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msjakofsky
Profile Joined June 2011
1169 Posts
March 06 2012 17:07 GMT
#2321
On March 07 2012 02:01 Heavenly wrote:
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On March 07 2012 02:00 msjakofsky wrote:

Chris Loranger ‏ @LorangerChris
everyon1 watch the esl stream and seriously look at the player cam of elfi, look at the lightning speed of his hands, and him beat MC. pvp..


didn't elfi destroy huk with those lightning speed hands? isn't it ironic


Not at all, he's mocking PvP, why would it be ironic that he lost in a matchup he thinks is stupid?


lol dude are you for real? he's mocking elfi and trying to belittle elfi's accomplishment as a good pvp player. what on earth justifies such bitter tweets while someone else is playing a really hard game?

he isn't funny and isn't even right.
Youtakenocandle
Profile Joined February 2012
543 Posts
March 06 2012 17:07 GMT
#2322
110k LoL viewers, dang.
A_J_K
Profile Joined October 2011
41 Posts
March 06 2012 17:07 GMT
#2323
Nerchio 1:0 Grubby gogogo MC
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
March 06 2012 17:07 GMT
#2324
On March 07 2012 02:03 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:01 cyclone4tw wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:00 Seraphone wrote:
On March 07 2012 01:59 cyclone4tw wrote:
On March 07 2012 01:56 Shewklad wrote:
Chris Loranger ‏ @LorangerChris
everyon1 watch the esl stream and seriously look at the player cam of elfi, look at the lightning speed of his hands, and him beat MC. pvp..


HuKs twitter... :p


I'm surprised that someone like Huk can't understand PvP. I'll explain him how Elfi microed during that fight on 1st game:

1) He sent the zealots/immortals in front not clumped too much.
2) Once he got a 15-20 supply lead only from this positional advantage, he blinked in with his stalkers to snipe the Colossus/Immortals then he blinked back once his Stalkers were starting to die.

MC didn't do much during that fight other than a-move.

No offense to Huk, but l2p.


I'm glad the Huk has completely shut down guys like you who think PvP isn't luck.

Nice to know I don't need to keep explaining this to people.


He didn't shut down anyone. He's just blaming his poor results on PvP's luck. Oz is another player that proves PvP is not about luck.


Oz lost 2-0 to Huk..

Everyone knows PvP has the greatest luck factor. It also happens to be the matchup with the highest amount of foreigner upsets. Wonder if thats a coincidence..


pvp has a luck factor.

when u play huks style, it compeltly relies on it (DT rush or 4 gate seems to be his most used builds in pvp)
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LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
March 06 2012 17:08 GMT
#2325
Wow, he could've killed all the stalkers there if he had nailed the forcefield
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
Meself
Profile Joined February 2011
Estonia552 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-06 17:09:35
March 06 2012 17:08 GMT
#2326
On March 07 2012 02:04 Al Bundy wrote:
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On March 07 2012 02:03 zefreak wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:01 cyclone4tw wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:00 Seraphone wrote:
On March 07 2012 01:59 cyclone4tw wrote:
On March 07 2012 01:56 Shewklad wrote:
Chris Loranger ‏ @LorangerChris
everyon1 watch the esl stream and seriously look at the player cam of elfi, look at the lightning speed of his hands, and him beat MC. pvp..


HuKs twitter... :p


I'm surprised that someone like Huk can't understand PvP. I'll explain him how Elfi microed during that fight on 1st game:

1) He sent the zealots/immortals in front not clumped too much.
2) Once he got a 15-20 supply lead only from this positional advantage, he blinked in with his stalkers to snipe the Colossus/Immortals then he blinked back once his Stalkers were starting to die.

MC didn't do much during that fight other than a-move.

No offense to Huk, but l2p.


I'm glad the Huk has completely shut down guys like you who think PvP isn't luck.

Nice to know I don't need to keep explaining this to people.


He didn't shut down anyone. He's just blaming his poor results on PvP's luck. Oz is another player that proves PvP is not about luck.


Oz lost 2-0 to Huk..

Everyone knows PvP has the greatest luck factor. It also happens to be the matchup with the highest amount of foreigner upsets. Wonder if thats a coincidence..

I believe the issue in this discussion is that not everyone has the same definition of "luck" when it comes to PvP.


