I think idra will play better games, because this game matters more than that show match. Idra stated on inside the game ( think not 100% sure) that he hates show matches. But despite that, I think idra will lose because, on iron squid alive is pushing nestea to the brink. And idra is not as good as nestea.
I think idra will play better games, because this game matters more than that show match. Idra stated on inside the game ( think not 100% sure) that he hates show matches. But despite that, I think idra will lose because, on iron squid alive is pushing nestea to the brink. And idra is not as good as nestea.
If he hates showmatches why does he accept them? That's kind of weird, lol.
I think idra will play better games, because this game matters more than that show match. Idra stated on inside the game ( think not 100% sure) that he hates show matches. But despite that, I think idra will lose because, on iron squid alive is pushing nestea to the brink. And idra is not as good as nestea.
If he hates showmatches why does he accept them? That's kind of weird, lol.
Because usually the loser gets money anyways, lol.
Go Thorzain! Would love to see SeleCT take out Alicia too
On May 06 2012 10:40 Fubi wrote: haven't been following NASL much, but Select just paused the game; I thought these matches were casted from replays like before?
Nope, this game is live. It's a wise idea by NASL to make the fact that a live game is actually live incontrovertible with the pregame screen and the pauses, to silence the silly conspiracy theorists.
On May 06 2012 10:40 Fubi wrote: haven't been following NASL much, but Select just paused the game; I thought these matches were casted from replays like before?
Some are, some are not. Not matter what, all matches are played within 24 hours before the broadcast.
On May 06 2012 10:49 Sumahi wrote: I'm hoping for Idra over Alive, but I won't hold my breath.
I'm just switching over from IPL but have had the stream muted, why is it in contention atm?
Well aLive is in Paris right now due to Iron Squid, so there is a possibility that the match won't happen, because it's 4am over here and there may be no PC to play on.
On May 06 2012 10:49 Sumahi wrote: I'm hoping for Idra over Alive, but I won't hold my breath.
I'm just switching over from IPL but have had the stream muted, why is it in contention atm?
Alive is in Paris, probably asleep or partying
Ah, I forgot. Wow that's poor by me lol, it's a shame I really hope he's in a good state of mind, he takes losses hard and getting the worse end of 2 ridiculously close series sucks
On May 06 2012 11:17 iamperfection wrote: Are they out of order or did i miss idra play?
I think they might be out of order - either that or games were thrown again. I literally went to take a dump and it went from the end of Alicia v Select to now.
On May 06 2012 11:31 Dexington wrote: Ret is playing this quite weird. Spending none of his money, only making Mutas. He has complete map control, why isn't he building bases everywhere?
+ getting owned by Phoenix early + and its pointless to have 90 drones on 3bases
On May 06 2012 11:31 Dexington wrote: Ret is playing this quite weird. Spending none of his money, only making Mutas. He has complete map control, why isn't he building bases everywhere?
+ getting owned by Phoenix early + and its pointless to have 90 drones on 3bases
On May 06 2012 11:31 Dexington wrote: Ret is playing this quite weird. Spending none of his money, only making Mutas. He has complete map control, why isn't he building bases everywhere?
+ getting owned by Phoenix early + and its pointless to have 90 drones on 3bases
Just a really poor game by both.
how is it pointless to have 90 drones on 3 bases?
Pointless was a bad word for that situation, but it's definitely way too much. It's okay to have above saturation when you are preparing to take another base, but Ret was on 90+ without expanding for a few minutes.
On May 06 2012 11:31 Dexington wrote: Ret is playing this quite weird. Spending none of his money, only making Mutas. He has complete map control, why isn't he building bases everywhere?
+ getting owned by Phoenix early + and its pointless to have 90 drones on 3bases
Just a really poor game by both.
how is it pointless to have 90 drones on 3 bases?
optimal saturation is 22 per base (2 per mineral, 3 per gas) most pros these days don't go over that, especially zerg just get a 4th quicker and than instantly poop out 20 additional drones
On May 06 2012 11:31 Dexington wrote: Ret is playing this quite weird. Spending none of his money, only making Mutas. He has complete map control, why isn't he building bases everywhere?
