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Richard4021
Profile Joined October 2011
United States73 Posts
April 13 2012 01:45 GMT
#121
The VOTE until May 5 are too long. There'll be too much time for cheater to get around the system.
JDM.s2000
Profile Joined September 2010
United States122 Posts
April 13 2012 01:47 GMT
#122
o_o who is UNCjer and how does a mid masters player have more votes then GM players like yata,caliberlight,cuhz,hellokitty,etc. at least the other races votes are somewhat legit in skill to a certain extent. protoss votes are.... lol

Richard4021
Profile Joined October 2011
United States73 Posts
April 13 2012 01:49 GMT
#123
We should dq the votes, and not dq the player unless the player involved.
UNC.jer
Profile Joined January 2011
United States43 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 02:09:26
April 13 2012 02:07 GMT
#124
Hey guys, I am UNCjer (I name changed somewhere in season 4 or so).

To verify, I'm a high level master player hoping to get in GM pretty soon but school has been holding me back recently mainly because my major is ridiculously hard for me. (Insert math class QQ here)

I feel like this tournament would be a great way to get my name out there in the Starcraft 2 community as I plan on trying to play professionally on a team after I graduate from college.

And as for my votes increasing, I have a lot of friends (and family) that want to see me make it into this event because they feel like I really have what it takes to play with some of these high level players. I've done nothing to cheat the voting system or anything stupid like that, just asked that my friends all over the country to vote for me so I can have this opportunity to play live instead of sitting around waiting for MLG to come to the eastern US during the summer again.

EDIT: Also, GO TARHEELS SC2! WOOO! Who needs national basketball championships when you can play in national CSL tournaments! We're coming for you guys next year in CSL, watch yo backs.
~~ UNCjer
RunnerJimbob
Profile Joined April 2012
5 Posts
April 13 2012 02:07 GMT
#125
UNCJer is certainly not cheating. He and his buddies (self included) have been going around campus/facebook and getting whoever we know to vote. UNCJer is actually borderline GM at times, though his current season record does not show it. He was a star in the CSL, being UNC's carrying player a lot of the time. There is no foul play for Jerred.
hellokittySC2
Profile Joined September 2009
United States395 Posts
April 13 2012 02:12 GMT
#126
the fact that Non-registered users are allowed to vote is wrong. and they should only be TL users for more than a week to be able to vote. it's retarded how a popularity Contest that's Not amongst the community is playing such a huge role in a 5000 dollar tournament.
twitter.com/hellokittyhots facebook.com/hellokittysc2 hellokitty.278, http://twitch.tv/noobeater5 为中国人在星际上争气!
AsherSC
Profile Joined November 2011
United States30 Posts
April 13 2012 02:14 GMT
#127
Another voter for UNCJer here!
I've never heard of those other, but it sounds like you aren't hyping your favorite enough.
Jerred is an informative streamer and solid player. You should vote for him
glhf
RunnerJimbob
Profile Joined April 2012
5 Posts
April 13 2012 02:17 GMT
#128
I don't really see how it's that bad. The same thing happens in other all star games in other sports (as has already been mentioned).

This is getting a lot of people who don't follow the e-sports scene really hyped that a fellow student could play in the all star game. People who had no idea the CSL or high-level SC2 even existed are getting pumped. I think that's amazing for the game.
UNC.jer
Profile Joined January 2011
United States43 Posts
April 13 2012 02:18 GMT
#129
Noobeater, doesn't that make it more of a popularity contest? A player like myself who is supported by non-necessarily Starcraft playing students at UNC (maybe just fans of our team) would just straight up lose to any professional player on the list. I think allowing only team liquid members to vote makes it more of a popularity contest and the professional players who are already recognized by the community would automatically win.

Not many people know me in the Starcraft 2 community right now. That doesn't mean that I'm terrible at the game or I'm not deserving of playing in this tournament.... In fact, isn't that what this tournament (and the CSL in general) is all about? Up and coming players in universities who don't yet have the opportunity to have a following in the SC2 community or have the chance to join a professional team?
~~ UNCjer
JDM.s2000
Profile Joined September 2010
United States122 Posts
April 13 2012 02:23 GMT
#130
On April 13 2012 11:07 RunnerJimbob wrote:
UNCJer is certainly not cheating. He and his buddies (self included) have been going around campus/facebook and getting whoever we know to vote. UNCJer is actually borderline GM at times, though his current season record does not show it. He was a star in the CSL, being UNC's carrying player a lot of the time. There is no foul play for Jerred.



To be borderline GM you'd have to be #1 ranked masters + top 50 rank masters in the whole NA + getting -12 +12 pts in match history vs GM players; UNCjer does not have those stats no offense.


