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On April 17 2012 19:57 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 19:51 rauk wrote:
war3 players don't have any trouble with sc2.... for instance every single relevant foreigner bar huk is a war3 player. Not that WC3 players arent doing good in Europe, but that's an overstatement isn't it? I'm not sure how you define relevant but..... MorroW Ret Sheth IdrA Dimaga White-ra Mana Socke Strelok ClouD To name a few o.o If by "relevant" you mean serious title contenders vs fields of Koreans then it's pretty much Huk, Stephano and arguaaaaaaaaaably Naniwa... Which is 3 players lol Maybe Thorzain or Kas too?
Thorzain and Kas ranked above Huk and Naniwa in WC3 I'm pretty sure.
Also Grubby and SaSe are ex-WC3. ToD is also ex-WC3, not sure what happened to him in SC2.
I don't want to get between your argument, just wanted to point out a few people 
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On April 17 2012 20:03 Ruscour wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 20:01 PapaJed wrote:On April 17 2012 19:59 Ruscour wrote:On April 17 2012 19:57 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On April 17 2012 19:51 rauk wrote:
war3 players don't have any trouble with sc2.... for instance every single relevant foreigner bar huk is a war3 player. Not that WC3 players arent doing good in Europe, but that's an overstatement isn't it? I'm not sure how you define relevant but..... MorroW Ret Sheth IdrA Dimaga White-ra Mana Socke Strelok ClouD To name a few o.o If by "relevant" you mean serious title contenders vs fields of Koreans then it's pretty much Huk, Stephano and arguaaaaaaaaaably Naniwa... Which is 3 players lol Maybe Thorzain or Kas too? arguaaaaaaaaaably is in Ro16 Code S? He´s just being modest. Only a few foreigners have gone past ro16 ( I can think of three) Jinro, IdrA and who? I don't recall another foreigner making Ro8, correct me if I'm wrong...
Huk made r8 once ^^
r32 = bo1 groups:
beat killer, lost to bomber, beat killer.
beat Nada 2-1 in r16
lost 3-0 to MVP in r8
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HuK about to bitchslap hack back to code B!
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On April 17 2012 20:02 Talionis wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 20:02 GDbushido wrote:
screw dream theater we need some symphony x up in this bitch Definitely. We need Heretic back!
Eternal tears of sorrow pwns all
Also which dream theater song is this >_>?
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C'mon HuK! you were so close to code S this season, please win this!
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And now the part where I actually care who wins :D
Gogogogogo huk, pls don't go down to code b.
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Need some more variety with these songs, this DT song is really bad (they have a couple of decent songs that they could use instead).
BtBaM please.
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Hack will cheese HuK to death.
Or the other way around :p
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On April 17 2012 20:03 Adreme wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 20:01 Hider wrote:On April 17 2012 19:55 Jono7272 wrote:On April 17 2012 19:51 Hider wrote:On April 17 2012 19:47 yoshi245 wrote:On April 17 2012 19:44 Hider wrote:
I feel both players are kinda overrated imo. Neither is definitely not code s material. How is Soccer overrated? Or are you over-rating him by the praise Khaldor and Artosis are giving? He hasn't done anything in SC2 worthy of note, when he was in WeMadeFOX, he was subpar and easily outshined by Naniwa as F.United's top toss player during their run in GSTL. If anything I guess he's underrated after putting up that performance (excluding the horrific move command blunder). Well Artosis is prasing him, and since I kinda know how people react, everybody will start thinking this protoss is pretty good (just made 1 bad mistake). This guy isn't good. He played badly as well through the whole game. I think aLive outplayed him all game. Not sure how good Soccer is really, his build was good anyway :p Alive outplayed him in what way? Building cloack banshees and attacking because soccers robo was idle for 20 seconds? And then you do way too much damage because socccer has terrible multitasking? And for some weird reason you get ahead 200 food to 140 food even though you "only killed around 20 probes at that time (like 10 too many). Alives harass play was nothing fantastic. He just had solid macro and soccer had terrible macro and terrible multitasking and got insanely far behind. Then alive kinda overcommited, then soccer kinda overcommited. Then soccer underproduced HT and followed it by movecommanding. This was just a mediocore game by alive who made a few mistakes and won against a bad protoss player (trust me on this - this guy isn't GSL material.) Those seem like pretty good examples of outplaying someone.
