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jtixs
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom150 Posts
May 10 2012 10:32 GMT
#2141
hero vs squirtle is too close to call
Misconceptions to Mastery
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
May 10 2012 10:32 GMT
#2142
On May 10 2012 19:31 0neder wrote:
Here's a novel idea; ALL RACES should get better as you tech up, and worse as you tech down. Problem solved!

I'm a spectator. I want excitement. I didn't pay $15 just in hopes the finals will actually be good. I want at least good quarterfinals on. Sure, these games each had 3 minute windows of excitement. Not enough. I want more back and forth, more tension, more Starcraft.


Thankfully they do. Or do Ghosts, Vikings and Medivacs don't count as teching up?_?
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Chandra
Profile Joined July 2011
United States123 Posts
May 10 2012 10:32 GMT
#2143
In the last game it seems like MVP was able to juke Parting with the medivacs. When MVP pulled them back initially Parting had a moment of indecision where he moved his units back towards his ramp, which gave MVP a hole to move back in and start dropping units when the stalkers weren't directly below the medivacs. It's still a bit shocking that Parting couldn't hold that standard of a play.
aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
May 10 2012 10:32 GMT
#2144
HerO!!!!!!!!! we of TL believe
Mmm, what to watch.
Angel_
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1617 Posts
May 10 2012 10:32 GMT
#2145
On May 10 2012 19:30 Pyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2012 19:28 eFonSG wrote:
It seems to me like people just straight up dont like protoss around here, either they hit early and are cheesy/2 base players using a style that takes no skill; Or they play a macro game, but instead its just considered a no skill autoloss for the opponent automatically. What great choices as a protoss player x.x


agree, when 1-1-1 was every GSL game the terrans would say, "Look there just isn't any good protoss players".


right, and terran have such a better reputation and are so loved. which is why if any terran moves out before the 30 minute mark they're a cheesy all-inning scrub. and if they make a banshee at any point in the game they're 1 1 1 ing. still. people are stupid. of every race. except poor zerg. but that's because they're all dead.
NHY
Profile Joined October 2010
1013 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 10:33:04
May 10 2012 10:32 GMT
#2146
On May 10 2012 19:29 IshinShishi wrote:
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On May 10 2012 19:22 ToD wrote:
Protoss's only chance : camp desperately hoping 1 medivac doesnt sneak in until maxed, move out, pray for the terran to be attacking rocks.

This guy right here explaining why almost every protoss in the foreign scene calls PvT their best matchup.


I fixed that for you.
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 10:33:16
May 10 2012 10:32 GMT
#2147
On May 10 2012 19:32 darkness wrote:
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On May 10 2012 19:30 0ne wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:29 Pazuzu wrote:
the next series is PvP.....how can people whine about balance? LOL

People can whine about how random PvP is.

There's always something to whine about


And it wouldn't be far from truth. PvP is indeed not good if there's no reasonably fast 2nd exp.

Even then pvp fucking sucks rofl. It is just 200/200 Colossus deathball bullshit like the stereotypical look on sc2 is. Sc2 pvp late game truely is garbage. No bias...Coming from a fan standpoint, not a player..
Bromazepam
Profile Joined August 2011
820 Posts
May 10 2012 10:32 GMT
#2148
On May 10 2012 19:31 Fragile51 wrote:
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On May 10 2012 19:30 Bromazepam wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:29 jmbthirteen wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:25 Doublemint wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:22 SupLilSon wrote:
OK. I'm one of the biggest TvP whiners. I am hereby going to STFU about balance and just practice. Might not like how the match up is played, but it's definitely winnable. >.>'


omfg - somebody might have just had an epiphany :D

Fellow terrans - join your enlightenend brethren and please STOP with the massive amount if whining that has been going on the last couple of months.

Someone who usually likes reading LR threads on TL.

as long as protoss players stop whining about losing to timing attacks and all ins, then there wont be a problem. the match up is far from ideal though. on both ends.


How about the match up is horrible beyond repairing? On BOTH sides.


That seems like a great attitude to have. "everything's broken and can't be fixed ("


Sorry, but I can't wait for a random MKP vs Parting to actually enjoy a TvP. When I see a match up my attitude should be "this is gonna be interesting", not "this is gonna be boring most probably".
Saying that something is killing esports is killing esports.
kochujang
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1226 Posts
May 10 2012 10:33 GMT
#2149
Come on HerO!
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
May 10 2012 10:33 GMT
#2150

On May 10 2012 19:23 EmilA wrote:

No, arguing that protoss is doing way too well for the extremely low skill level required to achieve extremely much. As long as the game is autoloss at late game, there'll be whine.


Omg, i hate to say it, i hate to keep reading people like this in TL forums, but sadly this is a (average) terran player (fanboy) this days.

