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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
March 28 2012 20:03 GMT
#81
That Terran greed.

3 CC, 1/1/1 production, double ebay.
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
March 28 2012 20:04 GMT
#82
On March 29 2012 05:03 Asha` wrote:
That Terran greed.

3 CC, 1/1/1 production, double ebay.

Typical MMA.
The_Darkness
Profile Joined December 2011
United States910 Posts
March 28 2012 20:05 GMT
#83
On March 29 2012 04:51 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2012 04:46 The_Darkness wrote:
On March 29 2012 04:33 Azarkon wrote:
On March 29 2012 04:30 Kznn wrote:
On March 29 2012 04:28 WigglingSquid wrote:
Stephano would likely find the matchup less broken if he consistently played against better/more aggro opponents (no offense meant to Mana).



jyp got smashed in the same way..
your point? maybe mc or genius..yes... but otherwise..
yep stephano is a god against protoss


Inori is a pretty middle of the road Protoss as far as Protosses go.

He beat Stephano by doing one simple thing - meta-gaming.

Foreigner Protosses just do not understand this concept. They don't know how to take risks. They go up against Stephano with safe play and get demolished because three hatch roach crushes safe play from Protoss. Granted, this was back around the time of ASUS ROG, so it's not really fair to Mana because back then Protosses were struggling.


You're simply wrong. Foreign protosses especially Grubby have tried virtually everything -- from early zealot pressure, to one base 4 gating, to warp prism play, to DT harass etc. Stephano's reactions and micro are amazing. If you try to get cute, you almost always lose. Stephano's lack of an early game scout cost him against Inori because he couldn't see how greedy Inori was being apparently.

Inori gambled that Stephano would do a specific build and he did. Stephano has punished people for making similar assumptions in the past (watch his second game against Grubby at LSC for a recent example). As the better player, Stephano should have scouted and it's his fault he didn't. He doesn't need the extra 100 minerals he saves by not scouting to beat an Inori.


Nah, I'm right, because Stephano is like 25-2 vs. foreign Protoss, but he's like 10-20 vs. Korean Protoss.

Foreign Protoss try to do cute things, but they don't understand how to have those cute things transform into wins. They make special taktik builds that help them macro into the late game and gain small edges, but Stephano doesn't lose to Protoss late game - not to foreign Protoss, anyhow.

The difference between them and Inori is that Inori looked at Stephano's timings and formulated a strategy for victory, not to merely survive with a small edge until the late game. He saw that Stephano didn't scout, and that not scouting means a two-base all-in kills him before he's prepared, and that this results in a win.



No you said Foreign protosses don't take risks. They do take risks and I pointed out a variety of builds that are as all in as it gets. So that point is wrong. You're now making a different point which is much more defensible from your original point and a point which i generally agree with. No more on this . . . .
To be is to be the value of a bound variable.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
March 28 2012 20:06 GMT
#84
On March 29 2012 05:04 WigglingSquid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2012 05:03 Asha` wrote:
That Terran greed.

3 CC, 1/1/1 production, double ebay.

Typical MMA.


Seems like standard GSL terran nowadays. MKP held an all in from July with pretty much the same build today (though I think he delayed his double ebay) extremely comfortably.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-28 20:21:38
March 28 2012 20:07 GMT
#85
Hey you wizards of Liquipedia, you got MaNa's score wrong (1-0). :p

Edit: Corrected ^^
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-28 20:09:10
March 28 2012 20:07 GMT
#86
Standard MMA. 1-0 in favor of the Terran gosu.

EDIT: Well looks like it anyway.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 28 2012 20:10 GMT
#87
Life is getting closer and closer to being poached from Zenex every time I see him xD
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
March 28 2012 20:10 GMT
#88
Ugh, Life had this but let his zerglings rally out past the units that killed the third.
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
March 28 2012 20:12 GMT
#89
On March 29 2012 05:10 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Life is getting closer and closer to being poached from Zenex every time I see him xD

Yes, he just needs gosu ZvP and he could become huge
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 28 2012 20:13 GMT
#90
On March 29 2012 05:02 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2012 04:58 Bagration wrote:
On March 29 2012 04:58 nokz88 wrote:
Enough of Stephano, let's marvel at the most onesided matchup ever in SC2, MMA vs Z


Life could win if he does a roach ling all in or baneling bust...maybe.

Dimaga beat MMA with a roachbane bust in IEM Kiev. The first time in like forever that somebody's managed to bust him in the early game.


That was Lucky. MMA thought Dima would go mutas, so he went for a pre-spire timing when Dima was going ling-infestor. His push was overrun and it spiralled out of control.

That game was so insane by MMA. Life did make it somewhat close, but he was on 2 base vs MMA's 4.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
March 28 2012 20:14 GMT
#91
this soundtrack is so amazing
Sea_aeS
Profile Joined November 2011
1025 Posts
March 28 2012 20:17 GMT
#92
Nice composition from MMA but well ... hes so much better than Nexlife ~~
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 28 2012 20:17 GMT
#93
Such a late pool against an 11/11 rax.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
March 28 2012 20:17 GMT
#94
Life going to get cheesed out =(
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
March 28 2012 20:18 GMT
#95
No more snow in Sweden and it's not even April yet? Apollo you silly brit. xD
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-28 20:20:06
March 28 2012 20:18 GMT
#96
On March 29 2012 05:05 The_Darkness wrote:
No you said Foreign protosses don't take risks. They do take risks and I pointed out a variety of builds that are as all in as it gets. So that point is wrong. You're now making a different point which is much more defensible from your original point and a point which i generally agree with. No more on this . . . .


I said they don't know how to take risks and meta-game >< But you're right, there's no use talking about this - I wasn't that careful in my first post; the second post is what I think.
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
March 28 2012 20:19 GMT
#97
wtf
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-28 20:22:29
March 28 2012 20:19 GMT
#98
Saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaave

whew Life cut that fine.

===

please get out a spare queen and transfuse that hatch back up a bit ><
sToFu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States189 Posts
March 28 2012 20:22 GMT
#99
Not gonna lie; despite my rudimentary French, I greatly prefer the French broadcast.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 28 2012 20:24 GMT
#100
Life was so far ahead, had MMA contained on 1 base, but doesn't expand? Why?
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
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