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McKTenor13
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1383 Posts
May 20 2012 17:27 GMT
#6141
I was so skeptical about this format going in to it, but it turns out i absolutely love it! I've never really watched Brood War, but I am now and I am getting an understanding and more appreciation for how great of a game it is as well as watching the Sc2 I love. I look forward to watching Proleague every week!
If you can chill. chill. - Liquid'Tyler
Synystyr
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1446 Posts
May 20 2012 17:29 GMT
#6142
Wow every single Protoss in SC2 won except for FBH. Brood war players sticking to their guns about Protoss being OP and backing it up haha.
Sky Terran TvP V2.0: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355839
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
May 20 2012 17:30 GMT
#6143
A little off topic but anyone else notice liquibet has CJ/KT as being won by CJ?
NippIeLuv
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada13 Posts
May 20 2012 17:33 GMT
#6144
OH MY GOD free vods! So awesome :D
MULE XING
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8031 Posts
May 20 2012 17:37 GMT
#6145
On May 21 2012 01:11 JSy wrote:
The VODs not being in order on http://www.youtube.com/esportstv was annoying me. Here they are in order and spoiler-free.

+ Show Spoiler +
SK Telecom T1 vs Team 8

1st half. Brood War

Fantasy (T) vs Jaehoon (P) on Neo Jade
n.Die_soO (Z) vs Sea (T) on Neo Ground Zero
Bisu (P) vs Movie (P) on Neo Electric Circuit

2nd half. StarCraft 2

BeSt (P) vs Sang (aka terminator) (P) on Entombed Valley
Rain (aka By.Sun) (P) vs Jaedong (Z) on Ohana
YeOngJae (T) vs BaBy (T) on Antiga Shipyard
Ace match
+ Show Spoiler +
not played

___

CJ Entus vs KT

1st half. Brood War

Horang2 (P) vs Stats (P) on Neo Jade
Leta (T) vs Wooki (P) on Neo Ground Zero
Hydra (Z) vs Crazy-Hydra (Z) on Neo Electric Circuit

2nd half. StarCraft 2

BByong (T) vs Motive (P) on Entombed Valley
herO(jOin) (P) vs BarrackS (T) on Ohana
EffOrt (Z) vs Flash (T) on Antiga Shipyard
Ace match
+ Show Spoiler +
EffOrt (Z) vs Motive (P) on Cloud Kingdom

___

Air Force ACE vs Samsung KHAN

1st half. Brood War

Great (Z) vs Juni (Z) on Neo Ground Zero
Kal (P) vs TurN (T) on New Sniper Ridge
Peace (Z) vs Stork (P) on Neo Jade


2nd half. StarCraft 2

StarDust (P) vs Roro (Z) on Ohana
Iris (T) vs Jangbi (P) on Cloud Kingdom
firebathero (P) vs Reality (T) on Entombed Valley
Ace match
+ Show Spoiler +
not played

___

STX Soul vs Woongjin Stars

1st half. Brood War

Calm (Z) vs Light (T) on Neo Ground Zero
mini (P) vs Zero (Z) on New Sniper Ridge
Last (T) vs free (P) on Neo Jade

2nd half. StarCraft 2

Bogus (T) vs sHy (P) on Ohana
Trap (P) vs Neo.G_Soulkey (Z) on Cloud Kingdom
Classic (T) vs Flying (P) on Entombed Valley
Ace match
+ Show Spoiler +
not played

While it's pretty cool of you to do this, the Small VOD Thread exists for this very reason.
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niwhsa
Profile Joined August 2011
United States50 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 17:40:51
May 20 2012 17:40 GMT
#6146
so, the total win as per race for Starcraft 2:
P: 10 wins
Z: 1 win
T: 1 win
:D
edit: forgot to mention its for sc2
T: IM_Mvp | Z: IM_Nestea | P: LiquidHero
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
May 20 2012 17:47 GMT
#6147
On May 21 2012 02:40 niwhsa wrote:
so, the total win as per race for Starcraft 2:
P: 10 wins
Z: 1 win
T: 1 win
:D
edit: forgot to mention its for sc2


Well its not that the protoss played better but the other races played far worse.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 17:52:07
May 20 2012 17:47 GMT
#6148
On May 21 2012 00:52 pdd wrote:
Any recommended games?

I've watched JD vs Sun, Flash vs Effort, FBH vs Reality, Effort vs Motive and Roro vs Stardust. Any other recommended games?

And based on today's games, does anyone really look like a really good SC2 player at the moment (looks like Effort and Motive are like really good)

Lizzy vs BByong and Lizzy vs Effort were rather good games. Lizzy showed some nice mechanics in sc2 (he loves smart casting of sc2)

And if you wonder Lizzy is Motive

Oh and Stardust vs Roro . . . The end game was insane ^^ (not spoiling much.... lots of .... units that will be out in HoTs)
Diizzy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States828 Posts
May 20 2012 17:51 GMT
#6149
watching all my favorite players lose was heartbreaking...

greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
May 20 2012 17:53 GMT
#6150
Did anyone notice the stargate and fleet beacon in Effort vs Motive game? >_<
Seiferz
Profile Joined May 2011
United States640 Posts
May 20 2012 17:53 GMT
#6151
On May 20 2012 23:06 LloydPGM wrote:
Classic TvP to finish, terran played well but you can't win a protoss with 200/200 army, so P still undefeated in this SPL. To all BW players going to play sc2, just pick protoss : easy race to master.


