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GP
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1056 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 09:34:10
April 01 2012 09:31 GMT
#101
I'm super excited for this! This was one of my most anticipated things to come home to after work.
Mooneyes
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden72 Posts
April 01 2012 09:41 GMT
#102
On April 01 2012 05:20 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 05:19 nunez wrote:
awesome. my favourite smaller tournament is back!
if orb still is casting this i'm subscribing for sure.


Orb will be back for 100% sure.


I will definetly tune in then. I really like Orbs casting.
Blatantly stolen: The Zerg: Protoss is soooo imbalanced. The Protoss: Zerg is soooo imbalanced. The Terran: I would like to thank all my friends and family for another GSL win. -GSL 2011
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
April 01 2012 11:30 GMT
#103
Awesome, I'll be watching for sure. ESV fighting.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
April 01 2012 12:30 GMT
#104
Diamond delivering as expected, I love Korean Weekly for the high quality games and always showcasing new ESV maps

That said, I am sorry but as a an avid viewer of the Korean Weekly I have to criticize your map decision this time. I absolutely do not agree with this.

Especially Vicious is just terrible in terms of positional balance and altho I can see prodiG put some effort into the aesthetics, they still just give me eye cancer. Frigid Pass is a pretty meh turtly 4p mirrored, with a small middle, that imo will lead to really turtly average games similar to most other 4p mirrored maps.
Avalon and Serpent Sands are kinda similar, I think I prefer I prefer Serpent Sands but both thirds are quite far and those maps don't convince me either.

Now let's look at imo superior alternatives from ESV. First of all I think you only considered 4p maps cos you have so many 2p maps already, but I don't agree with introducing inferior maps just because they are 4p.

First of all ESV Discord is probably my favorite unused map at the moment. It was top5 in MotM January and is just an overall solid and interesting map, would love to see this.
Also a Grebliv map, ESV Sidewinder has been top5 in MotM February and again is probably my favorite 4p rotational at the moment, definitely should be considered instead of these four maps.

Some other maps I think are better than Vicious (and at least as good as the others) that I would definitely prefer to see are ESV Equinox , ESV Tanzanite or even ESV Blitzkrieg. ESV Pantheon or ESV Borealis might not be too bad either but not a big improvement over the maps you chose.

I already think Korhal Compound and Ohana are a bit meh so... with these map decisions you really lower my interest in the Korean Weekly by quite a bit.

I know it's not nice to come in a hype thread with such negativity and I could have told you this privately as well, but I think just as a viewer and fan of the Korean Weekly this is where my criticism belongs.
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
Lokgar
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States147 Posts
April 01 2012 13:18 GMT
#105
On April 01 2012 17:36 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 17:25 Serinox wrote:
On April 01 2012 16:52 Dukat wrote:
Now the real question is... How much of this is an April Fool's joke by Diamond?


He stated on twitter that he hates April Fool's day. So probably 0,1 %


I really do despise it, 99% of the jokes aren't funny and just waste my time.


HAHAHAHAHA!
Nice joke buddy!
ESV replay guy. I guess. Maybe.
beamingrobot
Profile Joined October 2010
United States685 Posts
April 01 2012 14:19 GMT
#106
I love these, it's one of those few tourneys that I tuned into without fail so I can't wait for S3 :D
moge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
April 01 2012 15:18 GMT
#107
Awesome! Subscribed!
Always loved this series. I am glad you guys are making the needed changes to make the show self-sustainable. Well done!
gentle lover of esports - Product Manager for http://iHearteSports.com
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-01 17:54:19
April 01 2012 17:54 GMT
#108
On April 01 2012 21:30 Ragoo wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Ragoo dropping knowledge bombs] +
Diamond delivering as expected, I love Korean Weekly for the high quality games and always showcasing new ESV maps

That said, I am sorry but as a an avid viewer of the Korean Weekly I have to criticize your map decision this time. I absolutely do not agree with this.

Especially Vicious is just terrible in terms of positional balance and altho I can see prodiG put some effort into the aesthetics, they still just give me eye cancer. Frigid Pass is a pretty meh turtly 4p mirrored, with a small middle, that imo will lead to really turtly average games similar to most other 4p mirrored maps.
Avalon and Serpent Sands are kinda similar, I think I prefer I prefer Serpent Sands but both thirds are quite far and those maps don't convince me either.

