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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 17:43:55
April 21 2012 17:42 GMT
#1581
On April 22 2012 02:37 dragonborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 02:36 flowSthead wrote:
On April 22 2012 02:32 Champloo wrote:
Bischu's and Mana's groups are the only ones hard to predict, but that's because they both didn't win their groups vs nobodies. All the other groups have pretty clear favorites.

Pretty sure TLO is gonna be the first full time pro to get eliminated, bye bye.


You would pick Snute over TLO? I'm not too sure about that. I don't think the skill difference between them is big enough to call.

i would pick Snute over TLO/MaNa, and TLO over MaNa.

MaNa's PvZ is terrrrrrrible.


The only question is: What is more terrible? MaNa's PvZ or TLO's ZvP?

Hard call, but I'm going with MaNa winning it.
KillAudio
Profile Joined October 2010
1364 Posts
April 21 2012 17:45 GMT
#1582
Any games live yet?
From a scale of sheth to idra, how mad are you?
vol_
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1608 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 17:46:02
April 21 2012 17:45 GMT
#1583
On April 22 2012 02:42 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Haha, nice warm up before second stage:

[image loading]

From @dreamhack

I don't need mouse+keyboard to own these white dudes.
Jaedong gives me a deep resonance.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
April 21 2012 17:48 GMT
#1584
why does everyone think manas PvZ is still aweful?
he got quite decent at it, he wins more then he losses at least vs sheth in cgs
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 17:54:10
April 21 2012 17:49 GMT
#1585
On April 22 2012 02:48 KalWarkov wrote:
why does everyone think manas PvZ is still aweful?
he got quite decent at it, he wins more then he losses at least vs sheth in cgs


His recent record in TLPD does look awful (15-29 which is 34% against Zerg in the last two months, 4-12 in series), but I don't think he is as bad against Zerg as we are making him out to be, I have to agree.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24995 Posts
April 21 2012 17:55 GMT
#1586
On April 22 2012 02:49 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 02:48 KalWarkov wrote:
why does everyone think manas PvZ is still aweful?
he got quite decent at it, he wins more then he losses at least vs sheth in cgs


His recent record in TLPD does look awful (15-29 which is 34% against Zerg in the last two months, 4-12 in series), but I don't think he is as bad against Zerg as we are making him out to be, I have to agree.

Mana's pretty competent at the game in general and eats up bad/decent Zergs for breakfast, or Zergs with especially bad ZvP, he just seems to NEVER beat the actual good Zerg players of that matchup, kind of strange.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
April 21 2012 17:55 GMT
#1587
On April 22 2012 02:07 Kraznaya wrote:
there's still zero drama in the second group stage since there's a maximum of two known players per group :/


To be fair, group C and group K each have 3 pretty well known players. Plus there's still always the chance of an upset.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
flowSthead
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1065 Posts
April 21 2012 17:57 GMT
#1588
On April 22 2012 02:55 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 02:07 Kraznaya wrote:
there's still zero drama in the second group stage since there's a maximum of two known players per group :/


To be fair, group C and group K each have 3 pretty well known players. Plus there's still always the chance of an upset.


2 groups out of 16 isn't particularly exciting and you can't rely on upsets. The games could still be good though, but the storylines are fairly minimal at this point.
"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler █ MVP ■ MC ■ Boxer ■ Grubby █
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
April 21 2012 17:58 GMT
#1589
On April 22 2012 02:25 JoRoSaR wrote:
At 19.30 UK / 20.30 CET (1h05m from now) I will be casting groups G and H:

G: Dekran, robih, TSLHyuN, QuanticNaNi
H: Patjuh, dignitas.Merz, Forsen, RoxKIS.Slivko

I'll be on the community stream at twitch.tv/jorosar but no doubt the main casters will dip in to check out some of the players as well <3


First time listening to your casts and they've been fantastic so far!
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
ApolloSC2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United Kingdom804 Posts
April 21 2012 17:59 GMT
#1590
Going live in 20mins :D:D See you shortly!!!!
www.twitter.com/apollosc2
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
April 21 2012 18:00 GMT
#1591
On April 22 2012 02:55 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 02:49 StarVe wrote:
On April 22 2012 02:48 KalWarkov wrote:
why does everyone think manas PvZ is still aweful?
he got quite decent at it, he wins more then he losses at least vs sheth in cgs


His recent record in TLPD does look awful (15-29 which is 34% against Zerg in the last two months, 4-12 in series), but I don't think he is as bad against Zerg as we are making him out to be, I have to agree.

Mana's pretty competent at the game in general and eats up bad/decent Zergs for breakfast, or Zergs with especially bad ZvP, he just seems to NEVER beat the actual good Zerg players of that matchup, kind of strange.

