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This is not the place to talk about LoL viewership.

This is also not a place to caster bash/balance whine/flame, etc.

Please don't argue about how many views LoL has, or which game is better, or we will be upset.
(added page 174)

Also, lay off Scarlett please. (added page 227)
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
April 06 2012 21:13 GMT
#4261
On April 07 2012 06:13 AsnSensation wrote:
Im confused about the frontpage, did a girl rly beat a prime player


Yes, yes she did
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
April 06 2012 21:13 GMT
#4262
On April 07 2012 06:11 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 06:10 Whitewing wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:08 TheBanana wrote:
On April 07 2012 05:59 Megabuster123 wrote:
On April 07 2012 05:55 Zealot Orgy wrote:
On April 07 2012 05:54 Whitewing wrote:
On April 07 2012 05:54 HowardRoark wrote:
Stephano, the best foreigner in the world vs the best player in the world. This is JUST AMAZING!


We can call MKP the best player in the world when he wins a GSL.


You sir, have retarded standards.

Na, when he wins the GSL then he can be called the best.

Till then we'll see how he does.


So if someone hypothetically outperforms GSL-winners in more tournaments than vice versa(tournaments that mostly consists of the same players at the top), they can't be called the best because the name of the tournament is wrong?


The format matters.

In GSL, you know your opponent in advance and can practice for him, plan for him, and your condition is great and you can show your best.

In other tournaments, other factors than pure skill come into play. That's fine, there's nothing wrong with that, it's part of being a good player to do well in them.

I just, personally, think that he should be able to win in a tournament of GSL format before we should announce him as the best like it's a fact.



Winning with a strategy vs a specific player is actually easier than facing him randomly in fast format tournament and relying on pure skill vs pure skill.


Not really, that player is doing the same thing vs. you. Either way it's irrelevant, the format is different and allows for different types of strategies and skills, and I feel that the best player in the world, if we want to declare someone as that, should be someone who wins in both formats.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
April 06 2012 21:13 GMT
#4263
On April 07 2012 06:13 AsnSensation wrote:
Im confused about the frontpage, did a girl rly beat a prime player

yes
I have no quote!
Sargonian
Profile Joined February 2012
United States164 Posts
April 06 2012 21:13 GMT
#4264
I'm not even a mod but can you people PLEASE stop asking "Hey wtf MVP lost to Rumkake?" Fricking read people it's stated on every other page that he didn't show u guys r spamming at this point
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
April 06 2012 21:13 GMT
#4265
White-ra's actually trying to do some kind of FFE against a Terran
¯\_(シ)_/¯
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 06 2012 21:13 GMT
#4266
woop mech tvp
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
iamcup
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland58 Posts
April 06 2012 21:13 GMT
#4267
On April 07 2012 06:04 darkscream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 06:02 iamcup wrote:
Oh man... i love white-ra but how can a pro like him make such a huge and a simple error like killing his army for nothing when he had the time and a change to pull out of the fight. It just seemed he was so intent on aggressive play he went way overboard...


Not only that, both games he move-commanded his sentries into spine crawlers, losing them all

I'd hate to say nerves, but what else could it be?


I have to agree with you, though with white-ra's tournament experience I would think he's immune to suchs ;-).
darkevilxe
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada346 Posts
April 06 2012 21:13 GMT
#4268
wait mvp lost? can somebody fill me in on this
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
April 06 2012 21:14 GMT
#4269
I'm dissappointed in no cannon rush.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
April 06 2012 21:14 GMT
#4270
omg mech
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
April 06 2012 21:14 GMT
#4271
On April 07 2012 06:13 darkevilxe wrote:
wait mvp lost? can somebody fill me in on this

He couldn't make it to the tournament.
kiss kiss fall in love
darkevilxe
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada346 Posts
April 06 2012 21:14 GMT
#4272
was he not able to get to the tourney? how did he lose to rumcake
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
April 06 2012 21:14 GMT
#4273
On April 07 2012 06:13 darkevilxe wrote:
wait mvp lost? can somebody fill me in on this

Keep up. He never came.
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
Demonaz
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1219 Posts
April 06 2012 21:14 GMT
#4274
Mech tvp, Artosis is at this moment somewhere shouting at the screen "YES YES YES"
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
April 06 2012 21:14 GMT
#4275
On April 07 2012 06:12 bouhko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2012 06:10 Whitewing wrote:
On April 07 2012 06:08 TheBanana wrote:
On April 07 2012 05:59 Megabuster123 wrote:
On April 07 2012 05:55 Zealot Orgy wrote:
On April 07 2012 05:54 Whitewing wrote:
On April 07 2012 05:54 HowardRoark wrote:
Stephano, the best foreigner in the world vs the best player in the world. This is JUST AMAZING!


We can call MKP the best player in the world when he wins a GSL.


You sir, have retarded standards.

Na, when he wins the GSL then he can be called the best.

Till then we'll see how he does.


So if someone hypothetically outperforms GSL-winners in more tournaments than vice versa(tournaments that mostly consists of the same players at the top), they can't be called the best because the name of the tournament is wrong?


The format matters.

In GSL, you know your opponent in advance and can practice for him, plan for him, and your condition is great and you can show your best.

In other tournaments, other factors than pure skill come into play. That's fine, there's nothing wrong with that, it's part of being a good player to do well in them.

I just, personally, think that he should be able to win in a tournament of GSL format before we should announce him as the best like it's a fact.

The thing is we might need a "best weekend tournament player" and "best GSL player" categories because it's really, really different metagame.

Also I don't know if having one week to train for a specific opponent amounts to "true skill". I would just say it's a different setting.


Or maybe we should just quit engaging in arguments that impossible to win? Right now it looks like there are top-tier players who peak at different times, and are affected by things like patches metagame etc. Why do we have this visceral need to declare someone as "the best"?
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
CTangent
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States125 Posts
April 06 2012 21:14 GMT
#4276
Oh shit... is MKP about to mech? SHOW US HOW IT IS DONE, MY KING
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
April 06 2012 21:14 GMT
#4277
This game makes no sense to me. They are literally breaking the metagame right now
www.superbeerbrothers.com
keeperton
Profile Joined December 2010
United States233 Posts
April 06 2012 21:14 GMT
#4278
Am I the only one that's been experiencing the stream etching at odd intervals the whole time it's been up?
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
April 06 2012 21:14 GMT
#4279
On April 07 2012 06:13 darkevilxe wrote:
wait mvp lost? can somebody fill me in on this


For the 10000 time, MVP didn't show up.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
April 06 2012 21:14 GMT
#4280
MEEECCHHHH!!! YEAH!
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
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