When: Friday, Mar 02 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (we will also have a European re-broadcast as usual at Friday, Mar 02 5:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00))
Format
This double-elimination tournament features 16 teams from around the world and is an All-Kill team format. This match is being played for Losers Round 3. The first team to defeat everyone on the opposing team's roster (5 wins, or a best of 9), will move on in the Losers Bracket, while the losing team will be eliminated from the tournament entirely. Keep in mind that this has a $20,000 prize pool, and only six teams will make it to the money!
New Star HoSeo Jjakji Hoon Sculp Shuttle Seal Flower Fake Freaky (RealMaker) Fairy Sage BanBans Tassadar San Carmel ggod
Empire Beastyqt Kas Happy Aristeo hoBot viOLet Welmu
The First Game for this match of IPL Team Arena Challenge 2 is on Friday, Mar 02 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (we will also have a European re-broadcast as usual at Friday, Mar 02 5:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00))
Sting < Darkness Falls > Aristeo Sting < Antiga Shipyard > Beastyqt Seal < Daybreak > Beastyqt Seal < Shakuras Plateau > Kas Seal < Atlantis Spaceship > viOLet Jjakji < Shattered Temple > viOLet Jjakji < Calm Before the Storm > Happy Congratulations to NSHoSeo, winning 5-2! They move on to LR4 and Empire is eliminated!
On March 02 2012 03:33 JiYan wrote: foreigners' last stand? i really want to root for NSH but im torn to fight for the foreigners ahh
? TL is still in it too. Because you cant really call empire a foreign anymore (violet)
By that logic, dignitas isent a foreign team since they have select on it. Violet is living in texas, so his training oppotunities are the same as the foreigners. Not to mention Kas, Beastyqt and happy are all really strong in the european scene.
On March 02 2012 03:33 JiYan wrote: foreigners' last stand? i really want to root for NSH but im torn to fight for the foreigners ahh
? TL is still in it too. Because you cant really call empire a foreign anymore (violet)
By that logic TL is also a Korean team, with twice as many Koreans as Empire. :p
I'd just say TL and Empire are both not complete foreign teams. And you cant really say Dignitas isnt a foreign team, because Select has no Code S background, while Violet has. And he is from Korea and from a korean team.
On March 02 2012 03:33 JiYan wrote: foreigners' last stand? i really want to root for NSH but im torn to fight for the foreigners ahh
? TL is still in it too. Because you cant really call empire a foreign anymore (violet)
By that logic TL is also a Korean team, with twice as many Koreans as Empire. :p
I'd just say TL and Empire are both not complete foreign teams. And you cant really say Dignitas isnt a foreign team, because Select has no Code S background, while Violet has. And he is from Korea and from a korean team.
Select does have a Code A background. But let's not wade into this murky area of what constitutes a "foreigner" and "Korean".
On a completely different note, Empire can definitely win here. Beastyqt, Violet and Kas have all shown that they can take down Korean players. They beat col-MVP very convincingly, and forced Prime to an ace match. I definitely think they have the potential to beat NSHoseo, but they need to watch out for players like Jjakji and San.
I actually see Empire take this. NSHS' results have not been very promising lately, especially in team leagues. Of course Empire is lacking a very top tier player, but jjakji's impact may be limited due to cross server play, and any other player of the NSHS roster looks very beatable to me. If Empire catch a good day and play their best, they should take this!
On March 02 2012 10:16 Wherewolf wrote: Would it be a good idea for Aristeo to get a few extra queens to build up energy for transfusing the hatches and to be around for general defense?
Meh.. it's soo long. Hatch have 1500 hp, transfusion is 125 hp. And the natural regen of building is slow as hell.
On March 02 2012 10:16 Wherewolf wrote: Would it be a good idea for Aristeo to get a few extra queens to build up energy for transfusing the hatches and to be around for general defense?
Not really, I reckon. Marine/tank makes queens (and the few hps they could transfuse) evaporate, while Aristeo was already starved for army.
Antiga Shipyard in TvT really centers around the middle. Assuming both players are going for bio the player that gets the center has an easier to secure fourth base and you can easily set up the middle (unsieged) to control movement, you can react and presiege whereever your opponent wants to go.
Its even more frustrating when one guy meching gets the middle.
On March 02 2012 10:25 AlternativeEgo wrote: Oh c'mon Naruto, they said it was Beasty next before you posted (yes, I did refresh to see what you guys thought of it but no one mentioned it). :p
? I did say before they mentioned it o.o; your stream is from the future!
