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THM
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria1131 Posts
April 15 2012 21:03 GMT
#701
Jesus fuckin christ, can't believe Foxer lost to 3 consecutive 2(1) base allins -_-

Well, he has only himself to blame... especially in that 1st game. I mean come on, I would've won that by building a bunker after my scv scouted a queen in the middle of the map. -_- -_- -_-

Oh well, there is still GSL I guess.
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
April 15 2012 21:03 GMT
#702
On April 16 2012 06:01 happyness wrote:
MKP lost those games horribly more than symbol won them.

These games are not at all indicitive of whether or not symbol is a good player.



Bullshit. Symbol played brilliantly. He was the man with a plan. And he executed it and MKP! MKP won MLG with games like the ones he played today.
Sp00ly
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1546 Posts
April 15 2012 21:03 GMT
#703
Well so much for my hope of MC MKP final. Oh well. Nestea got this now.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 15 2012 21:03 GMT
#704
On April 16 2012 06:02 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 05:59 hysterial wrote:
On April 16 2012 05:56 ZenithM wrote:
I wish MKP would show more MVP-esque type of play sometimes, against arguably weaker players. Keep all the fanciness and unpredictability for GSL series :/


His whole game is not solid standard play, he couldn't be successful with MVP-like gameplay.


Exactly- MKP only knows two ways to play- cheesy or greedy. Symbol was smart enough to find ways to exploit that fact.

It's only his vZ though. His TvP and TvT are fairly standard.
Lasbike
Profile Joined January 2011
France2888 Posts
April 15 2012 21:03 GMT
#705
Well that was... unexpected.
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
April 15 2012 21:03 GMT
#706
On April 16 2012 06:01 happyness wrote:
MKP lost those games horribly more than symbol won them.

These games are not at all indicitive of whether or not symbol is a good player.


Huh? Yes, they are. They didn't show late game skills, but they did show taking advantage of greed. Terrans skip marines and get 3 fast CC's all the time. I'm just glad it happened to MKP instead of MMA this time. MMA already had his Lucky...twice.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
April 15 2012 21:03 GMT
#707
On April 16 2012 06:02 Jisall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 06:01 happyness wrote:
MKP lost those games horribly more than symbol won them.

These games are not at all indicitive of whether or not symbol is a good player.


Just indicitive of how bad a player marineking is by that logic then?


No it's more indicative of how strong zerg cheese and all-ins are.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
April 15 2012 21:03 GMT
#708
On April 16 2012 06:03 Sp00ly wrote:
Well so much for my hope of MC MKP final. Oh well. Nestea got this now.


I think you forgot that MMA is there.
vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
April 15 2012 21:03 GMT
#709
When were these games played?

Also wtf happened that MKP lost to one of those forever Code A players? Didn't even bother to watch and I check the results and it's 0-3. THE HELL MKP!
ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
April 15 2012 21:04 GMT
#710
While I was rooting for MKP I have to admit Symbol played well. He knew both how to handle mkp's pressure and how to abuse MKP's greed. I still wouldn't favour him vs Nestea but I expect their games to be filled with subtle mindgames and clever little tricks on both their parts.

RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
April 15 2012 21:04 GMT
#711
TvZ finals secured. The nice thing about this result.
Someone call down the Thunder?
_Galad_
Profile Joined September 2011
Greece184 Posts
April 15 2012 21:04 GMT
#712
It's funny that in the 2 of the 3 games MKP was the one who bunker rushed and went for early aggresion and ppl blame Symbol that "all-ined" when he just did the right thing that was to kill MKP after he defended...
Channel the Light of Aiur...
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
April 15 2012 21:04 GMT
#713
On April 16 2012 06:03 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 06:02 tomatriedes wrote:
On April 16 2012 05:59 hysterial wrote:
On April 16 2012 05:56 ZenithM wrote:
I wish MKP would show more MVP-esque type of play sometimes, against arguably weaker players. Keep all the fanciness and unpredictability for GSL series :/


His whole game is not solid standard play, he couldn't be successful with MVP-like gameplay.


Exactly- MKP only knows two ways to play- cheesy or greedy. Symbol was smart enough to find ways to exploit that fact.

It's only his vZ though. His TvP and TvT are fairly standard.


