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Everyone knows the drill by now.

Keep it manner and have a good time.

We'll be watching along with you.
dabom88
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3483 Posts
April 08 2012 03:56 GMT
#8341
On April 08 2012 12:54 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
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On April 08 2012 12:52 dabom88 wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:50 Alvis wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:49 dabom88 wrote:
MKP Cheesing. lol.

how comes fast cc = cheesing?

Cheese = doing something that only works if your opponent does not see it.

So if I scout a 6 pool and I die to the 6 pool, the 6 pool ceases to be cheese? Doesn't make sense. Cheese is simply doing a build that is considerably risky.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Cheese

Definition

Cheese is a pejorative expression which refers to a strategy that is highly unconventional and designed to take one's opponent by surprise. In general, cheese is hard to beat if not scouted but easy to defeat if it is scouted.


Hidden expansion is still cheese.
You should not have to pay to watch the GSL, Proleague, or OSL at a reasonable time. That is not "fine" and it's BS to say otherwise. My sig since 2011. http://www.youtube.com/user/dabom88
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 08 2012 03:56 GMT
#8342
tankless TvZ just amazes me. I could never pull this off
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
rotegirte
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany2859 Posts
April 08 2012 03:56 GMT
#8343
On April 08 2012 12:54 dAPhREAk wrote:
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On April 08 2012 12:53 Vorenius wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:48 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:47 Kettchup wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:44 Superlative wrote:
Continue to talk about "LAN" will fix this. When the drop was caused by a hardware error


Option to load a replay would solve that. There's really no excuse for something like this if professional SC2 wants to be taken seriously.

tell people to stop pirating and maybe companies will stop doing stupid shit like taking LAN away.

It's the other way around. Companies need to get their shit together so people will stop pirating.

If the option is between paying nothing and getting SC2 with LAN or paying 60$ and getting SC2 without LAN, the choice is simple.

It took the movie industry years to realize this and the music industry even longer. I'd have hoped game publishers were slightly more in touch with modern technology.

the software companies dont agree with you. you pirate, they are going to do stupid shit like this.


Well, at least one successful company doesn't disagree
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
April 08 2012 03:56 GMT
#8344
Honestly Prime is better team. Star is tilting hard in face of a 1 game setback and desreve to lose. I hate the regame but pros should deal with it and bomber should have won and squirtle too but they tilted.
MC for president
acrimoneyius
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States983 Posts
April 08 2012 03:56 GMT
#8345
On April 08 2012 12:55 Bromazepam wrote:
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On April 08 2012 12:54 acrimoneyius wrote:
Sigh....GOM player giving me errors again


http://www.twitch.tv/ignproleague


THANK YOU!
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
April 08 2012 03:56 GMT
#8346
Curious fungals, prevent MKP micro, use banelings, kill units. GOGO curious I want to see more games here.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
darkest44
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1009 Posts
April 08 2012 03:56 GMT
#8347
If the game had DCed when MKP was up 40 supply earlier in the game would the same ppl have raged if they didn't give MKP the win? We've all seen players come back from games that people in these threads call "over" "unwinable" "gg". It should have been a best of 3 with Parting up 1 game perhaps but just giving PArting the win would still have people whining.
Either way, Blizzard should just match the prize pool for Startale if they lose.
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
April 08 2012 03:56 GMT
#8348
eugh first engagement 1-1 vs 1-1 but marineking up in upgrades now
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Schizoe
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany4 Posts
April 08 2012 03:56 GMT
#8349
On April 08 2012 12:52 ShAdZ_ZX wrote:
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On April 08 2012 12:46 Fischbacher wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:45 mythandier wrote:
Why so much hate on MKP?

It wasn't his decision

I don't have MarineKing. That doesn't mean I can't be mad about him winning a game that he shouldn't be playing at all. If StarTale loses, its going to be because of that disconnect, period. I honestly don't understand how anyone can be rooting for MKP to win matches in this finals.


Bullshit. How does one match conclusively decide a Bo9? It assisted Prime, but it in no way decided the series. You have no way of knowing how each match would have played out if Parting won.

Take your idiotic logic else where.



ofc mkp would be out and st would have still left bomber curious and squirtle against the other prime players and this would be np
Desiato
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada185 Posts
April 08 2012 03:56 GMT
#8350
On April 08 2012 12:55 EnSky wrote:
When all this is over I hope GOM posts the reason for the regame decision.