its the easiest race to win with if you played for a month. that wont mean anything in a few months, and particularly next season when everyone will be focusing on practicing sc2. no one should take anything significant from the results today.
takingbackoj
Profile Joined December 2010
United States684 Posts
May 20 2012 18:16 GMT
#6152
On May 21 2012 02:53 Seiferz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 23:06 LloydPGM wrote:
Classic TvP to finish, terran played well but you can't win a protoss with 200/200 army, so P still undefeated in this SPL. To all BW players going to play sc2, just pick protoss : easy race to master.


its the easiest race to win with if you played for a month. that wont mean anything in a few months, and particularly next season when everyone will be focusing on practicing sc2. no one should take anything significant from the results today.

Agreed. It will take time for the T an Z players to figure out the exact timings and how to react to not just flat out die to the simple powerful toss strats out there. No doubt they will improve a lot over the next few months the more they ladder and gain experience.
Get the hell outta here Der Beek, your'e ruining my moment.
LloydPGM
Profile Joined January 2012
85 Posts
May 20 2012 18:18 GMT
#6153
On May 21 2012 02:53 Seiferz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 23:06 LloydPGM wrote:
Classic TvP to finish, terran played well but you can't win a protoss with 200/200 army, so P still undefeated in this SPL. To all BW players going to play sc2, just pick protoss : easy race to master.


its the easiest race to win with if you played for a month. that wont mean anything in a few months, and particularly next season when everyone will be focusing on practicing sc2. no one should take anything significant from the results today.


We agree : I said Protoss is the easiest race to master/learn, I didn't say it was the most powerfull.
If we debate about balance issues, I would say the game is balanced, the imbalance comes from the management of each race : it's harder to manage a terran kiting bioball than a protoss deathball in my opinion.
http://video.gamecreds.com/1mggimrsyxc0n/channel/Lloyd
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
May 20 2012 18:37 GMT
#6154
On May 21 2012 03:18 LloydPGM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 02:53 Seiferz wrote:
On May 20 2012 23:06 LloydPGM wrote:
Classic TvP to finish, terran played well but you can't win a protoss with 200/200 army, so P still undefeated in this SPL. To all BW players going to play sc2, just pick protoss : easy race to master.


its the easiest race to win with if you played for a month. that wont mean anything in a few months, and particularly next season when everyone will be focusing on practicing sc2. no one should take anything significant from the results today.


We agree : I said Protoss is the easiest race to master/learn, I didn't say it was the most powerfull.
If we debate about balance issues, I would say the game is balanced, the imbalance comes from the management of each race : it's harder to manage a terran kiting bioball than a protoss deathball in my opinion.


Well, I would say protoss is the most straightforward race but it isn't the easiest to master. The problem is that the Zerg players aren't prepared well to defend 2 base timings and also aren't able to take advantage of their inherently more powerful macro and weaker protoss macro.

Other than the immortal timing in the first sc2 game the protoss weren't doing anything special. In fact they were just playing better in general. I mean if you look at the mass air game that was just an example of doing a strategy well and the zerg responding poorly and engaging badly.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
May 20 2012 18:42 GMT
#6155
On May 20 2012 23:30 Greentellon wrote:
Feedback based on today:

As a SC2 fan, I feel like PL really really REALLY needs an English stream. I often use SC2 matches as background noises and when watching PL, I often suddenly noticed that match had already started a long ago. Also BW is almost unwatchable for me without English casting. I don't know who the players are, I don't know the metagame etc. In all this a caster would help, but now I'm left to just watching what happens.

This almost felt like watching random players ladder. If they had casters I could understand, it wouldn't have felt that way I think.


There were multiple restreams available for English casting and OGN has already stated they would be finding English casters. Teamliquid set up a wonderful article on describing each game in fairly good detail about early/mid/late game for each matchup's current metagame. Just stop being lazy and do some research yourself and you would have been fine.

As for Korean vs. English, I like the Korean casting far more as they are A. more exciting and B. not so obnoxious when the game is clearly over. They don't sit around going "well that's a gg" for 10 minutes before the actual end of the game.
In Inca we trust
TORTOISE
Profile Joined December 2010
United States515 Posts
May 20 2012 18:45 GMT
#6156
On May 21 2012 02:33 NippIeLuv wrote:
OH MY GOD free vods! So awesome :D


THIS! Im happy that the monetization of esports hasn't put a paywall between us and this wonderful league!
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Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
May 20 2012 18:47 GMT
#6157
Interesting results. Expected though.
Head Coach Park: "They should buff tanks!"
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 18:54:33
May 20 2012 18:51 GMT
#6158
Man sad to see Flash lose =/.

And what's up with the protoss domination ^^ (SC2)
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
Kammalleri
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada613 Posts
May 20 2012 19:23 GMT
#6159
Thanks guys it was a blast last night, I somehow felt asleep right before Flash's game. Freaking never ending commercials. Looking forward to see more of those out of you guys.The format was aawesome too even if all my knowledge fom bw is TSL 2. It's such an awesome games and Sayle had really good insight of the games.

Really appreciated the show!
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
May 20 2012 19:24 GMT
#6160
It was kinda sad to see Jaedong struggling a lot with forcefields... But that's just something people will eventually learn.
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