+ getting owned by Phoenix early + and its pointless to have 90 drones on 3bases
Just a really poor game by both.
how is it pointless to have 90 drones on 3 bases?
optimal saturation is 22 per base (2 per mineral, 3 per gas) most pros these days don't go over that, especially zerg just get a 4th quicker and than instantly poop out 20 additional drones
3 per mineral is fine though, if he took a fourth it would be pretty hard to hold at that time, he had no ground army. With 90 drones you have enough for spines and you have the maximum three base economy, it worked out perfectly for him.
On May 06 2012 11:31 Dexington wrote: Ret is playing this quite weird. Spending none of his money, only making Mutas. He has complete map control, why isn't he building bases everywhere?
+ getting owned by Phoenix early + and its pointless to have 90 drones on 3bases
Just a really poor game by both.
how is it pointless to have 90 drones on 3 bases?
optimal saturation is 22 per base (2 per mineral, 3 per gas) most pros these days don't go over that, especially zerg just get a 4th quicker and than instantly poop out 20 additional drones
3 per mineral is fine though, if he took a fourth it would be pretty hard to hold at that time, he had no ground army. With 90 drones you have enough for spines and you have the maximum three base economy, it worked out perfectly for him.
It worked perfectly because he was playing Cruncher.
On May 06 2012 11:31 Dexington wrote: Ret is playing this quite weird. Spending none of his money, only making Mutas. He has complete map control, why isn't he building bases everywhere?
+ getting owned by Phoenix early + and its pointless to have 90 drones on 3bases
Just a really poor game by both.
how is it pointless to have 90 drones on 3 bases?
optimal saturation is 22 per base (2 per mineral, 3 per gas) most pros these days don't go over that, especially zerg just get a 4th quicker and than instantly poop out 20 additional drones
3 per mineral is fine though, if he took a fourth it would be pretty hard to hold at that time, he had no ground army. With 90 drones you have enough for spines and you have the maximum three base economy, it worked out perfectly for him.
So if you have no army (and cant defend your first 3 bases), you produce even more drones who mine less efficiently? Just produce an army, take 4th, then produce the additional drones. Thats pretty easy with zerg mechanics.
On near patches, the efficiency of a 3rd drone is ~30%. On pro level that is not "fine".
Pretty ugly game. Just mass roaches and headbutt into the natural with almost no multitasking, no creep spread, no expanding, just keep mashing that R button and attack.
Jesus, every time Cruncher gets himself a huge advantage he just throws it away with terrible decision making. That hold was so brilliant! All he had to do was macro up and keep defending.
On May 06 2012 11:31 Dexington wrote: Ret is playing this quite weird. Spending none of his money, only making Mutas. He has complete map control, why isn't he building bases everywhere?
+ getting owned by Phoenix early + and its pointless to have 90 drones on 3bases
Just a really poor game by both.
how is it pointless to have 90 drones on 3 bases?
optimal saturation is 22 per base (2 per mineral, 3 per gas) most pros these days don't go over that, especially zerg just get a 4th quicker and than instantly poop out 20 additional drones
3 per mineral is fine though, if he took a fourth it would be pretty hard to hold at that time, he had no ground army. With 90 drones you have enough for spines and you have the maximum three base economy, it worked out perfectly for him.
So if you have no army (and cant defend your first 3 bases), you produce even more drones who mine less efficiently? Just produce an army, take 4th, then produce the additional drones. Thats pretty easy with zerg mechanics.
On near patches, the efficiency of a 3rd drone is ~30%. On pro level that is not "fine".
It even out to about 20 minerals/minute for the third drone so they pay for themselves in 2.5 minutes. That's not bad, especially when he knew he would need them for spine crawlers.
