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Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8760 Posts
March 06 2012 16:54 GMT
#2281
On March 07 2012 01:52 zul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 01:49 Doublemint wrote:
On March 07 2012 01:47 zul wrote:
On March 07 2012 01:46 Doublemint wrote:
On March 07 2012 01:45 Stanlot wrote:
wish I could stream at 240p, I'm lagging horribly T_T


Yeah twitch or ESL - anyone of these 2 is fucking up pretty bad...

no problems here. streaming on 540+ all day long.


Well I also bought HD pass... which definitely does not help ignoring the issue -__-

I`m not saying that you don`t have a problem, I was just stating that this isn`t a general Twitch or ESL.tv problem. Hopefully tomorrow everything runs smooth for you


Thx, it´s just really annoying though. And it´s ridiculous if Elfi pwns MC^^
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
March 06 2012 16:55 GMT
#2282
On March 07 2012 01:53 Champloo wrote:
Hasu wins the group if he 2-0s White-Ra and Elfi beats MC, right?


if elfi beats MC and hasu wins, maps dont matter, cuz MC would have 3-2 and Hasu 4-1
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Shewklad
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden482 Posts
March 06 2012 16:56 GMT
#2283
Chris Loranger ‏ @LorangerChris
everyon1 watch the esl stream and seriously look at the player cam of elfi, look at the lightning speed of his hands, and him beat MC. pvp..


HuKs twitter... :p
Bomber || Thorzain || Startale >< No gods, no masters.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 06 2012 16:56 GMT
#2284
On March 07 2012 01:56 Shewklad wrote:
Show nested quote +
Chris Loranger ‏ @LorangerChris
everyon1 watch the esl stream and seriously look at the player cam of elfi, look at the lightning speed of his hands, and him beat MC. pvp..


HuKs twitter... :p


Huk trained with MC a lot, obviously he's gonna defend him. :p
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
March 06 2012 16:57 GMT
#2285
On March 07 2012 01:56 Shewklad wrote:
Show nested quote +
Chris Loranger ‏ @LorangerChris
everyon1 watch the esl stream and seriously look at the player cam of elfi, look at the lightning speed of his hands, and him beat MC. pvp..


HuKs twitter... :p

That just goes to show that speed < bad decision and micro.
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
March 06 2012 16:57 GMT
#2286
On March 07 2012 01:51 emraaa wrote:
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On March 07 2012 01:49 Seraphone wrote:
On March 07 2012 01:48 cyclone4tw wrote:
MC so bad in PvP :D


And yet he 2-0d Grubby and 2-0d HasuObs.

PvP is just luck.

Like there. Common sense says you would never attack like that so MC assumes Elfi won't and will be smart. But then Elfi does something which makes no sense and he wins. Because in PvP if you have a 1% edge you will lose 30% supply while the other guy loses everything.


elfi wouldnt have a 70% winrate pvp if it was luck


Luck doesn't mean every game is 50/50.

It means that in a best of three anyone can win.

Across 100 best of 3's skill comes into it which is why some players do better in PvP than others.

But across a single best of 3 PvP is mostly luck.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
morbvs
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany358 Posts
March 06 2012 16:57 GMT
#2287
On March 07 2012 01:49 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 01:47 zul wrote:
On March 07 2012 01:46 Doublemint wrote:
On March 07 2012 01:45 Stanlot wrote:
wish I could stream at 240p, I'm lagging horribly T_T


Yeah twitch or ESL - anyone of these 2 is fucking up pretty bad...

no problems here. streaming on 540+ all day long.


Well I also bought HD pass... which definitely does not help ignoring the issue -__-


Well I had severe lag issues at about lunchtime and had to go down to 480, but it seemed to fix itself in the early afternoon and I am watching 720+ without problems eversince. And I have 5 tabs with other streams open at the same time, no problem anywhere.
(When I had those lags earlier, some of the non-ESLtv streams were lagging too, so I guess it was twitch for me)
Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen.
Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
March 06 2012 16:57 GMT
#2288
On March 07 2012 01:52 00Visor wrote:
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On March 07 2012 01:50 Skat wrote:
If my math is not completely off, this means that Nerchio is out.

elfi can still lose the series and Nerchio win
and even if elfi wins, it depends on tiebreakers, Nerchio has direct win vs elfi

Nerchio won't advance if Elfi wins because his game score will be worse.
Ziken
Profile Joined August 2010
Ghana1743 Posts
March 06 2012 16:58 GMT
#2289
Oh man he needed to micro the warp prism.
Every misfortune is a blessing in disguise.
Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
March 06 2012 16:58 GMT
#2290
Awesome.