I think the players who have no TLPD record / ELO rank in TL should have less of a chance of winning then players who win/get far in huge tourneys. The only players I see on the protoss voting list that are TLPD wins are Yata, Caliber, CUHZ, and eXo,
JZappa
Profile Joined June 2011
10 Posts
April 13 2012 02:24 GMT
#131
Also, I could be wrong but aren't there a fair number of lurkers on the site that visit TL regularly but don't post and thus don't have an account? Not letting people vote because they aren't TL members is elitist and anti-community. I agree with Jerred, the point of the event is to bring people into the community and showcase lesser known players then only letting the TL regulars vote completely defeats the purpose of the event.
UNC.jer
Profile Joined January 2011
United States43 Posts
April 13 2012 02:25 GMT
#132
Actually, I was a 1300 point master league player last season about 2 weeks before the season ended. I think you can see that on SC2ranks.com :D

And I'll be top in my master league division this season as soon as I finish this 10 page paper that's due tomorrow. T.T lol.
~~ UNCjer
RunnerJimbob
Profile Joined April 2012
5 Posts
April 13 2012 02:26 GMT
#133
On April 13 2012 11:23 JDM.s2000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 11:07 RunnerJimbob wrote:
UNCJer is certainly not cheating. He and his buddies (self included) have been going around campus/facebook and getting whoever we know to vote. UNCJer is actually borderline GM at times, though his current season record does not show it. He was a star in the CSL, being UNC's carrying player a lot of the time. There is no foul play for Jerred.



To be borderline GM you'd have to be #1 ranked masters + top 50 rank masters in the whole NA + getting -12 +12 pts in match history vs GM players; UNCjer does not have those stats no offense.


I think the players who have no TLPD record / ELO rank in TL should have less of a chance of winning then players who win/get far in huge tourneys. The only players I see on the protoss voting list that are TLPD wins are Yata, Caliber, CUHZ, and eXo,


I did say at times. This season, he doesn't have that, I gotcha. He has beaten GMs in the past, such as Inca, Incontrol, White-Ra, Pandan, Painuser, Future, HongunPrime, etc. I saw him get matched against IdrA just the other day (don't know how that turned out).
UNC.jer
Profile Joined January 2011
United States43 Posts
April 13 2012 02:28 GMT
#134
^ I lost to Idra pretty badly, not my best showing. lol xD

But yea, I think I'm quite capable of making GM or beating more high level pros if I had more time to practice (such as during the summer when this tournament occurs). :D
~~ UNCjer
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
April 13 2012 02:31 GMT
#135
On April 13 2012 11:24 JZappa wrote:
Also, I could be wrong but aren't there a fair number of lurkers on the site that visit TL regularly but don't post and thus don't have an account? Not letting people vote because they aren't TL members is elitist and anti-community. I agree with Jerred, the point of the event is to bring people into the community and showcase lesser known players then only letting the TL regulars vote completely defeats the purpose of the event.


<-- Not a lurker and also guilty of voting for Jerred :D
Brunas
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 02:43:37
April 13 2012 02:31 GMT
#136
On April 13 2012 11:07 TheGODehT wrote:
Hey guys, I am UNCjer (I name changed somewhere in season 4 or so).

To verify, I'm a high level master player hoping to get in GM pretty soon but school has been holding me back recently mainly because my major is ridiculously hard for me. (Insert math class QQ here)

I feel like this tournament would be a great way to get my name out there in the Starcraft 2 community as I plan on trying to play professionally on a team after I graduate from college.

And as for my votes increasing, I have a lot of friends (and family) that want to see me make it into this event because they feel like I really have what it takes to play with some of these high level players. I've done nothing to cheat the voting system or anything stupid like that, just asked that my friends all over the country to vote for me so I can have this opportunity to play live instead of sitting around waiting for MLG to come to the eastern US during the summer again.

EDIT: Also, GO TARHEELS SC2! WOOO! Who needs national basketball championships when you can play in national CSL tournaments! We're coming for you guys next year in CSL, watch yo backs.



unc csl manager here, confirming: uncjer(jerred "macdaddy" miklowcic) in charge of carrying the team.

Seriously though, he has a lot of fans here, from friends and people watching our games streamed. It isn't undeserved, he has (I think) the longest win streak in CSL history this season. I'm not sure it's fair to complain that he is doing very well in the poll, as we've been putting so much time into building the community here that number looks reasonable to me. If the tournament were going to use ladder rank to pick players, they wouldn't bother polling at all.

Obviously if someone is tampering the votes, it should be fixed but the number I see (~330) looks reasonable. If he's made a vote bot, it's of really poor quality. I've seen/helped him with CS homework in the past, and it isn't THAT awful. Just close.
JDM.s2000
Profile Joined September 2010
United States122 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 02:36:27
April 13 2012 02:33 GMT
#137
On April 13 2012 11:26 RunnerJimbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 11:23 JDM.s2000 wrote:
On April 13 2012 11:07 RunnerJimbob wrote:
UNCJer is certainly not cheating. He and his buddies (self included) have been going around campus/facebook and getting whoever we know to vote. UNCJer is actually borderline GM at times, though his current season record does not show it. He was a star in the CSL, being UNC's carrying player a lot of the time. There is no foul play for Jerred.



