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On April 09 2012 15:34 MuseMike wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 15:34 jmbthirteen wrote:On April 09 2012 15:33 MuseMike wrote:On April 09 2012 15:31 tdt wrote: 3 gate robo expo. Come on squitle stop tying to gimmick wins. You mean like alive is doing. game 1 wasnt a gimmick at all. and cloaked banshee's aren't nearly as gimmicky as DTs Ahhh so proxy rax bunker rush isn't a gimmick now, got it.
No its not..... 2 rax is not a gimmick at all. Its not all in at all you just react to what you scout. People in this thread are making my head hurt.....
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On April 09 2012 15:37 Lunareste wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 15:31 Lunareste wrote:On April 09 2012 15:29 Lorch wrote: I guess alive shows us how awesome terran is and cheese his way to the win, given this crowd we might get some boos depending on how he wins game 3. lol wait, cloak banshees are more cheesy than hallucination dt warp in from hidden low ground pylon? am I understanding you correctly? i still want an answer to this from you.
Passion clouds reason. Probably best to let it go
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On April 09 2012 15:35 SolidMoose wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 15:34 vndods wrote:On April 09 2012 15:33 Jakkerr wrote:On April 09 2012 15:31 Adreme wrote:On April 09 2012 15:31 honed wrote: i think this solves it. dts are worse than banshees :D I would still rather have a DT than a cloaked banshee. get out. I would rather have DT too. You're not alone! Anyone should rather have DTs. It's perma cloak
Rubbish. Being able to fly means you can harass and keep your unit alive. Once DTs are scanned they're dead. The only time Dts can ever be effective vs terran is if they just used up all their OC energy.
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On April 09 2012 15:37 Adreme wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 15:34 blade55555 wrote:On April 09 2012 15:33 Jakkerr wrote:On April 09 2012 15:31 Adreme wrote:On April 09 2012 15:31 honed wrote: i think this solves it. dts are worse than banshees :D I would still rather have a DT than a cloaked banshee. get out. As a zerg I would definitely rather have a cloaked banshee, if you prepare for dt's there is no way dt's are going to do damage unless you have no units, with cloak banshee they can fly and are a lot more annoying imo :D Against zerg, in the mid game i can make a dark shrine instantly warp in 6-7 DTs once its done and do great dmg especially if 4th isnt protected but even if it is spores die quick to DTs and there higher dmg. Cloaked units only work for a short window so the more dmg they do during that window the better the unit is and of course being able to warp DTs out of a gateway is a nice perk.
That is why I am almost always protected unless I am being lazy that game . Had a ton of experience raging vs that back when roach/hydra was the norm xD.
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Jesus please tell me he's not going NEXUS FIRST AGAIN!?!? Why oh why does he either so super duper greedy or super high risk cheese style when he has done so good in the late game??
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On April 09 2012 15:37 skeldark wrote: Dont fuck up again Alive. Gamble good . Go 3 times allin and take your money.
game 2 wasn't an all in, it was a BO loss.
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On April 09 2012 15:37 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 15:34 MuseMike wrote:On April 09 2012 15:34 jmbthirteen wrote:On April 09 2012 15:33 MuseMike wrote:On April 09 2012 15:31 tdt wrote: 3 gate robo expo. Come on squitle stop tying to gimmick wins. You mean like alive is doing. game 1 wasnt a gimmick at all. and cloaked banshee's aren't nearly as gimmicky as DTs Ahhh so proxy rax bunker rush isn't a gimmick now, got it. it was a pretty standard 2 rax. the bunker rush was when he saw it was nexus first. it was smart
This, 1000x this, Squirtle practices Nexus first against bunker rush because it's so standard, his second rax was reactive and started AFTER HIS FIRST RAX WAS COMPLETE, previously he pressured off of a 12/14 rax.
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On April 09 2012 15:34 MuseMike wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 15:34 jmbthirteen wrote:On April 09 2012 15:33 MuseMike wrote:On April 09 2012 15:31 tdt wrote: 3 gate robo expo. Come on squitle stop tying to gimmick wins. You mean like alive is doing. game 1 wasnt a gimmick at all. and cloaked banshee's aren't nearly as gimmicky as DTs Ahhh so proxy rax bunker rush isn't a gimmick now, got it.
its pretty standard actually
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Squirtle you can do it! Don´t give up!