It's obvious, the ref thought that however how small Marineking still had a small chance to win the game.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
April 08 2012 03:56 GMT
#8351
On April 08 2012 12:56 dabom88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:54 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:52 dabom88 wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:50 Alvis wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:49 dabom88 wrote:
MKP Cheesing. lol.

how comes fast cc = cheesing?

Cheese = doing something that only works if your opponent does not see it.

So if I scout a 6 pool and I die to the 6 pool, the 6 pool ceases to be cheese? Doesn't make sense. Cheese is simply doing a build that is considerably risky.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Cheese

Show nested quote +
Definition

Cheese is a pejorative expression which refers to a strategy that is highly unconventional and designed to take one's opponent by surprise. In general, cheese is hard to beat if not scouted but easy to defeat if it is scouted.


Hidden expansion is still cheese.


Do not do this.
secret - never again
scares
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany239 Posts
April 08 2012 03:56 GMT
#8352
On April 08 2012 12:51 s3rp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 12:45 RoyAlex wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:36 yoshi245 wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:34 EnSky wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:29 SeeKeR wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:25 DizzySheep wrote:
On April 08 2012 12:24 SeeKeR wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if during the Ro32 Code S match, MKP comes out with gray hair...

imagine the stress on him right now....


He shouldn't be..the regame wasn't decided by him.

Doesn't change the fact that he KNOWS ppl are going to blame him, his team, GOMtv, etc. etc. Ppl WILL bitch about this no matter what. MKP MUST be feeling horrible right now

Why blame the player and the team? >.<


They have to blame it on something, as asinine and illogical as it is. Why not blame the cable? Maybe someone tripped over it.


Actually Startale clearly had that game won and MKP or the Prime coach should have accepted to hand the game over to Startale Parting. How could they argue to have a regame? They surely must have looked at that game and thought that MKP only could have lost the game, it was that clear.
Proplayers always argue that other pro players and especially Koreans, are so good at using small advatages/mistakes in their favor, and Parting was ahead in a big way.

They lost that game and should have accepted to hand the game over to Startale Parting. Not keep quite and surely not argue against it.


Ever played any sports or anything competetive ? Apperantly not you catch a break you run with it especially when something important is on the line.

The Refs. made a mistake bad for Startale but Prime doesn't own Startale anything other then maybe some sort of token of goodwill to acknowledge that they got lucky. Maybe they could share the prizemoney since it doesn't matter that much but thats by farthest i would go.


It's odd that in sports they teach you: "Refs are just human. they make mistakes you have to live with it"
In e-sports:"the Ref made a mistake, hate the player for not changing the refs opinion"

How about we take it like in real sports, we hate the ref we say it would probably have ended differently, but still give all credit too the winning team. Prime may have gotten a massive advantage but its not like startale didn't stand a chance after the decision.

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Flanq
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom2694 Posts
April 08 2012 03:57 GMT
#8353
Urgh...
vndods
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3743 Posts
April 08 2012 03:57 GMT
#8354
MKP wins.
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
April 08 2012 03:57 GMT
#8355
MKP top 1 control
Bug Fixes Fixed an issue where, when facing a SlayerS terran, completing a hatchery would cause a medivac and 8 marines to randomly spawn nearby and attack it.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 08 2012 03:57 GMT
#8356
MKP flanking zerglings...
KubricksMcGuffin
Profile Joined April 2012
13 Posts
April 08 2012 03:57 GMT
#8357
MKP WINS.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
April 08 2012 03:57 GMT
#8358
On April 08 2012 12:56 darkest44 wrote:
If the game had DCed when MKP was up 40 supply earlier in the game would the same ppl have raged if they didn't give MKP the win? We've all seen players come back from games that people in these threads call "over" "unwinable" "gg". It should have been a best of 3 with Parting up 1 game perhaps but just giving PArting the win would still have people whining.
Either way, Blizzard should just match the prize pool for Startale if they lose.


OBVIOUSLY people would've raged.

Logic doesn't work on a toxic community like this one.
secret - never again
[EMP]ArtOfWar
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany69 Posts
April 08 2012 03:57 GMT
#8359
Hillarious.
mastergriggy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1312 Posts
April 08 2012 03:57 GMT
#8360
Leave TL for 20 mins to make food.

Come back and LR thread is 100 pages longer. Must have missed another disconnect or something.
Write your own song!
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