I'm not going to theory craft the entire game to see what else could have happened there, but 90 drones worked out fine for him, people exaggerate how bad it is to go over 2/patch.
On May 06 2012 11:31 Dexington wrote: Ret is playing this quite weird. Spending none of his money, only making Mutas. He has complete map control, why isn't he building bases everywhere?
+ getting owned by Phoenix early + and its pointless to have 90 drones on 3bases
Just a really poor game by both.
how is it pointless to have 90 drones on 3 bases?
optimal saturation is 22 per base (2 per mineral, 3 per gas) most pros these days don't go over that, especially zerg just get a 4th quicker and than instantly poop out 20 additional drones
3 per mineral is fine though, if he took a fourth it would be pretty hard to hold at that time, he had no ground army. With 90 drones you have enough for spines and you have the maximum three base economy, it worked out perfectly for him.
So if you have no army (and cant defend your first 3 bases), you produce even more drones who mine less efficiently? Just produce an army, take 4th, then produce the additional drones. Thats pretty easy with zerg mechanics.
On near patches, the efficiency of a 3rd drone is ~30%. On pro level that is not "fine".
It even out to about 20 minerals/minute for the third drone so they pay for themselves in 2.5 minutes. That's not bad, especially when he knew he would need them for spine crawlers.
I'm not going to theory craft the entire game to see what else could have happened there, but 90 drones worked out fine for him, people exaggerate how bad it is to go over 2/patch.
I know the numbers. Its ok to get 3 workers on far patches. Zergs have to decide all the time between producing workers and army. There it was between "30% worker" and army. I clearly disagree with the decision there.
I can't believe this 14 drone 1 base baneling bust worked, I use it at the platinum level and its success rate is not great. One bunker stops this rush.
On May 06 2012 12:06 compucomp wrote: I can't believe this 14 drone 1 base baneling bust worked, I use it at the platinum level and its success rate is not great. One bunker stops this rush.
Lowely probably studied Thorzain's play and knew he likes to do that greedy 3CC build on Tal'Darim. Thorzain played foolishly, didn't even scout his opponent's position.
On May 06 2012 12:06 compucomp wrote: I can't believe this 14 drone 1 base baneling bust worked, I use it at the platinum level and its success rate is not great. One bunker stops this rush.
I think Platinum players don't play super greedy, assume their opponent is going to play standard and make 2 more CC's with one marine.
Just looked at the group results in total, this is the group of walkovers. CatZ hasn't played a match, Alicia got walked over and now Alive is getting walked over.
On May 06 2012 12:27 MrCash wrote: Walk over? Really? Why could it not be delayed like the Polt vs Morrow match?
Difference was the Polt vs Morrow game was a miscommunication from us.
Hmm, well I suppose that's understandable. Alive chose Iron Squid over NASL. No reason for Idra to risk and inconvenience himself for Alive's sake either, can't say I would decline the walk over against anyone for a tournament that has a huge prize pool. It is their job.
On May 06 2012 12:27 MrCash wrote: Walk over? Really? Why could it not be delayed like the Polt vs Morrow match?
Difference was the Polt vs Morrow game was a miscommunication from us.
Hmm, well I suppose that's understandable. Alive chose Iron Squid over NASL. No reason for Idra to risk and inconvenience himself for Alive's sake either, can't say I would decline the walk over against anyone for a tournament that has a huge prize pool. It is their job.
On May 06 2012 12:34 Hier wrote: The instant replays are great, but I really wish they'd have some sort of animation when entering and exiting said replays.
Yeah the replays need an onscreen indicator 'kingston hyperx instant replay' or something to indicate that it's not the live play.
Wow Lowely and Ultras. Lowely lacks name recognition for me, so I would not have expected this result or his overall results. And ultralisks have been doing work a lot lately, I don't know what it is, except unprepared terrans probably. aLive pushed terribly slowly in an Iron Squid game earlier today as well.
