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VavPK
Profile Joined May 2011
United States196 Posts
March 09 2012 14:05 GMT
#1721
On March 09 2012 23:03 Kaitokid wrote:
I think its a bit disrespectful to say that MMA is by far the best player in the world when MVP, Nestea and DRG are not at the event... the other players there are just not on MMA's level, even the koreans but if players like MVP would be there MMA would definitely look weaker.



MMA is like 10-3 vs MVP.. And hes never lost to nestea and they've played 2, maybe 3 times.
Terminal
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom2109 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 14:05:48
March 09 2012 14:05 GMT
#1722
MMA is phenomenal, just on another skill level... can he go all the way without dropping a map? o.o
Ryukku
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore545 Posts
March 09 2012 14:05 GMT
#1723
On March 09 2012 23:04 VavPK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 23:03 Titorelli wrote:
Sorry best Terran in the world is aLive


You're a fool. MMA is by far the best terran in the world right now.


Even though he lost to alive 3-1 in the most recent GSL. It was pretty obvious MMA was off his game cause of his illness. Great to see him owning face in the pink of health
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
March 09 2012 14:05 GMT
#1724
On March 09 2012 23:03 Kaitokid wrote:
I think its a bit disrespectful to say that MMA is by far the best player in the world when MVP, Nestea and DRG are not at the event... the other players there are just not on MMA's level, even the koreans but if players like MVP would be there MMA would definitely look weaker.

I wouldn't even put Mvp and Nestea in the top 5 players right now so yeah. MMA has been more consistent, still made top 8 in GSL unlike Mvp and Nestea. DRG is the only player on the level of MMA right now. And DRG has the small edge due to being the current champion of GSL.

But MMA would beat DRG head to head more than likely.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
March 09 2012 14:05 GMT
#1725
On March 09 2012 23:04 VavPK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 23:03 Titorelli wrote:
Sorry best Terran in the world is aLive


You're a fool. MMA is by far the best terran in the world right now.

Lol calm down...
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
Blacktion
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1148 Posts
March 09 2012 14:05 GMT
#1726
On March 09 2012 23:03 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
I don't feel that forcing scans against banshees is no damage. Puma burned like 5-7 extra scans to kill those 3 banshees.

MMA lost around 800 resourses to Pumas 300, so if you factor in oppertunity cost i think it was roughly even, maybe slightly better for puma, but not a huge thing like the casters made it out.
Where's Boxer, there's victory! - figq
nOondn
Profile Joined March 2011
564 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 14:06:47
March 09 2012 14:06 GMT
#1727
sorry Dapollo, Puma will go banshee .
Mid Master Terran @ kr server fighting !!!
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
March 09 2012 14:06 GMT
#1728
Mvp, Nestea, MC, DRG, MMA...

oh god I hope I never have to choose between them

MMA and DRG are looking so amazing lately, but I have a soft spot in my heart for the old guard..
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 09 2012 14:07 GMT
#1729
On March 09 2012 23:05 VavPK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 23:03 Kaitokid wrote:
I think its a bit disrespectful to say that MMA is by far the best player in the world when MVP, Nestea and DRG are not at the event... the other players there are just not on MMA's level, even the koreans but if players like MVP would be there MMA would definitely look weaker.



MMA is like 10-3 vs MVP.. And hes never lost to nestea and they've played 2, maybe 3 times.

And MMA screwed over DRG @ Blizzcup and early GSTL seasons.
MMA is good. He just had some "minor results" in the GSL.
I had a good night of sleep.
Emptyness
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Bulgaria1016 Posts
March 09 2012 14:07 GMT
#1730
He is making everything faster than Puma - faster SCVs, faster 1st rax > faster 1st marine > faster OC - omg does this guy can be beaten?
Fall down 9 times, Get up 10.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
March 09 2012 14:07 GMT
#1731
On March 09 2012 23:05 VavPK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 23:03 Kaitokid wrote:
I think its a bit disrespectful to say that MMA is by far the best player in the world when MVP, Nestea and DRG are not at the event... the other players there are just not on MMA's level, even the koreans but if players like MVP would be there MMA would definitely look weaker.



MMA is like 10-3 vs MVP.. And hes never lost to nestea and they've played 2, maybe 3 times.

You should really do your homework before saying something that can easily be checked.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=665&part=games&vs=29&league=any&map=any&from_year=2010&from_month=11&from_day=15&to_year=2012&to_month=2&to_day=24&action=Update
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Mycl
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1370 Posts
March 09 2012 14:07 GMT
#1732
On March 09 2012 23:06 nOondn wrote:
sorry Dapollo, Puma will go banshee .


I have seen Puma play many TvT's on this map and he really does like hellion drop
thepuppyassassin
Profile Joined April 2011
900 Posts
March 09 2012 14:08 GMT
#1733
Hmm undefeated in maps so far... Looks like MMA actually has a chance of putting up a decent fight against Feast.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
March 09 2012 14:08 GMT
#1734
On March 09 2012 23:07 Emptyness wrote:
He is making everything faster than Puma - faster SCVs, faster 1st rax > faster 1st marine > faster OC - omg does this guy can be beaten?


Dude, that's because PuMa got an earlier gas...
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Kaitokid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1327 Posts
March 09 2012 14:08 GMT
#1735
On March 09 2012 23:04 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 23:03 Kaitokid wrote:
I think its a bit disrespectful to say that MMA is by far the best player in the world when MVP, Nestea and DRG are not at the event... the other players there are just not on MMA's level, even the koreans but if players like MVP would be there MMA would definitely look weaker.

MMA beats them all regularly.


Yes but this tournament was just ez for MMA if you look at the players he played, the 3 non Koreans in his group were just food for him and JYP and viOLet are not exactly really top tier korean players. Zenio is not either.. imagine if he had to play Polt, DRG, Nestea, MVP, aLive. Those players are just on another level than PuMa, Zenio etc. Still MMA's play is very impressive of course but I think he wouldn't look that dominant if more top players like MC and MMA would be there. I consider MMA and MC to be by far the best players at this tournament.
nOondn
Profile Joined March 2011
564 Posts
March 09 2012 14:09 GMT
#1736
On March 09 2012 23:07 Mycl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 23:06 nOondn wrote:
sorry Dapollo, Puma will go banshee .


I have seen Puma play many TvT's on this map and he really does like hellion drop

Banshee you see ? =) .
Mid Master Terran @ kr server fighting !!!
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
March 09 2012 14:09 GMT
#1737
On March 09 2012 23:08 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Hmm undefeated in maps so far... Looks like MMA actually has a chance of putting up a decent fight against Feast.


lol now you are just baiting Seraphone, not nice
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Kaitokid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1327 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 14:11:14
March 09 2012 14:09 GMT
#1738
can't wait for MC vs MMA finals! MMA vs Feast would be interesting 2 but I think MC is the only one who can beat MMA.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
March 09 2012 14:09 GMT
#1739
On March 09 2012 23:08 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 23:07 Emptyness wrote:
He is making everything faster than Puma - faster SCVs, faster 1st rax > faster 1st marine > faster OC - omg does this guy can be beaten?


Dude, that's because PuMa got an earlier gas...


Nonsense! The best players get a passive reduction to the cost of their units and build times, just like the very-hard AI!
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
March 09 2012 14:09 GMT
#1740
Caduceus and viking from MMA, very nice!

PuMa going bio again, I disagree with that on Daybreak, his mech is so much better >.>
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
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