On March 02 2012 10:36 Type|NarutO wrote: If BeastyQT loses, they will send Happy.
Really? I think they'd send out ViOlet, sending out another T to someone who just killed Beasty seems shortsighted, although I guess being so Terran heavy screws up that logic lol
On March 02 2012 10:36 Type|NarutO wrote: If BeastyQT loses, they will send Happy.
Really? I think they'd send out ViOlet, sending out another T to someone who just killed Beasty seems shortsighted, although I guess being so Terran heavy screws up that logic lol
Having the Zerg pick the map and having the Terran pick the map on the other hand is very important. Violet is an excellent player and the chance of losing a ZvZ compared to a TvZ if both are evenly matched is a lot higher. Whenever you send out the same race you kind of give away the map-pick advantage assuming the fact that you have other players you can field that are equally good.
I'd say Happy OR Kas -> Shattered Temple or Terminus.
On March 02 2012 10:36 Type|NarutO wrote: If BeastyQT loses, they will send Happy.
Really? I think they'd send out ViOlet, sending out another T to someone who just killed Beasty seems shortsighted, although I guess being so Terran heavy screws up that logic lol
Having the Zerg pick the map and having the Terran pick the map on the other hand is very important. Violet is an excellent player and the chance of losing a ZvZ compared to a TvZ if both are evenly matched is a lot higher. Whenever you send out the same race you kind of give away the map-pick advantage assuming the fact that you have other players you can field that are equally good.
Yeah, good point. And iirc TvZ is Happy's best MU, though he's been sent out against T and P a lot lately, I remember him taking out PuMa impressed me quite a bit
edit: I think losing that army is game, no way he can remax and let Seal just get ups and hive tech, especially without even taking the hatch out
I don't really like this midgame poke from Beasty. If the Zerg decides to build up a few units he can easily overwhelm the Terran force. Obviously that means he won't build as much drones, BUT! even if you can get ahead in economy, you will lose your chance to push later in the game, you basically lose time in which Zerg can do whatever he wants.
Other than that, Beasty is playing well, yet I like Seals position. The only thing he needs to keep an eye on is having a transition. Okay right as I write it -> infestor energy upgrade.
I'd really pick Terminus over Shakuras, but I guess both picks are Terran favored. Looking forward to it. If Kas wins, NSHS is probably going with Tassadar or San. I can't imagine they want to send out Jjaki that early, if at all.
On March 02 2012 10:54 Type|NarutO wrote: I'd really pick Terminus over Shakuras, but I guess both picks are Terran favored. Looking forward to it. If Kas wins, NSHS is probably going with Tassadar or San. I can't imagine they want to send out Jjaki that early, if at all.
Really appreciating the expert analysis. Keep it up please
On March 02 2012 10:54 Type|NarutO wrote: I'd really pick Terminus over Shakuras, but I guess both picks are Terran favored. Looking forward to it. If Kas wins, NSHS is probably going with Tassadar or San. I can't imagine they want to send out Jjaki that early, if at all.
I'm thinking San. They send him out to snipe marineking. I'm thinking he's definitely their main terran sniper
Casters, Kas was tempting the drone into his base while his barracks was finishing because terrans like to bait the drone scout up the ramp then lock it out for an ez kill (by marine) and deny the scout, but Seal's drone arrived too soon. This is deceptive because if there is already a wall, A.I. causes the drone to wander to other corners below the ramp.
On March 02 2012 10:54 Type|NarutO wrote: I'd really pick Terminus over Shakuras, but I guess both picks are Terran favored. Looking forward to it. If Kas wins, NSHS is probably going with Tassadar or San. I can't imagine they want to send out Jjaki that early, if at all.
I'm thinking San. They send him out to snipe marineking. I'm thinking he's definitely their main terran sniper
Probably. By the way we've nearly the same post count and our signatures are kind of the same thing as well, haha.
On March 02 2012 10:54 Type|NarutO wrote: I'd really pick Terminus over Shakuras, but I guess both picks are Terran favored. Looking forward to it. If Kas wins, NSHS is probably going with Tassadar or San. I can't imagine they want to send out Jjaki that early, if at all.
I'm thinking San. They send him out to snipe marineking. I'm thinking he's definitely their main terran sniper
Probably. By the way we've nearly the same post count and our signatures are kind of the same thing as well, haha.