To be borderline GM you'd have to be #1 ranked masters + top 50 rank masters in the whole NA + getting -12 +12 pts in match history vs GM players; UNCjer does not have those stats no offense.


I think the players who have no TLPD record / ELO rank in TL should have less of a chance of winning then players who win/get far in huge tourneys. The only players I see on the protoss voting list that are TLPD wins are Yata, Caliber, CUHZ, and eXo,


I did say at times. This season, he doesn't have that, I gotcha. He has beaten GMs in the past, such as Inca, Incontrol, White-Ra, Pandan, Painuser, Future, HongunPrime, etc. I saw him get matched against IdrA just the other day (don't know how that turned out).



Anyone can get matched vs idra if searching at the right time; it all depends how many pts you Lose when you lose; or how many pts idra Wins when he beats u that determines how close of an MMR u have with him.


and UNCjer was 1190 pts last season with about 250/250 games win/lose 50% win ratio. not 1300. nd Borderline GM level is 1350-1400 pts last season (not including mass games)
hellokittySC2
Profile Joined September 2009
United States395 Posts
April 13 2012 02:37 GMT
#138
I personally believe the best games will be castes by the most brilliant players, and still stand with the fact that we should have a tournament for the spots rather than a silly community voting system. Regarding to tl posters being able to vote, it's for the benefitof the community, forcing people to make accounts in order to participate, what's wrong with that? Dont micromanage my post and look at the bigger picture. Getting people to JOIN and possibly PARTICIPATE is the ultimate goal.
twitter.com/hellokittyhots facebook.com/hellokittysc2 hellokitty.278, http://twitch.tv/noobeater5 为中国人在星际上争气!
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
April 13 2012 02:37 GMT
#139
On April 13 2012 11:33 JDM.s2000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 11:26 RunnerJimbob wrote:
On April 13 2012 11:23 JDM.s2000 wrote:
On April 13 2012 11:07 RunnerJimbob wrote:
UNCJer is certainly not cheating. He and his buddies (self included) have been going around campus/facebook and getting whoever we know to vote. UNCJer is actually borderline GM at times, though his current season record does not show it. He was a star in the CSL, being UNC's carrying player a lot of the time. There is no foul play for Jerred.



To be borderline GM you'd have to be #1 ranked masters + top 50 rank masters in the whole NA + getting -12 +12 pts in match history vs GM players; UNCjer does not have those stats no offense.


I think the players who have no TLPD record / ELO rank in TL should have less of a chance of winning then players who win/get far in huge tourneys. The only players I see on the protoss voting list that are TLPD wins are Yata, Caliber, CUHZ, and eXo,


I did say at times. This season, he doesn't have that, I gotcha. He has beaten GMs in the past, such as Inca, Incontrol, White-Ra, Pandan, Painuser, Future, HongunPrime, etc. I saw him get matched against IdrA just the other day (don't know how that turned out).



Anyone can get matched vs idra if searching at the right time; it all depends how many pts you Lose when you lose; or how many pts idra Wins when he beats u that determines how close of an MMR u have with him.


and UNCjer was 1190 pts last season with about 250/250 games win/lose 50% win ratio. not 1300. nd Borderline GM level is 1350-1400 pts last season (not including mass games)


His rating occasionally swings due to things outside his control which we won't go into here, but he was 1300 at one point in the season.
AsherSC
Profile Joined November 2011
United States30 Posts
April 13 2012 02:39 GMT
#140
On April 13 2012 11:23 JDM.s2000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 11:07 RunnerJimbob wrote:
UNCJer is certainly not cheating. He and his buddies (self included) have been going around campus/facebook and getting whoever we know to vote. UNCJer is actually borderline GM at times, though his current season record does not show it. He was a star in the CSL, being UNC's carrying player a lot of the time. There is no foul play for Jerred.



To be borderline GM you'd have to be #1 ranked masters + top 50 rank masters in the whole NA + getting -12 +12 pts in match history vs GM players; UNCjer does not have those stats no offense.


I think the players who have no TLPD record / ELO rank in TL should have less of a chance of winning then players who win/get far in huge tourneys. The only players I see on the protoss voting list that are TLPD wins are Yata, Caliber, CUHZ, and eXo,


Jerred went 17-3 this CSL season. Yata went 11-3. CUHZ went 13-4. eXo went 12-2. Caliber went 6-3.
Should we really discount someone because they don't have a couple of losses in a Go4SC2 cup listed?
glhf
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