Protoss struggling vs Z lategame/macro/production, this:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=320894

Terrans struggling vs late game protoss capabilities, this:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=334748

So sad, but just reality.

Chicken gank op
SwampFox808
Profile Joined April 2012
United States22 Posts
May 10 2012 10:33 GMT
#2151
On May 10 2012 19:23 EmilA wrote:
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On May 10 2012 19:20 Fragile51 wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:19 shabby wrote:
On May 10 2012 19:19 ZeromuS wrote:
Best part is, even with MVP in the finals, even if MVP wins the GSL, terran players will still complain about protoss


Probably because one datapoint doesn't prove anything.


Yet they will argue that P is imba based on one season of protoss doing well.


No, arguing that protoss is doing way too well for the extremely low skill level required to achieve extremely much. As long as the game is autoloss at late game, there'll be whine.


ROFL I love when people say that toss takes low skill to play. They come off so bitter... The fact is that toss doesn't need the macro timing of the other races but they are the most micro intensive race and they have to be the most aware or they will just die to any of the million different timings terrans and zergs can do.Just because they play defensive doesnt mean it doesnt take skill. Its alot easier to pull off a drop then it is to defend it and your front perfectly.
SOOOO MANY BANELINGS!!!!!!!
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
May 10 2012 10:33 GMT
#2152
On May 10 2012 19:31 Zealot Orgy wrote:
MVP in the finals is a shame to the GSL as a whole.

He had the most disappointing display of skill of all the 32 codeS players, and he made it to the finals thanks to a train of allins.

If STC does it, he's called theSTCheese and blamed by everyone, if MVP does it, "OH WELL ITS HIS WRISTS" "GAME GENIE OMFG BEST GOGO 4TH GSL" "OMG DAT PERFECT TIMING"

Who cares?

If protoss plays greedy, they should be allined as punishment. More terrans should allin and force them to play more safe, making the terran standard play better.
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
May 10 2012 10:33 GMT
#2153
On May 10 2012 19:31 Lockitupv2 wrote:
He wont pass the Ro32.
He wont pass the Ro16.
He wont beat Naniwa.
He wont beat Parting.
He wont win the finals.

You're running out of chances haters.

That's kinda true lol. Seems like ppl have doubted MVP this entire season.
lahara
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany140 Posts
May 10 2012 10:33 GMT
#2154
lol at people whining that mvp won due to cheesing and actually being worse
lol at people whining that protoss is imba
having an argument on the internt is like competing in the paralympics, even if u win ure still retarded
Asvhald
Profile Joined April 2011
Spain199 Posts
May 10 2012 10:33 GMT
#2155
On May 10 2012 19:19 ZeromuS wrote:
Best part is, even with MVP in the finals, even if MVP wins the GSL, terran players will still complain about protoss


That's what happens when a race is fundamentally overpowered for more than a year or a year and a half, especially in the game's early life. It gives birth to a special breed of fan who got so used to seeing that race win (good or bad players, but helped by their race choice) that he believes Terran should normally win by divine right. Everything else is "imbalance" for them. Terran have SEVEN fucking championships, Zerg has FIVE, and protoss have... *drumroll* TWO!!! but no matter, this is the natural order, this is what should happen, and if anything (i.e Protoss strong lategame) gets in the way, then they behave like the spoiled little princess who can't have her fourth dress made for yesterday.

No matter they have the strongest early and midgame, strongest harrassment, strongest turtle, strongest scouting ability (hi scan), strongest drop play, etc... just no matter. It isn't enough for them, unless Terran wins everything.

I congratulate MVP for his victory and I'm glad to see a person overcoming his problems, but let's be serious, MVP can be as good as he wants to be, but which other race would let him get away with so many gimmicks, mind-fucks, and such? If he was Z or P with the same wrist problems, he would have probably fallen in Ro16, IMHO.

God, I'm so tired of these little Terran posting princesses.

User was temp banned for this post.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
May 10 2012 10:33 GMT
#2156
LOL Nestea.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
May 10 2012 10:33 GMT
#2157
On May 10 2012 19:32 ceaRshaf wrote:
I want so much Hero in the finals. SO MUCH!


Agreed - I like Squirtle as well, but I admit having a mancrush on this sexy beast that is HerO.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 10 2012 10:33 GMT
#2158
It's LIQUID'HERO time!
SafeWord
Profile Joined February 2010
United States522 Posts
May 10 2012 10:33 GMT
#2159
As much as I love Hero I don't think he can beat mvp, Squirtle needs to win : /
Who needs players when you have God?
gengka
Profile Joined September 2010
Malaysia461 Posts
May 10 2012 10:33 GMT
#2160
now that we are not having a PVP final (oh yessss!), i actually don't mind if we have a Protoss champion this time around
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