Too bad you're way better than me at this game. I do like your taste in players
On March 02 2012 10:54 Type|NarutO wrote: I'd really pick Terminus over Shakuras, but I guess both picks are Terran favored. Looking forward to it. If Kas wins, NSHS is probably going with Tassadar or San. I can't imagine they want to send out Jjaki that early, if at all.
I'm thinking San. They send him out to snipe marineking. I'm thinking he's definitely their main terran sniper
I don't think he's actually been sent out in a team league to ever snipe a P or Z, his PvT is so solid, it's great to have a player like that especially against Empire. Although I think both Kas and Happy have a shot at taking him.
I really like what Kas did with getting that greedy early third command center, yet I dislike his choice of actually muling constantly. Yes, your income will skyrocket but you can reach maximum saturation on 2 base quiet easily and muling from three orbitals will make you mine out really fast.
On 2 base with 3 orbitals I actually quiet like the idea of calling down extra supply, because first of all its 100 minerals that are actually not on the map and its instant. If you don't feel comfortable taking your actual third base, that is the way to go at least to me.
Kas actually already upgrading 2-2 against Seals 1-0 as soon as Kas doesn't fuck up and sets up a good position in the middle and secure a fourth base behind it, I don't see him losing the game.
Lmao Doa going on and on about Bob Ross is cracking me up. This team league is really starting to make me a Doa fan, and CatsPJs is pretty good too(what a great voice for casting!).
Kas is beasting it up, as always. I don't think that you can quite say that he's underrated at this point, but I definitely don't think he gets as much credit as he should. He is an incredible player.
Why did he wait for the mutas...wow that might have cost him the game. On the minimap you could see the slings come and just sit there, then the mutas...he could have taken that >.>
On March 02 2012 11:04 Type|NarutO wrote: I really like what Kas did with getting that greedy early third command center, yet I dislike his choice of actually muling constantly. Yes, your income will skyrocket but you can reach maximum saturation on 2 base quiet easily and muling from three orbitals will make you mine out really fast.
On 2 base with 3 orbitals I actually quiet like the idea of calling down extra supply, because first of all its 100 minerals that are actually not on the map and its instant. If you don't feel comfortable taking your actual third base, that is the way to go at least to me.
Kas actually already upgrading 2-2 against Seals 1-0 as soon as Kas doesn't fuck up and sets up a good position in the middle and secure a fourth base behind it, I don't see him losing the game.
Idk, I think getting enough supply depots up to drop em on takes a while, you generally don't want to drop on a depot making a wall, and 3 cc at 4min is a fair amount of supply in itself. I think Kas would have benefitted from taking early 3/4 geysers, as he had to delay beginning tank/starport production while floating some minerals. If you're gonna MULE all out, it'd seem like additional gas is necessary. When MKP plays like this he generally flats 200-300 gas after getting his 3rd refinery as soon as he takes his nat but spends it all by 8/9minutes.
On March 02 2012 11:06 Type|NarutO wrote: 3-3 on its way when Zerg is going for +2 attack. Once 3-3 hits and Zerg has no hive transition / infestors, he'll flat out die.
Why do you think Kas put his attack off for so long?
On March 02 2012 11:04 Type|NarutO wrote: I really like what Kas did with getting that greedy early third command center, yet I dislike his choice of actually muling constantly. Yes, your income will skyrocket but you can reach maximum saturation on 2 base quiet easily and muling from three orbitals will make you mine out really fast.
On 2 base with 3 orbitals I actually quiet like the idea of calling down extra supply, because first of all its 100 minerals that are actually not on the map and its instant. If you don't feel comfortable taking your actual third base, that is the way to go at least to me.
Kas actually already upgrading 2-2 against Seals 1-0 as soon as Kas doesn't fuck up and sets up a good position in the middle and secure a fourth base behind it, I don't see him losing the game.
That's actually a really good idea. I think in some cases, we need to move away from the "embarrassing" supply drop stigma. Although it's still embarrassing 95% of the time.
I'm not really sure what kept Kas in his base for that long. He could have taking a forward position a long time ago. Now there are broodlords morphing and infestors are out since Kas didn't pressure at all. Obviously Terran on 4 base, taking a 5th can take a very good defensive position, YET if Seal is patient with broodlord/infestor/corrupter it really is Seal's game to lose.
Uncharacteristic, he's floating 2k/2k while JUST getting more starports and a ghost academy, I always feel like Kas overbuilds production at the right time, playing kinda sloppy this game
On March 02 2012 11:12 Noocta wrote: Yeah.. i'm sorry but since ghost nerf, you just can't beat the kind of army Seal have here. :/
That's what ThorZaIN and DeMusliM thought at MLG...oh wait.