On May 06 2012 12:45 compucomp wrote: Lowely lost 12 ultras almost for free, immediately remakes them, proceeds to stomp Thorzain.
What did I just watch?
You watched when marauders are not made vs ultralisks
It's like not making archons or high templars vs terran
Wasn't even the lack of Marauders. It was losing an entire mineral line worth of SCVs to a run-by. It's easy to slam economies into an opponent who's at 2/3rds of the income they want.
EDIT: That sorta came out wrong. Wasn't trying to degrade Lowely's play, just pointing out where the major damage was done to Thorzain.
On May 06 2012 12:27 MrCash wrote: Walk over? Really? Why could it not be delayed like the Polt vs Morrow match?
Difference was the Polt vs Morrow game was a miscommunication from us.
Hmm, well I suppose that's understandable. Alive chose Iron Squid over NASL. No reason for Idra to risk and inconvenience himself for Alive's sake either, can't say I would decline the walk over against anyone for a tournament that has a huge prize pool. It is their job.
I kinda doubt Idra had a choice
Well if NASL didn't even ask him, it would be a stupid business decision on their part. 2 extremely high profile players, this is one of the most interesting matches in the entire regular season. I wouldn't expect them to make a public statement to that regard, so as not to put scrutiny on a player, that would be unprofessional.
On May 06 2012 12:27 MrCash wrote: Walk over? Really? Why could it not be delayed like the Polt vs Morrow match?
Difference was the Polt vs Morrow game was a miscommunication from us.
Hmm, well I suppose that's understandable. Alive chose Iron Squid over NASL. No reason for Idra to risk and inconvenience himself for Alive's sake either, can't say I would decline the walk over against anyone for a tournament that has a huge prize pool. It is their job.
I kinda doubt Idra had a choice
Well if NASL didn't even ask him, it would be a stupid business decision on their part. 2 extremely high profile players, this is one of the most interesting matches in the entire regular season. I wouldn't expect them to make a public statement to that regard, so as not to put scrutiny on a player, that would be unprofessional.
This has been addressed many, many times before.
No tournament should ever ask the player for advice about referee decisions.
On May 06 2012 12:50 veffy wrote: anyone else find it a bit weird that the casters spent the whole series constantly making pretty naive jokes about how poor lowleys home is?
You can't really take them seriously. They're just having some fun, hence all the gretorp rolypoly jokes, alligators, et all.
On May 06 2012 12:27 MrCash wrote: Walk over? Really? Why could it not be delayed like the Polt vs Morrow match?
Difference was the Polt vs Morrow game was a miscommunication from us.
Hmm, well I suppose that's understandable. Alive chose Iron Squid over NASL. No reason for Idra to risk and inconvenience himself for Alive's sake either, can't say I would decline the walk over against anyone for a tournament that has a huge prize pool. It is their job.
I kinda doubt Idra had a choice
Well if NASL didn't even ask him, it would be a stupid business decision on their part. 2 extremely high profile players, this is one of the most interesting matches in the entire regular season. I wouldn't expect them to make a public statement to that regard, so as not to put scrutiny on a player, that would be unprofessional.
This has been addressed many, many times before.
No tournament should ever ask the player for advice about referee decisions.
This isn't exactly a game decision, not a disconnect. The decision is clear, one of the players didn't live up to his promise and expectations and the obvious "judge" decision should be to give the win to Idra. However, this not hard to cover up in order to be more profitable. It's absurd, from a business perspective, to say that cancelling one of the biggest matches of the season is better than saying on air "Sorry, the match had to be rescheduled, thankfully both the players were understanding and cooperative."
On May 06 2012 12:27 MrCash wrote: Walk over? Really? Why could it not be delayed like the Polt vs Morrow match?
Difference was the Polt vs Morrow game was a miscommunication from us.