His TvT is not standard in the slightest. Just like in TvZ he does a lot of one-base aggression.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-15 21:06:18
April 15 2012 21:05 GMT
#714
On April 16 2012 06:03 THM wrote:
Jesus fuckin christ, can't believe Foxer lost to 3 consecutive 2(1) base allins -_-

Well, he has only himself to blame... especially in that 1st game. I mean come on, I would've won that by building a bunker after my scv scouted a queen in the middle of the map. -_- -_- -_-

Oh well, there is still GSL I guess.

mkp skips so many corners in TvZ, that build was symbol playing the player and not the race. the othee 2 games were just symbol defending the random stuff mkp likes to do and getting a huge advantage
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-15 21:08:52
April 15 2012 21:05 GMT
#715
Just checked TLPD, that was the first time Marineking has ever lost to a Zerg three games in a row outside of one series to DRG in the FXO invitational in 2012.

Okay just checked every page, MKP has only ever lost three games in a row to zerg twice in his sc2 career, once to Losira and once to DRG.

Symbol making history!
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
April 15 2012 21:05 GMT
#716
On April 16 2012 06:00 Ansinjunger wrote:
I can see a MMA NesTea finals, but it could be anyone. MMA just play that mech you showed against Byun at IPL4.

I still wouldn't call this a huge milestone for Symbol though. It has to be a finals appearance. Byun, Ganzi, and aLive all made ro4 in GSL, but only aLive has lived up to some of the hype so far. For that matter, wth happened to TOP? I know he's code B, but just...qq Losira, too.

Being Ro4 of the GSL isn't hype. That's a testimony of performance. If you are looking for undeserved hype, there is ForGG.
Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
April 15 2012 21:05 GMT
#717
On April 16 2012 06:03 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 06:02 Jisall wrote:
On April 16 2012 06:01 happyness wrote:
MKP lost those games horribly more than symbol won them.

These games are not at all indicitive of whether or not symbol is a good player.


Just indicitive of how bad a player marineking is by that logic then?


No it's more indicative of how strong zerg cheese and all-ins are.


Agree with this. These days almost EVERY PRO TvZ build I see, dies against these allins. There is almost nothing to learn from pro terrans atm, since 90% of them do greedy builds that do not work vs allin .
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
April 15 2012 21:05 GMT
#718
On April 16 2012 06:03 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 06:02 Jisall wrote:
On April 16 2012 06:01 happyness wrote:
MKP lost those games horribly more than symbol won them.

These games are not at all indicitive of whether or not symbol is a good player.


Just indicitive of how bad a player marineking is by that logic then?


No it's more indicative of how strong zerg cheese and all-ins are.


Might i refer you to this post
On April 16 2012 06:04 _Galad_ wrote:
It's funny that in the 2 of the 3 games MKP was the one who bunker rushed and went for early aggresion and ppl blame Symbol that "all-ined" when he just did the right thing that was to kill MKP after he defended...


Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
April 15 2012 21:06 GMT
#719
On April 16 2012 06:03 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 06:02 tomatriedes wrote:
On April 16 2012 05:59 hysterial wrote:
On April 16 2012 05:56 ZenithM wrote:
I wish MKP would show more MVP-esque type of play sometimes, against arguably weaker players. Keep all the fanciness and unpredictability for GSL series :/


His whole game is not solid standard play, he couldn't be successful with MVP-like gameplay.


Exactly- MKP only knows two ways to play- cheesy or greedy. Symbol was smart enough to find ways to exploit that fact.

It's only his vZ though. His TvP and TvT are fairly standard.


I dunno- I've seen him go low ground CC first against toss without scouting, which is pretty damn greedy plus a few SCV conga lines. Maybe not as much recently.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 15 2012 21:06 GMT
#720
On April 16 2012 06:04 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2012 06:03 ZenithM wrote:
On April 16 2012 06:02 tomatriedes wrote:
On April 16 2012 05:59 hysterial wrote:
On April 16 2012 05:56 ZenithM wrote:
I wish MKP would show more MVP-esque type of play sometimes, against arguably weaker players. Keep all the fanciness and unpredictability for GSL series :/


His whole game is not solid standard play, he couldn't be successful with MVP-like gameplay.


Exactly- MKP only knows two ways to play- cheesy or greedy. Symbol was smart enough to find ways to exploit that fact.

It's only his vZ though. His TvP and TvT are fairly standard.


His TvT is not standard in the slightest. Just like in TvZ he does a lot of one-base aggression.

Which is actually quite frequent in Korean TvT. It's not just MKP.
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