I think this is basically it. Whereas his PvP and PvT are both fully capable of upsetting seemingly better players (Mana has beaten MC, Puma etc) he's never really scored a big win in PvZ, it's resolutely average.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
April 21 2012 18:01 GMT
#1592
I got a feeling Nerchio gonna do very well this tournament
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
April 21 2012 18:01 GMT
#1593
On April 22 2012 03:00 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 02:55 Wombat_NI wrote:
On April 22 2012 02:49 StarVe wrote:
On April 22 2012 02:48 KalWarkov wrote:
why does everyone think manas PvZ is still aweful?
he got quite decent at it, he wins more then he losses at least vs sheth in cgs


His recent record in TLPD does look awful (15-29 which is 34% against Zerg in the last two months, 4-12 in series), but I don't think he is as bad against Zerg as we are making him out to be, I have to agree.

Mana's pretty competent at the game in general and eats up bad/decent Zergs for breakfast, or Zergs with especially bad ZvP, he just seems to NEVER beat the actual good Zerg players of that matchup, kind of strange.

I think this is basically it. Whereas his PvP and PvT are both fully capable of upsetting seemingly better players (Mana has beaten MC, Puma etc) he's never really scored a big win in PvZ, it's resolutely average.

actually he beat DRG at IPTL 3 semi finals :D

but yeah, i still dont like MaNa's PvZ.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
April 21 2012 18:02 GMT
#1594
On April 22 2012 03:01 dragonborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 03:00 MCDayC wrote:
On April 22 2012 02:55 Wombat_NI wrote:
On April 22 2012 02:49 StarVe wrote:
On April 22 2012 02:48 KalWarkov wrote:
why does everyone think manas PvZ is still aweful?
he got quite decent at it, he wins more then he losses at least vs sheth in cgs


His recent record in TLPD does look awful (15-29 which is 34% against Zerg in the last two months, 4-12 in series), but I don't think he is as bad against Zerg as we are making him out to be, I have to agree.

Mana's pretty competent at the game in general and eats up bad/decent Zergs for breakfast, or Zergs with especially bad ZvP, he just seems to NEVER beat the actual good Zerg players of that matchup, kind of strange.

I think this is basically it. Whereas his PvP and PvT are both fully capable of upsetting seemingly better players (Mana has beaten MC, Puma etc) he's never really scored a big win in PvZ, it's resolutely average.

actually he beat DRG at IPTL 3 semi finals :D

but yeah, i still dont like MaNa's PvZ.

The exception to every rule
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Kkxtrouble
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil575 Posts
April 21 2012 18:03 GMT
#1595
On April 22 2012 02:55 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 02:07 Kraznaya wrote:
there's still zero drama in the second group stage since there's a maximum of two known players per group :/


To be fair, group C and group K each have 3 pretty well known players. Plus there's still always the chance of an upset.


Not to mention we also have genious and puma in group M and Naniwa and Hyun in group G.
It's important to remember that only the 1st advances.
I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand
flowSthead
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1065 Posts
April 21 2012 18:04 GMT
#1596
I think I'm most interested in Naniwa/Hyun. Naniwa says he has a poor PvZ so it'll be interesting to see if he can take Hyun.
"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler █ MVP ■ MC ■ Boxer ■ Grubby █
Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
April 21 2012 18:05 GMT
#1597
On April 22 2012 03:03 Kkxtrouble wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 02:55 TheDougler wrote:
On April 22 2012 02:07 Kraznaya wrote:
there's still zero drama in the second group stage since there's a maximum of two known players per group :/


To be fair, group C and group K each have 3 pretty well known players. Plus there's still always the chance of an upset.


Not to mention we also have genious and puma in group M and Naniwa and Hyun in group G.
It's important to remember that only the 1st advances.


Top 2 advance.
ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1770 Posts
April 21 2012 18:05 GMT
#1598
Really terrible format. Round two and the only thing we have to discuss is which mid-level pro out of TLO, Mana and Snute will be eliminated.
Kkxtrouble
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil575 Posts
April 21 2012 18:08 GMT
#1599
On April 22 2012 03:05 Champloo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 03:03 Kkxtrouble wrote:
On April 22 2012 02:55 TheDougler wrote:
On April 22 2012 02:07 Kraznaya wrote:
there's still zero drama in the second group stage since there's a maximum of two known players per group :/


To be fair, group C and group K each have 3 pretty well known players. Plus there's still always the chance of an upset.


Not to mention we also have genious and puma in group M and Naniwa and Hyun in group G.
It's important to remember that only the 1st advances.


Top 2 advance.


Oh you're right, completely overlooked that there was another group stage.
I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
April 21 2012 18:08 GMT
#1600
On April 22 2012 03:05 ssg wrote:
Really terrible format. Round two and the only thing we have to discuss is which mid-level pro out of TLO, Mana and Snute will be eliminated.

Think of this as round 2 of an MLG open bracket. The only difference is that there is not a pool play filled with pros playing out alongside it.
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