Period. As I wanted to say in a recent thread, people seem to mistake luck for volatility. Any decision that raises your probability of winning gives you an edge and should be made. Being uncertain of the outcome doesn't mean you don't have an edge once you get into a situation and need to start making decisions, microing etc. Otherwise people wouldn't post 60%+ winrates.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
March 06 2012 17:08 GMT
#2327
If Elfi trapped some stalkers, he should win... playing scared...
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
March 06 2012 17:09 GMT
#2328
Elfi has such a badass PvP style. This is great.
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Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
March 06 2012 17:09 GMT
#2329
Elfi has been supply blocked at 50 forever o_o
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
March 06 2012 17:10 GMT
#2330
On March 07 2012 02:07 Youtakenocandle wrote:
110k LoL viewers, dang.

Riot is pretty damn good at promoting. I played some games today and got linked to the tournament even though I didn't want to watch any of it.
Megakenny
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada829 Posts
March 06 2012 17:10 GMT
#2331
Why is my "Press ESC to exit full screen mode" bar on twitch not going away? Its appearing right over the production tabs.
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
March 06 2012 17:11 GMT
#2332
On March 07 2012 02:01 cyclone4tw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:00 Seraphone wrote:
On March 07 2012 01:59 cyclone4tw wrote:
On March 07 2012 01:56 Shewklad wrote:
Chris Loranger ‏ @LorangerChris
everyon1 watch the esl stream and seriously look at the player cam of elfi, look at the lightning speed of his hands, and him beat MC. pvp..


HuKs twitter... :p


I'm surprised that someone like Huk can't understand PvP. I'll explain him how Elfi microed during that fight on 1st game:

1) He sent the zealots/immortals in front not clumped too much.
2) Once he got a 15-20 supply lead only from this positional advantage, he blinked in with his stalkers to snipe the Colossus/Immortals then he blinked back once his Stalkers were starting to die.

MC didn't do much during that fight other than a-move.

No offense to Huk, but l2p.


I'm glad the Huk has completely shut down guys like you who think PvP isn't luck.

Nice to know I don't need to keep explaining this to people.


He didn't shut down anyone. He's just blaming his poor results on PvP's luck. Oz is another player that proves PvP is not about luck.


HuK beat Oz at MLG Arena

look at this tournament:
MC > Hasuobs
WhiteRa > MC
Hasuobs > WhiteRa

Look at MLG Orlando:
HerO > HuK
HuK > MC
MC > HuK
Ddoro > Inori
MC, HuK, HerO > Ddoro
A week before @IPL3, Inori > MC and HuK
you live and you learn
cyclone4tw
Profile Joined May 2008
Russian Federation32 Posts
March 06 2012 17:11 GMT
#2333
On March 07 2012 02:09 Talionis wrote:
Elfi has been supply blocked at 50 forever o_o


Ex - W3 player, saving for low-upkeep :D
teacash
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada494 Posts
March 06 2012 17:11 GMT
#2334
Gone are the days when i could go to TL homepage and not receive an instant spoiler about today's tournament
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
March 06 2012 17:11 GMT
#2335
My internet hates me, can someone do short recaps of MC v elfi?
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-06 17:12:20
March 06 2012 17:11 GMT
#2336
On March 07 2012 02:07 msjakofsky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 02:01 Heavenly wrote:
On March 07 2012 02:00 msjakofsky wrote:

Chris Loranger ‏ @LorangerChris
everyon1 watch the esl stream and seriously look at the player cam of elfi, look at the lightning speed of his hands, and him beat MC. pvp..


didn't elfi destroy huk with those lightning speed hands? isn't it ironic


Not at all, he's mocking PvP, why would it be ironic that he lost in a matchup he thinks is stupid?


lol dude are you for real? he's mocking elfi and trying to belittle elfi's accomplishment as a good pvp player. what on earth justifies such bitter tweets while someone else is playing a really hard game?

he isn't funny and isn't even right.


Are you for real? Look at the last sentence: "pvp.."

As in, he thinks it's a joke that someone as slow as elfi can beat someone like MC.

Yes, he is mocking elfi, but it's not ironic because he's mocking the ridiculousness of PvP. He is superior in the other matchups because he is the superior player mechanically, but overall mechanics are not necessarily that important in PvP.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
Luk_e
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany550 Posts
March 06 2012 17:12 GMT
#2337
and mc is first now
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 06 2012 17:13 GMT
#2338
On March 07 2012 02:11 teacash wrote:
Gone are the days when i could go to TL homepage and not receive an instant spoiler about today's tournament


There's an option for that ._.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
zocktol
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1928 Posts
March 06 2012 17:13 GMT
#2339
Apollo seems to really like Elfi :D

Showed a lot there :D
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
March 06 2012 17:13 GMT
#2340
Huh? How did MC lose those stalkers when he's so much faster with his hands than Elfi?
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