Kas decided to invest in 6 supply thors with minimal upgrades instead of producing 3/3 rines. His harass was really not there all game and he waited SOOOOOOO long to push.
Thats the reason I would have picked Terminus or even Shattered over Shakuras. Yes Shakuras is a good map for Terran in mid to early-late, yet once Zergs reach such an army its very hard to beat them as you cannot use the immobility of it. On Terminus you can kind of do what Supernova did against sLivko, run around it or the way Polt does handle it - with huge drops.
On Shakuras you can drop, but the main attack path is one side and the chance of actually dodging the main army or bypassing it are slim.
holy moly as doa said we are gonna see a very though time for terrans what could kas do there? infestor broodlord corruptor so strong maybe he should have been sticking with ghost and just ignore the patch or at least get some ghost earlier and mix it up
On March 02 2012 11:12 Noocta wrote: Yeah.. i'm sorry but since ghost nerf, you just can't beat the kind of army Seal have here. :/
That's what ThorZaIN and DeMusliM thought at MLG...oh wait.
Kas decided to invest in 6 supply thors with minimal upgrades instead of producing 3/3 rines. His harass was really not there all game and he waited SOOOOOOO long to push.
They hit'ed way before the BL corruptor army get to this point tho. The only game i saw where a terran beat a legit BLs corruptor army is still Polt vs Stephano on Antigua but.. comon.. almost noone can pull that off :S
I guess there's something to explore with geting ravens with the vikings ( like when you throw down 3 more starport, put techlab on 2 of them ) and use PPD and after that HSM. That's a lot of theory tho..
On March 02 2012 11:16 Badfatpanda wrote: Kas decided to invest in 6 supply thors with minimal upgrades instead of producing 3/3 rines. His harass was really not there all game and he waited SOOOOOOO long to push.
On March 02 2012 11:12 Noocta wrote: Yeah.. i'm sorry but since ghost nerf, you just can't beat the kind of army Seal have here. :/
Pffft. TvZ lategame is barely explored. Terran used to be able to mass Ghosts and snipe the shit out of all Zerg T3, now maybe they'll have to incorporate Ravens more intelligently or something. Give it time.
On March 02 2012 11:19 Shellshock1122 wrote: How is seal's zvz? I cant recall any examples in gstl and I've never watched his stream.
I have never seen him being used purpousefully against zerg opponents. From what I recall from his match vs BboongBboong, his ZvZ is quite "meh": not heinous but not necessarily good.
On March 02 2012 11:20 Jarree wrote: Yeah i really would have liked to see mass ghost still, just to see if it does anything. I heard some snipes.. but nothing died? :D
He used a handful on corruptors. I would have liked him to try sniping infestors; there were not that many at a point, and now snipe is extremely good against infestors (2 down from 3).
On March 02 2012 11:12 Noocta wrote: Yeah.. i'm sorry but since ghost nerf, you just can't beat the kind of army Seal have here. :/
That's what ThorZaIN and DeMusliM thought at MLG...oh wait.
Kas decided to invest in 6 supply thors with minimal upgrades instead of producing 3/3 rines. His harass was really not there all game and he waited SOOOOOOO long to push.
They hit'ed way before the BL corruptor army get to this point tho. The only game i saw where a terran beat a legit BLs corruptor army is still Polt vs Stephano on Antigua but.. comon.. almost noone can pull that off :S
I guess there's something to explore with geting ravens with the vikings ( like when you throw down 3 more starport, put techlab on 2 of them ) and use PPD and after that HSM. That's a lot of theory tho..
But the reason I brought up those games were because both players went mech and ROLLED a BL/Corrupter army in 30+ and 40+minute games, you just need to scout and adjust your composition to fit their tech. Foreigner Terrans play too passive in general whereas Polt was in Stephano's face from the 6minute mark in nearly all of his games.
On March 02 2012 11:21 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote: Well Brood/infestor/corruptor is pretty unstoppable. It's terran's fault for bringing it to late game, should have know he'd have no chance.
Well actually thats not completely true, but as I explained first of all I don't know why Kas took such a defensive position when he was clearly ahead in upgrades and could have pushed the issue, making Seal spend gas on actually banelings and other stuff to defend instead of heavily teching... AND letting Zerg get such an army on Shakuras where you cannot bypass it NOR use the immobility of it against it was a big mistake.
