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DreamHack EIZO Open [Day 2] - Page 137

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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-22 16:40:24
April 22 2012 16:38 GMT
#2721
On April 23 2012 01:36 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 01:33 hifriend wrote:
On April 23 2012 01:30 dragonborn wrote:
On April 23 2012 01:30 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Honestly think Nerchio will 2-0 Monster easily. He probably has the best foreign ZvZ

sorry, its stephano.

nerchio and stephano are pretty comparable vZ I'd say


Not really Stephano made Nerchio play Terran the last game in a bo5

But then again nothign to be ashamed of Nerchio got ill say defiantly a high lvl ZvZ and only the veyr best ZvZ players in the world can beat him. Monster got no chance with his 38% win ratio.

And the most impressive thing about Nerchio is he isnt even a full time pro like Idra,Ret etc and he is still just as good if not better



The thing is, Stephano is an adaptive player - he adapts to people he plays and finds ways to beat them - ie Polt who he had a huge losing record vs. but then smashed in Lone Star Cup. Stephano adapted to Nerchio, but their record vs. other Zergs is around the same level. Both took a game off of Nestea, but neither were able to beat Nestea, for example.
HavocGG
Profile Joined August 2010
Czech Republic113 Posts
April 22 2012 16:38 GMT
#2722
F yeah Madeon
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
April 22 2012 16:39 GMT
#2723
On April 23 2012 01:37 Fusilero wrote:
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On April 23 2012 01:35 shabby wrote:
On April 23 2012 01:32 Plexa wrote:
On April 23 2012 01:31 Tsubbi wrote:
pvz is disgusting? korean pvz winrates are above 70% atm, ret just played much better than genius

thats because all the korean zergs in the gsl ar eplaying like shit atm ~.~ look at someone like line who is actually absurdly good


Been a fan of Line for soooo long. WHEN WILL IT BE HIS TIME TO SHINE?!

He got a walkover because boxer forfeited so he will be in up and downs at least, or he can beat MMA and probably nestea to qualify straight to code S and hey never count any possibility out the guy might just do that.


Sick. MMA will be a hard nut to crack, but anything is possible nowadays it seems.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
iAmBiGbiRd
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia1029 Posts
April 22 2012 16:40 GMT
#2724
On April 23 2012 01:38 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 01:36 Benjamin99 wrote:
On April 23 2012 01:33 hifriend wrote:
On April 23 2012 01:30 dragonborn wrote:
On April 23 2012 01:30 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Honestly think Nerchio will 2-0 Monster easily. He probably has the best foreign ZvZ

sorry, its stephano.

nerchio and stephano are pretty comparable vZ I'd say


Not really Stephano made Nerchio play Terran the last game in a bo5

But then again nothign to be ashamed of Nerchio got ill say defiantly a high lvl ZvZ and only the veyr best ZvZ players in the world can beat him. Monster got no chance with his 38% win ratio.

And the most impressive thing about Nerchio is he isnt even a full time pro like Idra,Ret etc and he is still just as good if not better



The thing is, Stephano is an adaptive player - he adapts to people he plays and finds ways to beat them - ala Polt who he had a huge losing record vs. but then smashed in Lone Star Cup. Stephano adapted to Nerchio, but their record vs. other Zergs is around the same level. Both took a game off of Nestea, but neither were able to beat Nestea, for example.


Stephano also played Nestea at one of the biggest tournaments in the world whereas Nerchio played him online....
Hello friends:)
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
April 22 2012 16:40 GMT
#2725
On April 23 2012 01:29 Derrida wrote:
Man, FINALLY A GOOD, IN DEPTH, KNOWLEDGEABLE INTERVIEW WITH THE WINNER OF A GAME IN ANY SC2 TOURNAMENT IN HISTORY OF THE GAME!

*tears of joy*

To be fair, poopfeast420, ReleaseTheGracken, et al had pretty good questions back in the day.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
April 22 2012 16:40 GMT
#2726
On April 23 2012 01:36 teamsolid wrote:
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On April 23 2012 01:30 Azarkon wrote:
On April 23 2012 01:29 Rk0 wrote:
I dont understand Genius let Ret build up drones and let him play in his comfort zone. Really awesome seeing Ret win here and he has definitely a shot to win the title in this tournament!


Genius assessed the situation as Ret having a horribad late-game and being a defensive player -> Genius wins when he reaches the late-game with a decent economy. He played greedy and didn't think Ret had a roach hydra three base push in his bag of tricks.

Don't want to take anything away from Ret, but TBH what he did in game 3 was the Z equivalent of what Genius did in game 2.

Roach/Hydra timing push only has one narrow window before too many col are out. Genius failed to read that build coming early enough to prepare for it so he lost.

so there we have two game where they both try similar things, an ret wins one by holding and the other by pushing. why do you say it like it's some kind of slander?
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
April 22 2012 16:41 GMT
#2727
Why are people speaking of Line when his teammate Life is doing much better right now and is FAR better in ZvZ ?! I miss tree.hugger and fionn posting
Heouf
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands787 Posts
April 22 2012 16:41 GMT
#2728
To bad Naniwa got knocked out. I think that Polt will win it all from now on. Don't see anybody that could stop him.
Gokba Alhakel
Denar
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1633 Posts
April 22 2012 16:41 GMT
#2729
Madeon and then Justice, French electro rocking Dreamhack :D
Sea_aeS
Profile Joined November 2011
1025 Posts
April 22 2012 16:41 GMT
#2730
On April 23 2012 01:33 hifriend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 01:30 dragonborn wrote:
On April 23 2012 01:30 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Honestly think Nerchio will 2-0 Monster easily. He probably has the best foreign ZvZ

sorry, its stephano.