Hmm, well I suppose that's understandable. Alive chose Iron Squid over NASL. No reason for Idra to risk and inconvenience himself for Alive's sake either, can't say I would decline the walk over against anyone for a tournament that has a huge prize pool. It is their job.
I kinda doubt Idra had a choice
Well if NASL didn't even ask him, it would be a stupid business decision on their part. 2 extremely high profile players, this is one of the most interesting matches in the entire regular season. I wouldn't expect them to make a public statement to that regard, so as not to put scrutiny on a player, that would be unprofessional.
This has been addressed many, many times before.
No tournament should ever ask the player for advice about referee decisions.
This isn't exactly a game decision, not a disconnect. The decision is clear, one of the players didn't live up to his promise and expectations and the obvious "judge" decision should be to give the win to Idra. However, this not hard to cover up in order to be more profitable. It's absurd, from a business perspective, to say that cancelling one of the biggest matches of the season is better than saying on air "Sorry, the match had to be rescheduled, thankfully both the players were understanding and cooperative."
Wut.
So...you're complaining that they're not BSing their way to scrub together as much money as possible?
On May 06 2012 12:27 MrCash wrote: Walk over? Really? Why could it not be delayed like the Polt vs Morrow match?
Difference was the Polt vs Morrow game was a miscommunication from us.
Hmm, well I suppose that's understandable. Alive chose Iron Squid over NASL. No reason for Idra to risk and inconvenience himself for Alive's sake either, can't say I would decline the walk over against anyone for a tournament that has a huge prize pool. It is their job.
I kinda doubt Idra had a choice
Well if NASL didn't even ask him, it would be a stupid business decision on their part. 2 extremely high profile players, this is one of the most interesting matches in the entire regular season. I wouldn't expect them to make a public statement to that regard, so as not to put scrutiny on a player, that would be unprofessional.
This has been addressed many, many times before.
No tournament should ever ask the player for advice about referee decisions.
This isn't exactly a game decision, not a disconnect. The decision is clear, one of the players didn't live up to his promise and expectations and the obvious "judge" decision should be to give the win to Idra. However, this not hard to cover up in order to be more profitable. It's absurd, from a business perspective, to say that cancelling one of the biggest matches of the season is better than saying on air "Sorry, the match had to be rescheduled, thankfully both the players were understanding and cooperative."
Wut.
So...you're complaining that they're not BSing their way to scrub together as much money as possible?
Scrub together? I see a CEO in this one, business is his second nature.
Our procedure for requesting reschedules is that you must notify us at least 1 week in advance. Fnatic told us 2 days before, and IdrA could play the night before, but aLive had already left to Paris, therefore there was nothing we could do.
The only way we play a game after the broadcast time is if WE make an error (I.E. send a wrong time in the email or something). Otherwise, games are always played at the schedule time or 1 day earlier. We try to never play games any earlier than that.
Great show. It occurs to me that you guys are missing production credits. Shouldn't be too hard to whip something up. After all the praise you guys have got lifting your game this season give your production crew a little love.
On May 06 2012 12:27 MrCash wrote: Walk over? Really? Why could it not be delayed like the Polt vs Morrow match?
Difference was the Polt vs Morrow game was a miscommunication from us.
Hmm, well I suppose that's understandable. Alive chose Iron Squid over NASL. No reason for Idra to risk and inconvenience himself for Alive's sake either, can't say I would decline the walk over against anyone for a tournament that has a huge prize pool. It is their job.
I kinda doubt Idra had a choice
Well if NASL didn't even ask him, it would be a stupid business decision on their part. 2 extremely high profile players, this is one of the most interesting matches in the entire regular season. I wouldn't expect them to make a public statement to that regard, so as not to put scrutiny on a player, that would be unprofessional.
This has been addressed many, many times before.
No tournament should ever ask the player for advice about referee decisions.