Now let's look at imo superior alternatives from ESV. First of all I think you only considered 4p maps cos you have so many 2p maps already, but I don't agree with introducing inferior maps just because they are 4p.

First of all ESV Discord is probably my favorite unused map at the moment. It was top5 in MotM January and is just an overall solid and interesting map, would love to see this.
Also a Grebliv map, ESV Sidewinder has been top5 in MotM February and again is probably my favorite 4p rotational at the moment, definitely should be considered instead of these four maps.

Some other maps I think are better than Vicious (and at least as good as the others) that I would definitely prefer to see are ESV Equinox , ESV Tanzanite or even ESV Blitzkrieg. ESV Pantheon or ESV Borealis might not be too bad either but not a big improvement over the maps you chose.

I already think Korhal Compound and Ohana are a bit meh so... with these map decisions you really lower my interest in the Korean Weekly by quite a bit.

I know it's not nice to come in a hype thread with such negativity and I could have told you this privately as well, but I think just as a viewer and fan of the Korean Weekly this is where my criticism belongs.


Please do understand that there is several issues here. The first and foremost is in the end this is a $200 weekly with a $3500 finals. While it's decently big, to have a map pool that contains 0 known maps would create sub par play due to very few players bothering to learn 5 new maps instead of 2-3.

Also the map pool can (and will) change at any time needed. This candidate pool is only guaranteed for Week 1.

Yes we only needed 4p maps for this because we have enough 2p maps, we will use new ones eventually, just not Week 1.

I hope maybe that helps clear things up.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
meltingmykohchoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
166 Posts
April 01 2012 19:17 GMT
#109
those maps look fuckin awesome
"HeRp DeRp"
Shaddar
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
675 Posts
April 01 2012 23:38 GMT
#110
Glad Orbs coming back, really enjoyed his casting in the previous Korean Weeklies.
Why is Check 6 afraid of Infinity Seven? Because Infinity Seven Team 8 Day [9]
Cylluus
Profile Joined November 2011
United States153 Posts
April 02 2012 00:23 GMT
#111
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww yeah totally subscribing
knatt
Profile Joined October 2008
Sweden21 Posts
April 02 2012 01:04 GMT
#112
Orb is nice, but I hate that he doesn't click on things when observing. Sometimes I want to know what upgrades they have but he never clicks a unit, he just moves the camera around
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
April 02 2012 03:31 GMT
#113
On April 02 2012 10:04 knatt wrote:
Orb is nice, but I hate that he doesn't click on things when observing. Sometimes I want to know what upgrades they have but he never clicks a unit, he just moves the camera around


Orb won't be obs'ing until he gets a new comp, with a payment model we can't have the non stop crashes.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
TheAngelofDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
April 02 2012 03:48 GMT
#114
Diamond is a baller. Nuff said.
"Infestors are the suck" - LzGamer
MIhata
Profile Joined April 2011
Bulgaria156 Posts
April 02 2012 08:55 GMT
#115
Usually i wake pretty early for my work (6am EET), so im really glad for the EU rebroadcast
I hope the rebroadcast start is somewhere in between 6pm-7pm CEST
"Very important caster" - MC about himself. | MC | Boxer | Grubby | Jangbi | MMA | Polt | InCa | Symbol |
blamekilly
Profile Joined April 2011
466 Posts
April 02 2012 14:28 GMT
#116
Is there a list of invited players or are they just going to grab random players a few days before it kicks off?
Jayzu
Profile Joined September 2011
Belgium4 Posts
April 02 2012 15:24 GMT
#117
bande de gros doseurs de merde!

User was warned for this post
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
April 02 2012 18:07 GMT
#118
On April 02 2012 17:55 MIhata wrote:
Usually i wake pretty early for my work (6am EET), so im really glad for the EU rebroadcast
I hope the rebroadcast start is somewhere in between 6pm-7pm CEST


Cool, keep the suggestions coming people, I REALLY need some input on the EU rebroadcasts as I am not that famlirlar with Europe myself.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
doss
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada137 Posts
April 02 2012 20:48 GMT
#119
Really like that orb is coming back, he's a great caster!
https://sites.google.com/site/starcraft2doss/home/home/
rrwrwx
Profile Joined March 2011
United States247 Posts
April 02 2012 21:09 GMT
#120
Is it possible to add a liquipedia link somewhere? Just for the sake of ease.
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