Its kinda funny how Ret seems to be mentally blocked against Grubby while Grubby seems to be mentally blocked against Stephano.

I guess its all about your mindset

TheSir

1830 Posts

May 13 2012 18:03 GMT

#191

On May 14 2012 02:56 eXeHephaistas wrote:

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I've never seen him go for a macro game vs a decent zerg and win.

Why would you do that if you can win with 2 base pushes? Going macro against Zerg as Protoss is a stupid idea anyway.

Funq

Netherlands77 Posts

May 13 2012 18:04 GMT

#192

Glad Ret qualified, but man Forcefields are boring.

Domus

510 Posts

May 13 2012 18:04 GMT

#193

On May 14 2012 03:02 windsupernova wrote:
Its kinda funny how Ret seems to be mentally blocked against Grubby while Grubby seems to be mentally blocked against Stephano.

I guess its all about your mindset

I think that Grubby is not yet on the level of Stephano yet? I mean Stephano is top 3 zerg worldwide? I would not call Grubby top 3 Protoss worldwide just yet (but in 6 months, who knows).

Flummie

Netherlands417 Posts

May 13 2012 18:06 GMT

#194

YEAH 3v3 COMING UP :DDD

This will be awesome ;D

Musicus

Germany23580 Posts

May 13 2012 18:07 GMT

#195

Seriuosly, if Grubby had the same confidence in his play against Stephano as he has against Ret he could do much better against him, same goes for Ret. The hardships of a progamer i think

Derrida

2885 Posts

May 13 2012 18:08 GMT

#196

As a person who has been watching Grubby since the first day he started streaming, I can clearly say that he has a lot of builds other than 2 base all-ins vs. zerg. However, versus opponents on equal footing or even better than him, he tends to do two-base pressure and occasionally takes a third behind it. This is his cookie-cutter PvZ playstyle. It used to be 6gate blinkstalker pressure building on his microskills to get the upperhand vs. roach play, now it evolved into 2-3 immortal 8-10 sentry stalker push at around 130 supply.

I'm not sure how one can flame him for "all-inning" considering this is the current state of matchup and that it often works favorably for him. If it isn't broken, why fix it? Why would you go macro vs. perhaps one of the best macroers in the whole game? You have to use your competitive advantage to get the upperhand.

That said, I sympathize with Ret on his statement after the loss. I think researching burrow/tunnelling claws would be very helpful in this situation as Grubby almost never has an observer out during this push. He should also watch Stephano's games vs. Grubby in TakeTV invitational finals.

Domus

510 Posts

May 13 2012 18:11 GMT

#197

On May 14 2012 03:08 Derrida wrote:
That said, I sympathize with Ret on his statement after the loss. I think researching burrow/tunnelling claws would be very helpful in this situation as Grubby almost never has an observer out during this push. He should also watch Stephano's games vs. Grubby in TakeTV invitational finals.

He said the big problem is the choke. So why fight in the choke? Instead of playing so reactionary, he could move out on the map before the push hits his third. If he pushes out with quite some lings, he can wear down the forcefields before grubby arrives.. That way grubby at least cant attack the third full force.

diejule

Germany416 Posts

May 13 2012 18:15 GMT

#198

And more pictures are up
This time: winners ceremony netherlands with grubby, ret and uThermal!

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151122210774778.536740.36762739777&type=1