY wrote:
It was over the moment Sun moved out to attack JD. He droned too much.


68 drones is only about 3 more than Stephano uses to crush that attack, he didn't really overdrone. He got too much gas.


You can't judge whether he overdroned or not by only looking at the number of drones made. He was about 1 inject cycle behind in roach/ling.

68 drones is way too much, especially versus this very efficient version of the immortal all-in. Also because I suspect jaedong doesn't have perfect sc2 macro yet.
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corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
May 20 2012 04:59 GMT
#1737
On May 20 2012 13:57 synapse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 13:56 Dodgin wrote:
CJ vs KT next. will flash play bw or sc2? we'll see :o

If he plays in SC2 then he can play BW for ace, so I would expect to see him in SC2

I expect him in SC2 for OSL schedule reasons.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
May 20 2012 04:59 GMT
#1738
That's one badass rack, jesus.
Anime is cuter than you. Legacy of the Void GM Protoss Gameplay: twitch.tv/kyo7763 youtube.com/user/KyoStarcraft/
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Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
May 20 2012 04:59 GMT
#1739
On May 20 2012 13:58 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 13:56 Shaoling wrote:
I think were going to have to coin a new term. gsl koreans and osl koreans.


Why? Both will kill foreigners :D


so far all of these guys would have lost to top foreigners.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50209 Posts
May 20 2012 04:59 GMT
#1740
KT ROLSTER FIGHTING!
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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