It's not so much alive outplaying soccer rather than soccer playing poorly.
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On April 17 2012 20:03 Kar98 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 20:02 Talionis wrote:On April 17 2012 20:02 GDbushido wrote:
screw dream theater we need some symphony x up in this bitch Definitely. We need Heretic back! Eternal tears of sorrow pwns all Also which dream theater song is this >_>?
On the Back of Angels
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Symphony X > Everything.
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37041 Posts
Was that Bomber in the intro?
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for those who are asking:
Dream Theatre - On the Backs of Angels
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On April 17 2012 20:03 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 20:03 Ruscour wrote:On April 17 2012 20:01 PapaJed wrote:On April 17 2012 19:59 Ruscour wrote:On April 17 2012 19:57 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On April 17 2012 19:51 rauk wrote:
war3 players don't have any trouble with sc2.... for instance every single relevant foreigner bar huk is a war3 player. Not that WC3 players arent doing good in Europe, but that's an overstatement isn't it? I'm not sure how you define relevant but..... MorroW Ret Sheth IdrA Dimaga White-ra Mana Socke Strelok ClouD To name a few o.o If by "relevant" you mean serious title contenders vs fields of Koreans then it's pretty much Huk, Stephano and arguaaaaaaaaaably Naniwa... Which is 3 players lol Maybe Thorzain or Kas too? arguaaaaaaaaaably is in Ro16 Code S? He´s just being modest. Only a few foreigners have gone past ro16 ( I can think of three) Jinro, IdrA and who? I don't recall another foreigner making Ro8, correct me if I'm wrong... Huk made r8 once ^^ groups: beat killer, lost to bomber, beat killer. beat Nada 2-1 in r16 lost 3-0 to MVP in r8
The games against MVP were very lulzy 
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On April 17 2012 20:03 zefreak wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 19:59 Mobsy wrote:On April 17 2012 19:57 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On April 17 2012 19:51 rauk wrote:
war3 players don't have any trouble with sc2.... for instance every single relevant foreigner bar huk is a war3 player. Not that WC3 players arent doing good in Europe, but that's an overstatement isn't it? I'm not sure how you define relevant but..... MorroW Ret Sheth IdrA Dimaga White-ra Mana Socke Strelok ClouD To name a few o.o If by "relevant" you mean serious title contenders vs fields of Koreans then it's pretty much Huk, Stephano and arguaaaaaaaaaably Naniwa... Which is 3 players lol Maybe Thorzain or Kas too? You forgot ToD and Grubby and SaSe Not if you define relevant as serious title contenders.
I define relevent as in top 10 foreigner:
1. HuK
2. Stephano
3. NaNiwa
4. IdrA
5.MorroW
6.ThorzaiN
7.ToD
8.SaSe
9.Grubby
10.Feast
That would be my list of top 10 foreigners. 6 of which are from Wc3.
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On April 17 2012 20:05 IMPrime wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 20:03 Adreme wrote:On April 17 2012 20:01 Hider wrote:On April 17 2012 19:55 Jono7272 wrote:On April 17 2012 19:51 Hider wrote:On April 17 2012 19:47 yoshi245 wrote:On April 17 2012 19:44 Hider wrote:
I feel both players are kinda overrated imo. Neither is definitely not code s material. How is Soccer overrated? Or are you over-rating him by the praise Khaldor and Artosis are giving? He hasn't done anything in SC2 worthy of note, when he was in WeMadeFOX, he was subpar and easily outshined by Naniwa as F.United's top toss player during their run in GSTL. If anything I guess he's underrated after putting up that performance (excluding the horrific move command blunder). Well Artosis is prasing him, and since I kinda know how people react, everybody will start thinking this protoss is pretty good (just made 1 bad mistake). This guy isn't good. He played badly as well through the whole game. I think aLive outplayed him all game. Not sure how good Soccer is really, his build was good anyway :p Alive outplayed him in what way? Building cloack banshees and attacking because soccers robo was idle for 20 seconds? And then you do way too much damage because socccer has terrible multitasking? And for some weird reason you get ahead 200 food to 140 food even though you "only killed around 20 probes at that time (like 10 too many). Alives harass play was nothing fantastic. He just had solid macro and soccer had terrible macro and terrible multitasking and got insanely far behind. Then alive kinda overcommited, then soccer kinda overcommited. Then soccer underproduced HT and followed it by movecommanding. This was just a mediocore game by alive who made a few mistakes and won against a bad protoss player (trust me on this - this guy isn't GSL material.) Those seem like pretty good examples of outplaying someone. It's not so much alive outplaying soccer rather than soccer playing poorly.