This isn't exactly a game decision, not a disconnect. The decision is clear, one of the players didn't live up to his promise and expectations and the obvious "judge" decision should be to give the win to Idra. However, this not hard to cover up in order to be more profitable. It's absurd, from a business perspective, to say that cancelling one of the biggest matches of the season is better than saying on air "Sorry, the match had to be rescheduled, thankfully both the players were understanding and cooperative."
Wut.
So...you're complaining that they're not BSing their way to scrub together as much money as possible?
Scrub together? I see a CEO in this one, business is his second nature.
So...once again, I'm really not seeing the complaint here.
Do you want them to make exceptions and change rules based off of player popularity?
On May 06 2012 12:27 MrCash wrote: Walk over? Really? Why could it not be delayed like the Polt vs Morrow match?
Difference was the Polt vs Morrow game was a miscommunication from us.
Hmm, well I suppose that's understandable. Alive chose Iron Squid over NASL. No reason for Idra to risk and inconvenience himself for Alive's sake either, can't say I would decline the walk over against anyone for a tournament that has a huge prize pool. It is their job.
I kinda doubt Idra had a choice
Well if NASL didn't even ask him, it would be a stupid business decision on their part. 2 extremely high profile players, this is one of the most interesting matches in the entire regular season. I wouldn't expect them to make a public statement to that regard, so as not to put scrutiny on a player, that would be unprofessional.
This has been addressed many, many times before.
No tournament should ever ask the player for advice about referee decisions.
This isn't exactly a game decision, not a disconnect. The decision is clear, one of the players didn't live up to his promise and expectations and the obvious "judge" decision should be to give the win to Idra. However, this not hard to cover up in order to be more profitable. It's absurd, from a business perspective, to say that cancelling one of the biggest matches of the season is better than saying on air "Sorry, the match had to be rescheduled, thankfully both the players were understanding and cooperative."
Wut.
So...you're complaining that they're not BSing their way to scrub together as much money as possible?
Scrub together? I see a CEO in this one, business is his second nature.
So...once again, I'm really not seeing the complaint here.
Do you want them to make exceptions and change rules based off of player popularity?
No, as a spectator I'm perfectly fine with their decision. Either you didn't read or understand my response to Xeris's statement.
Difference was the Polt vs Morrow game was a miscommunication from us.
Hmm, well I suppose that's understandable. Alive chose Iron Squid over NASL. No reason for Idra to risk and inconvenience himself for Alive's sake either, can't say I would decline the walk over against anyone for a tournament that has a huge prize pool. It is their job.
I kinda doubt Idra had a choice
Well if NASL didn't even ask him, it would be a stupid business decision on their part. 2 extremely high profile players, this is one of the most interesting matches in the entire regular season. I wouldn't expect them to make a public statement to that regard, so as not to put scrutiny on a player, that would be unprofessional.
This has been addressed many, many times before.
No tournament should ever ask the player for advice about referee decisions.
This isn't exactly a game decision, not a disconnect. The decision is clear, one of the players didn't live up to his promise and expectations and the obvious "judge" decision should be to give the win to Idra. However, this not hard to cover up in order to be more profitable. It's absurd, from a business perspective, to say that cancelling one of the biggest matches of the season is better than saying on air "Sorry, the match had to be rescheduled, thankfully both the players were understanding and cooperative."
Wut.
So...you're complaining that they're not BSing their way to scrub together as much money as possible?
Scrub together? I see a CEO in this one, business is his second nature.
So...once again, I'm really not seeing the complaint here.
Do you want them to make exceptions and change rules based off of player popularity?
No, as a spectator I'm perfectly fine with their decision. Either you didn't read or understand my response to Xeris's statement.
I did. I don't see why it's a "bad business decision" not to discuss walkovers with players. I'm trying to figure out why you think it's bad to have standardized rules, as opposed to giving leeway to players based on the number of views they'll draw (or conversely denying a walkover to a player just because he's popular).
On May 06 2012 20:13 RPR_Tempest wrote: LoWeLy is 4-0 currently.
Who the fuck saw that coming?
