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mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
May 20 2012 04:54 GMT
#1681
Needed more zerglings, but I think JD would still have lost. With that amount of sentries only infestors will save you, the initial push really had an absurd amount of sentries.

I'm also nicely surprised by the good observer numbers, not usual for SC2
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
May 20 2012 04:54 GMT
#1682
I thought he was going to take that army with 4-5 groups of roaches in the middle of the map, and that it was going to be an absolutely nasty surround, but then he just countered with a few of them and hid the rest in his main and got destroyed.
StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
May 20 2012 04:54 GMT
#1683
So this should put to rest any discussion on how much time and effort is needed to learn to execute a 2 base all in vs zerg vs how much it takes to learn to defend it.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
May 20 2012 04:54 GMT
#1684
People should cut JD some slack. That's one of the strongest timings in the game right now, and it's easier to execute than to hold off well, especially if you've just practiced doing that single build over and over.

He'll be fine, just needs a bit more time to learn the ins and outs.
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
May 20 2012 04:54 GMT
#1685
Wonder whether Flash will be playing BW or SC2
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 20 2012 04:54 GMT
#1686
Well... that was awkward.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
May 20 2012 04:54 GMT
#1687
IdrA just tweeted it, looooool

Greg Fields ‏@idrajit
Even jaedong can't win with sc2 zerg

SgtCoDFish
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1520 Posts
May 20 2012 04:54 GMT
#1688
Haha, looks like Jaedong hasn't played a crazy amount of SC2. Pretty nice that he split little groups of roaches up to attack different areas, but pure roach really wasn't going to cut it there. Shame, but hey, the only way is up :D
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
May 20 2012 04:54 GMT
#1689
On May 20 2012 13:53 Rinrun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 13:51 Lightswarm wrote:
today we learned, roaches suck balls

Mondragon.


Also: Stephano. "To win ZvP, all you have to do is press br"
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
May 20 2012 04:54 GMT
#1690
LOL @ IdrA on twitter (Greg Fields ‏@idrajit)

Even jaedong can't win with sc2 zerg
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
May 20 2012 04:54 GMT
#1691
wow must be such a bad feeling for these guys to have Brood War essentially taken from them and all they have left is this new game they're completely uncomfortable with. big uphill battle.
slicknav
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
May 20 2012 04:54 GMT
#1692
clearly these guys need a lot more time on SC2.
blah blah blah...
PhoenixDark
Profile Joined March 2011
United States286 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 04:55:27
May 20 2012 04:54 GMT
#1693
Jaedong started off well enough; his third was a bit late, but not enough to matter given what his opponent was doing. He completely botched the response to the 6 gate though, despite scouting it. That Immortal build is basically a counter to Stephano's heavy Roach attack, but a strong zerg push could have still overwhelmed it

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=435469
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
May 20 2012 04:54 GMT
#1694
I know that feel Jaedong.

I know that feel.

Immortals.
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
May 20 2012 04:54 GMT
#1695
On May 20 2012 13:54 dragonborn wrote:
IdrA just tweeted it, looooool

Greg Fields ‏@idrajit
Even jaedong can't win with sc2 zerg


LMFAO. Tell that to Stephano.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 05:02:48
May 20 2012 04:54 GMT
#1696
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p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
May 20 2012 04:55 GMT
#1697
This push is really holdable. JD just needs more practice
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
May 20 2012 04:55 GMT
#1698
On May 20 2012 13:54 Silentness wrote:
LOL @ IdrA on twitter (Greg Fields ‏@idrajit)

Show nested quote +
Even jaedong can't win with sc2 zerg

Haha, Idra trolling hard, thats awesome.
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8477 Posts
May 20 2012 04:55 GMT
#1699
On May 20 2012 13:54 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 13:52 NrGmonk wrote:
Yes, the immortal all-in has been very common lately in ZvP. But that EXACT build, which is the most clean/efficient version of an immortal all-in that I've ever found, was just used and introduced by MVPGenius in the GSL last Tuesday vs BbongbbongPrime in the up and down matches. I suspect By.Sun saw that game and copied/ripped that build from him.


Round of 24*; Up & Down hasn't been played yet.

Thx
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NHY
Profile Joined October 2010
1013 Posts
May 20 2012 04:55 GMT
#1700
On May 20 2012 13:51 ZjiublingZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 13:51 NHY wrote:
It was over the moment Sun moved out to attack JD. He droned too much.


68 drones is only about 3 more than Stephano uses to crush that attack, he didn't really overdrone. He got too much gas.


You can't judge whether he overdroned or not by only looking at the number of drones made. He was about 1 inject cycle behind in roach/ling.
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