If one guy is playing poorly and you are not playing poorly how are you not outplaying him?
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On April 17 2012 20:02 MrKn4rz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 19:58 keeperton wrote:On April 17 2012 19:55 bokchoi wrote:On April 17 2012 19:54 rothsbury wrote:
...surely that was a lie about chrono making the shield recharge faster. Use Chrono Boost also allows a building to regenerate shields quicker. Keep in mind that it does not allow shields to regenerate if building is under attack. It is important to note that Chrono Boost also has the effect of reducing the warp-in cooldown time on Warpgates it is cast on. While Chrono Boost cannot be used on an ally's buildings in a team game, if you control Zerg or Terran buildings they can also be Chrono Boosted. Zerg Cocoons cannot be Chrono Boosted. Chrono Boost will also have an effect on morphing buildings (such as Planetary Fortresses) and on the timer for Spawn Larva used by Queens. Competitive Usage (From Liquipedia) I've seen Zergs neural a probe and build a nexus to chrono their spires and evos before. Always amusing. Also Barracks etc. fly faster when being chrono boosted.
Wow is that really true or are you trolling?
Because my mind is being blown
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On April 17 2012 20:01 Hider wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 19:55 Jono7272 wrote:On April 17 2012 19:51 Hider wrote:On April 17 2012 19:47 yoshi245 wrote:On April 17 2012 19:44 Hider wrote:
I feel both players are kinda overrated imo. Neither is definitely not code s material. How is Soccer overrated? Or are you over-rating him by the praise Khaldor and Artosis are giving? He hasn't done anything in SC2 worthy of note, when he was in WeMadeFOX, he was subpar and easily outshined by Naniwa as F.United's top toss player during their run in GSTL. If anything I guess he's underrated after putting up that performance (excluding the horrific move command blunder). Well Artosis is prasing him, and since I kinda know how people react, everybody will start thinking this protoss is pretty good (just made 1 bad mistake). This guy isn't good. He played badly as well through the whole game. I think aLive outplayed him all game. Not sure how good Soccer is really, his build was good anyway :p Alive outplayed him in what way? Building cloack banshees and attacking because soccers robo was idle for 20 seconds? And then you do way too much damage because socccer has terrible multitasking? And for some weird reason you get ahead 200 food to 140 food even though you "only killed around 20 probes at that time (like 10 too many). Alives harass play was nothing fantastic. He just had solid macro and soccer had terrible macro and terrible multitasking and got insanely far behind. Then alive kinda overcommited, then soccer kinda overcommited. Then soccer underproduced HT and followed it by movecommanding. This was just a mediocore game by alive who made a few mistakes and won against a bad (bad in relation to most GSL players) protoss player (trust me on this - this guy isn't GSL material.)
Uhm... All of the ways you just mentioned are ways in which Alive outplayed Soccer. According to you he had less terrible multitasking(better multitasking) and had solid macro. How is that not outplaying again? Playing better = outplaying.
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+ Show Spoiler +On April 17 2012 20:02 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 20:00 pdd wrote:
Wait. I thought Hyun was still unimpressive at SC2? What did I miss? nothing, they are overselling him. Hyun's still rather mediocre. His best achievement to date is winning some small EU cups. 57% int win rate. Show nested quote +On April 17 2012 20:00 Vindicare605 wrote:On April 17 2012 19:59 Asha` wrote:On April 17 2012 19:58 Inflicted_ wrote:On April 17 2012 19:58 ragnorr wrote:On April 17 2012 19:57 rothsbury wrote:
...what sort of gg was that? He was supply blocked, he would have have to run back and clean up the drop which would kill all his probes Could've attacked up the ramp, and tried at least. Gateway units up a choke vs MM with it's necessary upgrades and medivac support? =p And Stim. Don't forget stim necessary upgrades (stim/shields/shells)
But stim, you almost forgot stim, NEVER forget stim.
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go huk go big win big win!! -bites lip-
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EPT
such hard games. Show us some vs T magic 