Not only that, he beat Ret, Select and Thorzain already. He could logically go 6-2 easily now, with aLive and Alicia left as "favourites" and Cruncher and Idra also left to face.
When aLive doesn't show for his match, all of TL korean fanboys white-knight him like crazy. When Stephano does the same, it's a shame and he should be banned forever.
On May 06 2012 20:26 Otolia wrote: When aLive doesn't show for his match, all of TL korean fanboys white-knight him like crazy. When Stephano does the same, it's a shame and he should be banned forever.
Double standards.
Saying that as a Stephano fan: Stephano had 2 (or more?) no-shows before and has some haters who react badly. All the other people actually understood that he tried to play from his vacationing spot (which didnt work out). And NASL is pretty strict about their schedules, so he couldnt reschedule his match just like alive. (also NASL reported the situation differently as in alives case - producing some bad reactions at first)
On May 06 2012 20:26 Otolia wrote: When aLive doesn't show for his match, all of TL korean fanboys white-knight him like crazy. When Stephano does the same, it's a shame and he should be banned forever.
Double standards.
Well with aLive it's understandable why he couldn't play. He should've tried to reschedule earlier (need a week's notice) so that is his team's fault, presumably as aLive probably does not personally communicate with NASL.
Stephano had a right to miss the game as well, as a family vacation IMO is very important. He just should've at least given a week's notice to try and reschedule, or at the very least give a day's notice to forfeit so his opponent didn't have to be waiting for him to show up.
On May 06 2012 20:26 Otolia wrote: When aLive doesn't show for his match, all of TL korean fanboys white-knight him like crazy. When Stephano does the same, it's a shame and he should be banned forever.
Double standards.
Well with aLive it's understandable why he couldn't play. He should've tried to reschedule earlier (need a week's notice) so that is his team's fault, presumably as aLive probably does not personally communicate with NASL.
Stephano had a right to miss the game as well, as a family vacation IMO is very important. He just should've at least given a week's notice to try and reschedule, or at the very least give a day's notice to forfeit so his opponent didn't have to be waiting for him to show up.
Please inform yourself before judging like this: - Stephano assumed he could play during vacation, he didnt expect the internet connection to be that bad. - After he found out, he could not play, he informed NASL 3 days before. Puma didnt wait.
On May 06 2012 20:26 Otolia wrote: When aLive doesn't show for his match, all of TL korean fanboys white-knight him like crazy. When Stephano does the same, it's a shame and he should be banned forever.
Double standards.
Well with aLive it's understandable why he couldn't play. He should've tried to reschedule earlier (need a week's notice) so that is his team's fault, presumably as aLive probably does not personally communicate with NASL.
Stephano had a right to miss the game as well, as a family vacation IMO is very important. He just should've at least given a week's notice to try and reschedule, or at the very least give a day's notice to forfeit so his opponent didn't have to be waiting for him to show up.
He do got a point. I see it alot on TL if a Korean do something its understandable if the top foreigner player do something its unaccepteple.
And btw you wrong yes Alive had Iron Squid but he had known that for a long time and he could have played the matches if he really wanted to. Stephano didnt had a choise since he coulnt find a stable internet connections on his family vacation spot.
On May 06 2012 17:58 tomatriedes wrote: Yay! Idra finally gets a win!
really? idra beat alive? I've avoided the spoilers but caught your post, oh well, what a badass though beating alive, the grack is back, amazing
Idra just beat MVP in TvZ so I'm sure he is doing just fine.
when did he beat MVP in TvZ? lol? online at iron squid, wich MVP being injured. alive wouldve crushed him and you would know that if you wouldnt be a biased fanboy.
What the hell is up with Rotterdam's extremely inconsiderate and ignorant comments about poverty in Belarus? It's a dictatorship and life there isn't easy. As a caster I think he should watch his mouth and his at times arrogant tone. I can appreciate some lighthearted humour during games, but this time he went too far - and on several occasions.
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