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On May 20 2012 13:51 Plexa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 13:50 -Exalt- wrote: i hope only-BW fans don't look at this game and generalize SC2, at the highest level this immortal timing is not very good if scouted, generally PvZs right now end up with fast 3rd bases from the protoss and mass broodlord/infestor with zerg.. what are you talking about? that immortal timing is really good ._.
it's good, but i wouldn't say 2 base all ins dominate the PvZ matchup at all right now.
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It's time to watch the all-time greatest progaming team KT!
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On May 20 2012 13:56 IshinShishi wrote: This game jaedong showed impeccable macro and decent micro, he lost because of simple but essential things like (non-existant) creep spread and allowing his army to get forcefielded off, a simple flank on creep and sun would've turned into blue goo. Yea jaedong really didn't look too shabby actually. His decision making was off but honestly can anyone say that's not to be expected this early on?
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On May 20 2012 13:55 MrHoon wrote:it's like jaedong had the micro and macro for starcraft 2 but had no idea how the game worked  That's how I felt too :/ Burrow moving the roaches out in the open, attacking straight up a blocked narrow ramp, burrowing through a ton of forcefields and losing half of his retreating force without doing damage. It seems like his main issue is lack of familiarity with FFs.
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On May 20 2012 13:55 MrHoon wrote:it's like jaedong had the micro and macro for starcraft 2 but had no idea how the game worked  This is to be expected. Mechanically, the BW pros are amazing, but as you would expect, their game sense is miles behind.
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On May 20 2012 13:56 Dodgin wrote: CJ vs KT next. will flash play bw or sc2? we'll see :o If he plays in SC2 then he can play BW for ace, so I would expect to see him in SC2
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Sun ouplayed JD badly, outclassed him
JD didn't unpower the warpgates, key in that situation, and what top sc2 pros do. Then the roach massive suicide. Top sc2 players see the blurry observer and will never go that blindly into a ramp. Also pretty late burrow movement research.
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On May 20 2012 13:56 Shaoling wrote: I think were going to have to coin a new term. gsl koreans and osl koreans.
This, only for a season or two though
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On May 20 2012 13:56 Shaoling wrote: I think were going to have to coin a new term. gsl koreans and osl koreans.
Why? Both will kill foreigners :D
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On May 20 2012 13:56 Trizz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 13:55 MrHoon wrote:it's like jaedong had the micro and macro for starcraft 2 but had no idea how the game worked  THIS EXACTLY. People saying he played bad only looked at how he lost. JD had top notch macro and micro but made horrible decisions. Yes, he also didn't seem to know what composition to use, where to tech to, he just looked like his game knowledge is lacking, which is to be expected. It looks like Sun's been practicing SC2 quite a bit
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On May 20 2012 13:56 Dodgin wrote: CJ vs KT next. will flash play bw or sc2? we'll see :o Hope he plays BW and there's some high quality long games of it to show people how amazing the game is.
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thats just one of those situations you need to play through hundreds of times before you can defend it perfectly without fail. with this season's format the way it is with both games and how little time they have had to practice sc2 i guess this kind of thing should be expected. after he lost his nat and 3rd he made bad decisions for sure.. but he probably panicked when he got that far behind. his counter attack did some damage - he would have been better taking a 2nd and 3rd while preventing protoss from taking a 3rd of his own.. trying to fight back. instead he attacked with pure roach up a walled ramp into stalker/immortal/sentry and got destroyed.
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On May 20 2012 13:57 Popkiller wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 13:56 IshinShishi wrote: This game jaedong showed impeccable macro and decent micro, he lost because of simple but essential things like (non-existant) creep spread and allowing his army to get forcefielded off, a simple flank on creep and sun would've turned into blue goo. creep spread is part of macro. Only if you know about it, July didn't recognize that for multiple seasons.
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On May 20 2012 13:54 dragonborn wrote: IdrA just tweeted it, looooool
Greg Fields @idrajit Even jaedong can't win with sc2 zerg
lol, that's the best he could do anyway. Who is IdrA if he doesn't whine about balance?
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On May 20 2012 13:55 NHY wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 13:51 ZjiublingZ wrote:On May 20 2012 13:51 NHY wrote: It was over the moment Sun moved out to attack JD. He droned too much. 68 drones is only about 3 more than Stephano uses to crush that attack, he didn't really overdrone. He got too much gas. You can't judge whether he overdroned or not by only looking at the number of drones made. He was about 1 inject cycle behind in roach/ling. 68 drones is way too much, especially versus this very efficient version of the immortal all-in. Also because I suspect jaedong doesn't have perfect sc2 macro yet.
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On May 20 2012 13:57 synapse wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 13:56 Dodgin wrote: CJ vs KT next. will flash play bw or sc2? we'll see :o If he plays in SC2 then he can play BW for ace, so I would expect to see him in SC2 I expect him in SC2 for OSL schedule reasons.
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That's one badass rack, jesus.
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On May 20 2012 13:58 windsupernova wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2012 13:56 Shaoling wrote: I think were going to have to coin a new term. gsl koreans and osl koreans. Why? Both will kill foreigners :D
so far all of these guys would have lost to top foreigners.
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