Get contained, drop immortals on the low ground and shoot everything to bits.

Elfi still pretty far behind though.
cyclone4tw
Profile Joined May 2008
Russian Federation32 Posts
March 06 2012 16:59 GMT
#2291
On March 07 2012 01:56 Shewklad wrote:
Show nested quote +
Chris Loranger ‏ @LorangerChris
everyon1 watch the esl stream and seriously look at the player cam of elfi, look at the lightning speed of his hands, and him beat MC. pvp..


HuKs twitter... :p


I'm surprised that someone like Huk can't understand PvP. I'll explain him how Elfi microed during that fight on 1st game:

1) He sent the zealots/immortals in front not clumped too much.
2) Once he got a 15-20 supply lead only from this positional advantage, he blinked in with his stalkers to snipe the Colossus/Immortals then he blinked back once his Stalkers were starting to die.

MC didn't do much during that fight other than a-move.

No offense to Huk, but l2p.

User was banned for this post.
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
March 06 2012 16:59 GMT
#2292
damn MC
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
March 06 2012 16:59 GMT
#2293
For all of his fans I really dislike Elfi's play, he seems to have poor timings and just sort of does stuff without much thought behind it.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 06 2012 16:59 GMT
#2294
Nerchio going through. Very well.
I had a good night of sleep.
msjakofsky
Profile Joined June 2011
1169 Posts
March 06 2012 17:00 GMT
#2295

Chris Loranger ‏ @LorangerChris
everyon1 watch the esl stream and seriously look at the player cam of elfi, look at the lightning speed of his hands, and him beat MC. pvp..


didn't elfi destroy huk with those lightning speed hands? isn't it ironic
Spitmode
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1510 Posts
March 06 2012 17:00 GMT
#2296
outplayed
"Make house -> Robots come out of house -> Robots shoot lazers -> Someone wins"
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
March 06 2012 17:00 GMT
#2297
On March 07 2012 01:59 cyclone4tw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2012 01:56 Shewklad wrote:
Chris Loranger ‏ @LorangerChris
everyon1 watch the esl stream and seriously look at the player cam of elfi, look at the lightning speed of his hands, and him beat MC. pvp..


HuKs twitter... :p


I'm surprised that someone like Huk can't understand PvP. I'll explain him how Elfi microed during that fight on 1st game:

1) He sent the zealots/immortals in front not clumped too much.
2) Once he got a 15-20 supply lead only from this positional advantage, he blinked in with his stalkers to snipe the Colossus/Immortals then he blinked back once his Stalkers were starting to die.

MC didn't do much during that fight other than a-move.

No offense to Huk, but l2p.


I'm glad the Huk has completely shut down guys like you who think PvP isn't luck.

Nice to know I don't need to keep explaining this to people.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
jojo311
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia903 Posts
March 06 2012 17:00 GMT
#2298
sick PvP between MC and elfi !
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
March 06 2012 17:01 GMT
#2299
On March 07 2012 01:59 zefreak wrote:
For all of his fans I really dislike Elfi's play, he seems to have poor timings and just sort of does stuff without much thought behind it.

You're the guy who does stuff without much thought behind it imo.
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
Jarree
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland1004 Posts
March 06 2012 17:01 GMT
#2300
On March 07 2012 01:56 Shewklad wrote:
Show nested quote +
Chris Loranger ‏ @LorangerChris
everyon1 watch the esl stream and seriously look at the player cam of elfi, look at the lightning speed of his hands, and him beat MC. pvp..


HuKs twitter... :p

Well Elfi rolfstomped Huk in Asus rog invite..
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