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On April 09 2012 15:37 Badfatpanda wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 15:36 mrtomjones wrote:On April 09 2012 15:35 dangerjoe wrote: I wish protoss had the same kind of backup detection as T.. Don't have a robo? GG Should be able to make Obs from Nexus after any tier 2 imo... Holy fuck they're 25/75 and you want more? Jesus lol, PartinG was rocking 9 in his series against PuMa yesterday, I really think Protoss don't realize how amazing they are. You do not understand the complaints. If you don't go robo you risk losing to any DT/Banshee play and are therefor pidgeon holed into certain openings. Terran can just scan and open whatever they please, with regards to DT openings.
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I think I'd be fine with dt's detecting stealth units, not sure how that would work though, and it's late so don't come throwing stones at my tired brain.
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On April 09 2012 15:37 Wumbo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 15:36 Ovreel wrote:On April 09 2012 15:34 Wumbo wrote:On April 09 2012 15:32 Ryder. wrote:On April 09 2012 15:31 Wumbo wrote: haha Squirtle with the cheese,can't take alive in the macro game
The irony, so thick I can almost cut it with a knife Squirtle has yet to beat aLive in a macro game where alive didnt forget to send scvs to his third or get unlucky with a bunker salvage.All of his wins have been an abusive 2 base timing ^^ Game 4 of the first set? You know, the one where Squirtle had 4 bases? forget to send scvs to his third
Squirtle took out Alive's third.. and in any case, how does that make it a non-macro game?
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On April 09 2012 15:37 Badfatpanda wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 15:36 mrtomjones wrote:On April 09 2012 15:35 dangerjoe wrote: I wish protoss had the same kind of backup detection as T.. Don't have a robo? GG Should be able to make Obs from Nexus after any tier 2 imo... Holy fuck they're 25/75 and you want more? Jesus lol, PartinG was rocking 9 in his series against PuMa yesterday, I really think Protoss don't realize how amazing they are. I want to not be forced into making a robo if I don't want to die by cloaked units. Other tech paths against cloaked banshee are auto lose
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So can alive do anything that's not a massive cheese? Seriously, only Terrans can base their entire game on cheesing and get away with it. Scans, floating buildings, an insane amount of all ins, Browder must really love them.
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On April 09 2012 15:37 Lunareste wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 15:31 Lunareste wrote:On April 09 2012 15:29 Lorch wrote: I guess alive shows us how awesome terran is and cheese his way to the win, given this crowd we might get some boos depending on how he wins game 3. lol wait, cloak banshees are more cheesy than hallucination dt warp in from hidden low ground pylon? am I understanding you correctly? i still want an answer to this from you.
Anything terran does is cheese, and anything protoss does is "pressure", standard Team Liquid thread.
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On April 09 2012 15:39 FliedLice wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 15:34 MuseMike wrote:On April 09 2012 15:34 jmbthirteen wrote:On April 09 2012 15:33 MuseMike wrote:On April 09 2012 15:31 tdt wrote: 3 gate robo expo. Come on squitle stop tying to gimmick wins. You mean like alive is doing. game 1 wasnt a gimmick at all. and cloaked banshee's aren't nearly as gimmicky as DTs Ahhh so proxy rax bunker rush isn't a gimmick now, got it. its pretty standard actually It being used alot does not change the fact that it is gimmicky.
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On April 09 2012 15:38 tomatriedes wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 15:35 SolidMoose wrote:On April 09 2012 15:34 vndods wrote:On April 09 2012 15:33 Jakkerr wrote:On April 09 2012 15:31 Adreme wrote:On April 09 2012 15:31 honed wrote: i think this solves it. dts are worse than banshees :D I would still rather have a DT than a cloaked banshee. get out. I would rather have DT too. You're not alone! Anyone should rather have DTs. It's perma cloak Rubbish. Being able to fly means you can harass and keep your unit alive. Once DTs are scanned they're dead. The only time Dts can ever be effective vs terran is if they just used up all their OC energy. Or protoss can be smart and split up their DTs you know?
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