I don't want to say it was weak by Kas as he's an excellent player, but for me as observer that was his mistake but you always have to understand that what he saw was completely different from what we could actually see. His defensive position would be very good against a brutal mass ling baneling muta style, as it becomes completely inefficient against a maxed Terran.
On March 02 2012 11:16 Badfatpanda wrote: Kas decided to invest in 6 supply thors with minimal upgrades instead of producing 3/3 rines. His harass was really not there all game and he waited SOOOOOOO long to push.
it was 2-0 for thors
Yeah, barely upgraded. You need armor to tank broodling damage or else they die that fast without doing damage, and +damage scales SOOO much with attack upgrades because of the javelin missle splash. It was really inefficient that he got 30 supply in thors without getting sufficient upgrades.
On March 02 2012 11:23 Shellshock1122 wrote: Naruto, who do you send to snipe violet? Go ahead and unleash Jjakji or put in someone like Sage?
nvm. not a factor it looks like
I would send Jjaki, yes.
Still Jjakji even though you got a player to burn with a 3-2 lead? They don't have a Protoss that can snipe Sage imo, but I guess sending out Jjakji would be less of the risk since violet is pretty good and could potentially beat Sage
On March 02 2012 11:23 Shellshock1122 wrote: Naruto, who do you send to snipe violet? Go ahead and unleash Jjakji or put in someone like Sage?
nvm. not a factor it looks like
I would send Jjaki, yes.
Still Jjakji even though you got a player to burn with a 3-2 lead? They don't have a Protoss that can snipe Sage imo, but I guess sending out Jjakji would be less of the risk since violet is pretty good and could potentially beat Sage
I think sending out your best player against their potentially best player giving your player the edge of picking the map which can be the very Terran favored Terminus or Shattered still would be close to a secured win and Jjaki is not just insanely good vs Zerg, but insanely good all around while a PvZ specialist might not be able to pick apart Happy.
On March 02 2012 11:23 Shellshock1122 wrote: Naruto, who do you send to snipe violet? Go ahead and unleash Jjakji or put in someone like Sage?
nvm. not a factor it looks like
I would send Jjaki, yes.
Still Jjakji even though you got a player to burn with a 3-2 lead? They don't have a Protoss that can snipe Sage imo, but I guess sending out Jjakji would be less of the risk since violet is pretty good and could potentially beat Sage
I think sending out your best player against their potentially best player giving your player the edge of picking the map which can be the very Terran favored Terminus or Shattered still would be close to a secured win and Jjaki is not just insanely good vs Zerg, but insanely good all around while a PvZ specialist might not be able to pick apart Happy.
True. Jjakji coming and and picking Shattered. Good call. How does Happy's TvT match up to his TvZ and TvP? Probably not good enough to beat Jjakji still?
I think sending out your best player against their potentially best player giving your player the edge of picking the map which can be the very Terran favored Terminus or Shattered still would be close to a secured win and Jjaki is not just insanely good vs Zerg, but insanely good all around while a PvZ specialist might not be able to pick apart Happy.
If Violet loses they have to send Happy because even if Welmu / hoBot had builds prepared to snipe Jjakji they would not be good enough of allround players to beat the next player. I still think Jjajki will finish Empire off.
On March 02 2012 11:23 Shellshock1122 wrote: Naruto, who do you send to snipe violet? Go ahead and unleash Jjakji or put in someone like Sage?
nvm. not a factor it looks like
I would send Jjaki, yes.
Still Jjakji even though you got a player to burn with a 3-2 lead? They don't have a Protoss that can snipe Sage imo, but I guess sending out Jjakji would be less of the risk since violet is pretty good and could potentially beat Sage
I think sending out your best player against their potentially best player giving your player the edge of picking the map which can be the very Terran favored Terminus or Shattered still would be close to a secured win and Jjaki is not just insanely good vs Zerg, but insanely good all around while a PvZ specialist might not be able to pick apart Happy.
True. Jjakji coming and and picking Shattered. Good call. How does Happy's TvT match up to his TvZ and TvP? Probably not good enough to beat Jjakji still?
Happy's TvT is very good even though the statistics say its a lot worse than his other two match ups, yet I don't believe its enough to take down Jjakji. You can never say 'he won't win' in a best of 1, but to me its unlikely.
On March 02 2012 11:37 Type|NarutO wrote: If Violet loses they have to send Happy because even if Welmu / hoBot had builds prepared to snipe Jjakji they would not be good enough of allround players to beat the next player. I still think Jjajki will finish Empire off.
