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Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
May 20 2012 08:46 GMT
#4121
Flash and Jaedong lost......




Not surprising, once again, they've hardly played. Effort's macro was ballin.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
May 20 2012 08:46 GMT
#4122
I thought Lizzy played amazingly well. Not in terms of the GSL, which none of these players should be compared heavily to, but just compared to the other nine or so players who have played SC2 today. He showed the most understand, and while be sloppy, the best micro from anyone. Effort was good, too.

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NoGasfOu
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1117 Posts
May 20 2012 08:46 GMT
#4123
So many gold leaguers trying to be smart in here.
Tassadar/TheBest/Jjakji/Rain(terran)/Heart
nastyyy
Profile Joined December 2009
United States262 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 08:47:23
May 20 2012 08:46 GMT
#4124
ZvP just hurts to watch sometimes. Effort played pretty damn well in my opinion. All the Protoss did is just walk up before Effort gets Broodlords out.
one time
ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
May 20 2012 08:46 GMT
#4125
On May 20 2012 17:44 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:42 Seiferz wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:40 WniO wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:39 Angra wrote:
I don't watch much SC2.. are most games decided like that in 1 engagement? Pretty boring :/

a lot of them are, but these bw players play a lot more passive than usual, but it depends on the matchup. tvz is almost always pressure non stop, where zvp is timing based and trading armies.


if you watch GSL its a lot more dynamic. watching this is like watching sc2 half a year ago.

I dunno. Half a year ago, I watched DRG and MMA face off on Shakuras in one of the best games in SC2 history :>


more like due to map design its impossible for DRG to touch 2 free bases for MMA. such a silly game
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Irratonalys
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany902 Posts
May 20 2012 08:47 GMT
#4126
Not a single Colossus made in these games so far, and we're halfway through todays matches. I wonder if BW players have something against the unit.


well , it doesent hold a candle to the reaver.
The futures uncertain , but the end is always near
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
May 20 2012 08:47 GMT
#4127
Yo, just woke up. How'd flash do?
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
May 20 2012 08:47 GMT
#4128
On May 20 2012 17:45 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:42 Seiferz wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:40 WniO wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:39 Angra wrote:
I don't watch much SC2.. are most games decided like that in 1 engagement? Pretty boring :/

a lot of them are, but these bw players play a lot more passive than usual, but it depends on the matchup. tvz is almost always pressure non stop, where zvp is timing based and trading armies.


if you watch GSL its a lot more dynamic. watching this is like watching sc2 half a year ago.


In GSL you prepare for a specific player. Here you have to prepare.for the match up as a whole - you don't know who you're playing.

Watch MC in MLGs. He plays the same styles as Lizzy, which I think is where Lizzy took his builds from.


MC is a more good macro -> deathball style though. He doesn't play that turtle-y, but doesn't go for small armies with multiprong attacks etc.
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cablesc
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1540 Posts
May 20 2012 08:47 GMT
#4129
On May 20 2012 17:46 ThePlayer33 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:44 Kiett wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:42 Seiferz wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:40 WniO wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:39 Angra wrote:
I don't watch much SC2.. are most games decided like that in 1 engagement? Pretty boring :/

a lot of them are, but these bw players play a lot more passive than usual, but it depends on the matchup. tvz is almost always pressure non stop, where zvp is timing based and trading armies.


if you watch GSL its a lot more dynamic. watching this is like watching sc2 half a year ago.

I dunno. Half a year ago, I watched DRG and MMA face off on Shakuras in one of the best games in SC2 history :>


more like due to map design its impossible for DRG to touch 2 free bases for MMA. such a silly game


Well shouldn't you blame the map then?
Slayers Forever! Rip. :( - Not the eSports organizer, that's CableStarcraft.
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
May 20 2012 08:48 GMT
#4130
On May 20 2012 17:47 LittLeD wrote:
Yo, just woke up. How'd flash do?

+ Show Spoiler +
lost badly


yeah.. -.- effort should have won that

he was better imo
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baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
May 20 2012 08:48 GMT
#4131
Kind of funny to see protoss with 100% winrate without a single colossus.
Meh
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
May 20 2012 08:48 GMT
#4132
On May 20 2012 17:47 LittLeD wrote:
Yo, just woke up. How'd flash do?

didnt make anough tanks in time to stop the attacks effectively,so he lost
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
May 20 2012 08:48 GMT
#4133
On May 20 2012 17:42 Zelniq wrote:
well they certainly have got their macro down. wow that was amazing for how short they've practiced. effort's major mistake was his use of his units, if he unburrowed his roaches earlier would have been a lot better. and use fungal instead of IT's. still pretty amazing, im somewhat impressed.


he also spent all infestors energy making infested terran in the middle of the protoss army, they all died before they are morphed...
Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 20 2012 08:49 GMT
#4134
On May 20 2012 17:48 thoradycus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:47 LittLeD wrote:
Yo, just woke up. How'd flash do?

didnt make anough tanks in time to stop the attacks effectively,so he lost


It's not just the tanks, he didn't have enough bunkers when the first attack hit. It's a mistake he won't make again that's for sure.
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
May 20 2012 08:49 GMT
#4135
got to focus on that final OSL flash, fuck sc2 for now
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
May 20 2012 08:49 GMT
#4136
On May 20 2012 17:48 thoradycus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:47 LittLeD wrote:
Yo, just woke up. How'd flash do?

didnt make anough tanks in time to stop the attacks effectively,so he lost


It was fucking awesome though.
Support your esport!
Rainfall7711
Profile Joined December 2011
329 Posts
May 20 2012 08:49 GMT
#4137
On May 20 2012 17:39 Angra wrote:
I don't watch much SC2.. are most games decided like that in 1 engagement? Pretty boring :/


These guys literally have no concept of harass, runbys, constant army movement. There are big battles but more and more there is a ton of stuff going on. This is no representative of SC2 right now.
520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
May 20 2012 08:49 GMT
#4138
On May 20 2012 17:45 Fionn wrote:
Only halfway done. Next Firebathero's ACE vs. Stork's KHAN and then Soulkey and Zero's Stars vs. STX Soul.

STX SouL looks so lonely. No love for Bogus or Calm?
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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
May 20 2012 08:50 GMT
#4139
On May 20 2012 17:47 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:45 Azarkon wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:42 Seiferz wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:40 WniO wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:39 Angra wrote:
I don't watch much SC2.. are most games decided like that in 1 engagement? Pretty boring :/

a lot of them are, but these bw players play a lot more passive than usual, but it depends on the matchup. tvz is almost always pressure non stop, where zvp is timing based and trading armies.


if you watch GSL its a lot more dynamic. watching this is like watching sc2 half a year ago.


In GSL you prepare for a specific player. Here you have to prepare.for the match up as a whole - you don't know who you're playing.

Watch MC in MLGs. He plays the same styles as Lizzy, which I think is where Lizzy took his builds from.


MC is a more good macro -> deathball style though. He doesn't play that turtle-y, but doesn't go for small armies with multiprong attacks etc.


Lizzy didn't go for multiprong attacks.

MC's style these days, when he's not two basing, is to immortal expand and then to push out at a decent timing on three bases. He did it vs. Stephano today.
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
May 20 2012 08:50 GMT
#4140
go go KHAN !!!!!
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