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HaXeR
Profile Joined December 2011
Czech Republic189 Posts
April 22 2012 15:36 GMT
#2141
On April 23 2012 00:31 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 00:31 HaXeR wrote:
On April 23 2012 00:29 TheDougler wrote:
On April 23 2012 00:25 trinxified wrote:
Taeja isn't Top 5 Terran, yet alone Top 10 to be honest.

1. MarineKing
2. MMA
3. Mvp
4. Jjakji
5. Polt
6. aLive
7. Supernova
8. Ganzi
9. Bomber
10. GhostKing


Taeja is easily better than ghostking who even when he was byun never put up significant results, and bomber hasn't been relevant for months.

Taeja is good, but i feel he is overhyped now, because he joined Liquid. He need some result in big tournaments.


Is eliminating two GSL champions in a row in Code S not big tournament results?

No.
Even GSL Champions are sometimes in slump. A lot of players have code s champions scalps under their belts.
iAmBiGbiRd
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia1029 Posts
April 22 2012 15:36 GMT
#2142
On April 23 2012 00:33 siii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 00:31 MCDayC wrote:
On April 23 2012 00:29 Noocta wrote:
On April 23 2012 00:28 sc14s wrote:
On April 23 2012 00:27 shabby wrote:
On April 23 2012 00:17 hugman wrote:
On April 23 2012 00:11 shabby wrote:
Man Thorzain vs Genius finals would be so great. Thorzain got the sickest TvP.


That was a year ago in TSL3
Not now


Nah its still really good. No one micros TvP battles like him. He actually stutters back fighting zealots while vikings kill colossus, and he has very good EMP aim. Most people stim and split, lose vikings or miss with EMPs, or any combination of them.

mkp called, he wants to talk with you about this statement.


You could say he's one of the best foreigner at TvP.. but really, there isn't much competition.

Yeah, who's would be better? DeMuslim? Not at all, no body is comparable at TvP outside of Korea, or in general TvX to Thorzain.


Kas' TvP is up there with Thorzain to be honest.


I would say LucifroN and ThorZaiN have the best foreign TvP then Kas and DeMu
Hello friends:)
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
April 22 2012 15:37 GMT
#2143
LETS GO RET!!!!!

beat this arrogant kid!!!!
Hemula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Russian Federation1849 Posts
April 22 2012 15:37 GMT
#2144
Wow, I came home today too late, just noticed this:
1. Genius5-3
2. Nerchio4-2
3. sLivko3-4
4. NaNiwa2-5

Here you go GSL top 8. Lol. What the heck? How did the games go?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50245 Posts
April 22 2012 15:37 GMT
#2145
JOS!!!!!!
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 22 2012 15:37 GMT
#2146
On April 23 2012 00:35 poorcloud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 00:31 Dodgin wrote:
On April 23 2012 00:31 HaXeR wrote:
On April 23 2012 00:29 TheDougler wrote:
On April 23 2012 00:25 trinxified wrote:
Taeja isn't Top 5 Terran, yet alone Top 10 to be honest.

1. MarineKing
2. MMA
3. Mvp
4. Jjakji
5. Polt
6. aLive
7. Supernova
8. Ganzi
9. Bomber
10. GhostKing


Taeja is easily better than ghostking who even when he was byun never put up significant results, and bomber hasn't been relevant for months.

Taeja is good, but i feel he is overhyped now, because he joined Liquid. He need some result in big tournaments.


Is eliminating two GSL champions in a row in Code S not big tournament results?


Yes but he needs to win the whole thing + have a few other championships to be called the best or be ranked top tier. Right now he is still very good but not good enough to be called the very top tier of korean terrans.

If he loses in the next round, what is there to differentiate him from someone like virus, who even beat Nestea and MC in previous rounds? Yet, virus is not even in most peoples top 10 list.


Going that route you're never going to discover players before they start winning big tournaments, after which their success is obvious to all. A smart observer needs to be able to see great players before they score huge wins.
Inhumane
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada145 Posts
April 22 2012 15:38 GMT
#2147
Is the stream quality worse than Day 1...?
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
April 22 2012 15:38 GMT
#2148
TLO will soon have a viking beard.

http://www.jelldragon.com/images2/beard_ring.jpg
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
chosenkerrigan
Profile Joined May 2011
858 Posts
April 22 2012 15:38 GMT
#2149
"Ret has a lot more LAN experience than Genius."
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
April 22 2012 15:38 GMT
#2150
On April 23 2012 00:37 Hemula wrote:
Wow, I came home today too late, just noticed this:
1. Genius5-3
2. Nerchio4-2
3. sLivko3-4
4. NaNiwa2-5

Here you go GSL top 8. Lol. What the heck? How did the games go?


As it has been stated like 500 times already, Naniwa said in an interview that he only practiced PvP and PvT for GSL and thus was very underprepared in PvZ. He did demolish Genius, though.
#1 Grubby Fan.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
April 22 2012 15:38 GMT
#2151
On April 23 2012 00:33 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 00:27 AxionSteel wrote:
On April 23 2012 00:22 Azarkon wrote:
On April 23 2012 00:18 Noocta wrote:
On April 23 2012 00:16 Azarkon wrote:
On April 23 2012 00:13 Noocta wrote:
On April 23 2012 00:12 Azarkon wrote:
Best Terrans in the world - MKP and Taeja.