nerchio and stephano are pretty comparable vZ I'd say


I ve seen STephano rape so many times Nerchio so i dont know ....
0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Spain2464 Posts
April 22 2012 16:41 GMT
#2731
No korean guaranteed in the finals yet. We are witnessing history.
CruiseR
Profile Joined November 2004
Poland4014 Posts
April 22 2012 16:41 GMT
#2732
On April 23 2012 01:40 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 01:38 Azarkon wrote:
On April 23 2012 01:36 Benjamin99 wrote:
On April 23 2012 01:33 hifriend wrote:
On April 23 2012 01:30 dragonborn wrote:
On April 23 2012 01:30 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Honestly think Nerchio will 2-0 Monster easily. He probably has the best foreign ZvZ

sorry, its stephano.

nerchio and stephano are pretty comparable vZ I'd say


Not really Stephano made Nerchio play Terran the last game in a bo5

But then again nothign to be ashamed of Nerchio got ill say defiantly a high lvl ZvZ and only the veyr best ZvZ players in the world can beat him. Monster got no chance with his 38% win ratio.

And the most impressive thing about Nerchio is he isnt even a full time pro like Idra,Ret etc and he is still just as good if not better



The thing is, Stephano is an adaptive player - he adapts to people he plays and finds ways to beat them - ala Polt who he had a huge losing record vs. but then smashed in Lone Star Cup. Stephano adapted to Nerchio, but their record vs. other Zergs is around the same level. Both took a game off of Nestea, but neither were able to beat Nestea, for example.


Stephano also played Nestea at one of the biggest tournaments in the world whereas Nerchio played him online....


does that say anything about the skill? no. it's clear that stephano is more experienced at offline events and he deals with the stress/tension better.

and comparing their matchups, i think zvz and zvt is comparable but in zvp stephano is far better.
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
April 22 2012 16:42 GMT
#2733
AWWW yeah gettin some daft punk up in hurr
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 22 2012 16:42 GMT
#2734
On April 23 2012 01:40 iAmBiGbiRd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 01:38 Azarkon wrote:
On April 23 2012 01:36 Benjamin99 wrote:
On April 23 2012 01:33 hifriend wrote:
On April 23 2012 01:30 dragonborn wrote:
On April 23 2012 01:30 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Honestly think Nerchio will 2-0 Monster easily. He probably has the best foreign ZvZ

sorry, its stephano.

nerchio and stephano are pretty comparable vZ I'd say


Not really Stephano made Nerchio play Terran the last game in a bo5

But then again nothign to be ashamed of Nerchio got ill say defiantly a high lvl ZvZ and only the veyr best ZvZ players in the world can beat him. Monster got no chance with his 38% win ratio.

And the most impressive thing about Nerchio is he isnt even a full time pro like Idra,Ret etc and he is still just as good if not better



The thing is, Stephano is an adaptive player - he adapts to people he plays and finds ways to beat them - ala Polt who he had a huge losing record vs. but then smashed in Lone Star Cup. Stephano adapted to Nerchio, but their record vs. other Zergs is around the same level. Both took a game off of Nestea, but neither were able to beat Nestea, for example.


Stephano also played Nestea at one of the biggest tournaments in the world whereas Nerchio played him online....


Was an example. Stephano's overall ZvZ is ~67.8%, Nerchio's is ~68.8%. No big difference is what I'm saying.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-22 16:42:55
April 22 2012 16:42 GMT
#2735
On April 23 2012 01:42 sc14s wrote:
AWWW yeah gettin some daft punk up in hurr

pretty sure this is Justice

...the poor man's Daft Punk

edit: I'm endlessly curious whether DH actually has rights to any of this music o.o
✌
Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
April 22 2012 16:42 GMT
#2736
I'm glad a big tournament finally has a good interviewer in Incontrol. It just makes interviews so much better if the questions are coming from someone who knows what he's talking about instead of some chicks who know nothing about the game and ask akward questions.
Shanuh
Profile Joined February 2011
3 Posts
April 22 2012 16:42 GMT
#2737
I just love the production (music!) dreamhack showing!
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
April 22 2012 16:42 GMT
#2738
On April 23 2012 01:41 Heouf wrote:
To bad Naniwa got knocked out. I think that Polt will win it all from now on. Don't see anybody that could stop him.

thorzain can do it!!

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=1795&part=games&league=standard#tblt-2856-1-default-0-polt
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
April 22 2012 16:42 GMT
#2739
I find commentaries are nice, I watched a lot of describing commentators those days, but wolf & appolo are trying to analyse and help us to understand what is happening. So nice to don't hear the stalkers are shooting roaches. Wow huge army! And those kind of comments for blind gamers.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
April 22 2012 16:43 GMT
#2740
On April 23 2012 01:36 Rk0 wrote:
All the music and soundtracks that Dreamhack is using is really awesome, it really gives this event an awesome atmosphere. Especially after Ret just won and between the games the music is just really superb. All the other big tournaments can really learn a ton from this event.


Justice is ok but I'd still take Kpop over them in any Starcraft tournament
Everyday Girl's Day~!
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