Polt is right below that, staying in the company of MMA, theSTC, Supernova, MVP, Jjakji, etc.


Getting picked by TL doesn't bring you to this kind of status, even when you want to believe that. :<


Nothing to do with being picked up by TL. Taeja is there because he's very solid in all three match-ups, which is the same for MKP. He's Rank 1 in ELO because he's beaten a shit load of top players.


TaeJa is rank1 ELO because he stomped Korean Weekly, which are played by mostly Code B players. ( which are good, but code B for a reason )


Uh, no. His recent matches in the GSL:

3-2 Jjakji
2-0 DRG
2-0 Squirtle
2-0 Lucky

He's never shown the match up weakness that MMA vs. Protoss and MVP vs. Protoss are, and IIRC people in Korea are saying that his TvZ is unbeatable at the moment. That leaves TvT, and he stomped Jjakji in TvT in two separate tournaments, so where does that leave him?


So a few wins makes him the top Terran player in the world? People think MarineKing still has a lot to prove to get that status lol, TaeJa has everest to climb in comparison.

If you're going to call Mvp's TvP bad (it's not), I'd say TaeJa's tvt was never TOP TOP TOP notch either (neither is Jjakji's, by the way).



We're talking about right now, aren't we?

MVP is the best Terran player in SC 2 of all time, but right now he's not Top 3. Same for MMA - until he is able to TvP his way out of a paper bag, he's not at the very top.

Taeja creamed Squirtle, whose PvT creamed both MKP and MMA in MLG. He TvTs better than Jjakji. His TvZ is top tier. He's my vote for Top 2 Terran until other Terrans step it up.


You have good points, but generally when someone is considered "the best in the world" at something, they have to have a major title behind them or something like that, at least that's what most people seem to think. MarineKing for mine is easily the best terran atm, his consistency this year has been superb.
I'm a taeja fan, when I watch his stream i am blown away by how good he is to watch, such talent, but I don't think he can be put up there with MKP at this stage!
As an Mvp fanboy it hurts that he doesn't play as well as he used to due to injuries, but inspiring that he remains so competitive.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
April 22 2012 15:38 GMT
#2152
Ret being overhyped. No chance against Genius.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
April 22 2012 15:38 GMT
#2153
On April 23 2012 00:37 Hemula wrote:
Wow, I came home today too late, just noticed this:
1. Genius5-3
2. Nerchio4-2
3. sLivko3-4
4. NaNiwa2-5

Here you go GSL top 8. Lol. What the heck? How did the games go?


Naniwa lost to all the zergs he met because he didn't practice vs z for 30 days.

Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Andamanen
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands915 Posts
April 22 2012 15:39 GMT
#2154
Speaking of the Blizz EU qualifier, would 5 hatch hydra work here?

(That was a nice game vs. Naniwa)
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
April 22 2012 15:39 GMT
#2155
On April 23 2012 00:37 Hemula wrote:
Wow, I came home today too late, just noticed this:
1. Genius5-3
2. Nerchio4-2
3. sLivko3-4
4. NaNiwa2-5

Here you go GSL top 8. Lol. What the heck? How did the games go?


well, naniwa lost 0-2 0-2 vs the zergs, he says he didnt train PvZ at all, although he should still win against slivko and probably even nerchio imo... its not like you forget everything, right?
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
April 22 2012 15:39 GMT
#2156
On April 23 2012 00:38 Inhumane wrote:
Is the stream quality worse than Day 1...?


Yes, it seems like that to me as well. 720+p is pixelated today for me.
#1 Grubby Fan.
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
April 22 2012 15:39 GMT
#2157
On April 23 2012 00:38 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 00:37 Hemula wrote:
Wow, I came home today too late, just noticed this:
1. Genius5-3
2. Nerchio4-2
3. sLivko3-4
4. NaNiwa2-5

Here you go GSL top 8. Lol. What the heck? How did the games go?


Naniwa lost to all the zergs he met because he didn't practice vs z for 30 days.



And somehow he forgot how to play PvZ completely
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
April 22 2012 15:39 GMT
#2158
On April 23 2012 00:37 Hemula wrote:
Wow, I came home today too late, just noticed this:
1. Genius5-3
2. Nerchio4-2
3. sLivko3-4
4. NaNiwa2-5

Here you go GSL top 8. Lol. What the heck? How did the games go?

He got raped pretty much. But he said in a swedish interview he hasn't practiced against zerg in about a month so he didn't have too high expectations.
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
Hemula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Russian Federation1849 Posts
April 22 2012 15:40 GMT
#2159
On April 23 2012 00:38 Derrida wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 00:37 Hemula wrote:
Wow, I came home today too late, just noticed this:
1. Genius5-3
2. Nerchio4-2
3. sLivko3-4
4. NaNiwa2-5

Here you go GSL top 8. Lol. What the heck? How did the games go?


As it has been stated like 500 times already, Naniwa said in an interview that he only practiced PvP and PvT for GSL and thus was very underprepared in PvZ. He did demolish Genius, though.

Thank you and sorry, as I said I came home late and thus have not read the whole thread.
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
April 22 2012 15:40 GMT
#2160
How did Nani get knocked out?
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
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