Even if Happy manages to take down Jjakji they always have sculp who has pretty strong TvT. NSHS is definitely in a very strong position unless violet pulls off this upset
On March 02 2012 11:42 Type|NarutO wrote: If Violet loses it will be Jjakji vs Happy on Calm before the Storm - would be my bet.
If he doesnt use up CBTS but manages to beat Jjakji they will use San on CBTS. PvT sniper on CBTS would be bad news so it would make a lot of sense to go ahead and get rid of it. This would also make me think NSHS would be more likely to send out Sculp against Happy if he got through Jjakji
On March 02 2012 11:42 Type|NarutO wrote: If Violet loses it will be Jjakji vs Happy on Calm before the Storm - would be my bet.
If he doesnt use up CBTS but manages to beat Jjakji they will use San on CBTS. PvT sniper on CBTS would be bad news so it would make a lot of sense to go ahead and get rid of it. This would also make me think NSHS would be more likely to send out Sculp against Happy if he got through Jjakji
I actually think Happy would fuck up a Protoss on CBTS, as he playes a very late game centered mass ghost style and is very defensive with nukes etc. I'd not field a Protoss on CBTS.
On March 02 2012 11:42 Type|NarutO wrote: If Violet loses it will be Jjakji vs Happy on Calm before the Storm - would be my bet.
If he doesnt use up CBTS but manages to beat Jjakji they will use San on CBTS. PvT sniper on CBTS would be bad news so it would make a lot of sense to go ahead and get rid of it. This would also make me think NSHS would be more likely to send out Sculp against Happy if he got through Jjakji
I actually think Happy would fuck up a Protoss on CBTS, as he playes a very late game centered mass ghost style and is very defensive with nukes etc. I'd not field a Protoss on CBTS.
So are you thinking Sculp would be sent out vs Happy as well? I think he's supposed to be nshs's best TvTer
On March 02 2012 11:42 Type|NarutO wrote: If Violet loses it will be Jjakji vs Happy on Calm before the Storm - would be my bet.
If he doesnt use up CBTS but manages to beat Jjakji they will use San on CBTS. PvT sniper on CBTS would be bad news so it would make a lot of sense to go ahead and get rid of it. This would also make me think NSHS would be more likely to send out Sculp against Happy if he got through Jjakji
I actually think Happy would fuck up a Protoss on CBTS, as he playes a very late game centered mass ghost style and is very defensive with nukes etc. I'd not field a Protoss on CBTS.
So are you thinking Sculp would be sent out vs Happy as well? I think he's supposed to be nshs's best TvTer
I think they will send a Protoss, I just don't think its a good idea, haha, but to begin with, I don't think Happy will win.
On March 02 2012 11:42 Type|NarutO wrote: If Violet loses it will be Jjakji vs Happy on Calm before the Storm - would be my bet.
ur insane naruto did u get replays spoilered?°^^ but jea as far as happy likes to play super lategame calm before the storm is clearly his best map of choice
On March 02 2012 11:42 Type|NarutO wrote: If Violet loses it will be Jjakji vs Happy on Calm before the Storm - would be my bet.
If he doesnt use up CBTS but manages to beat Jjakji they will use San on CBTS. PvT sniper on CBTS would be bad news so it would make a lot of sense to go ahead and get rid of it. This would also make me think NSHS would be more likely to send out Sculp against Happy if he got through Jjakji
I actually think Happy would fuck up a Protoss on CBTS, as he playes a very late game centered mass ghost style and is very defensive with nukes etc. I'd not field a Protoss on CBTS.
So are you thinking Sculp would be sent out vs Happy as well? I think he's supposed to be nshs's best TvTer
I think they will send a Protoss, I just don't think its a good idea, haha, but to begin with, I don't think Happy will win.
Edit: Haha I did predict correct, Happy on CBTS
jjakji's TvT is pretty underwhelming so Happy does have hope
On March 02 2012 11:42 Type|NarutO wrote: If Violet loses it will be Jjakji vs Happy on Calm before the Storm - would be my bet.
If he doesnt use up CBTS but manages to beat Jjakji they will use San on CBTS. PvT sniper on CBTS would be bad news so it would make a lot of sense to go ahead and get rid of it. This would also make me think NSHS would be more likely to send out Sculp against Happy if he got through Jjakji
I actually think Happy would fuck up a Protoss on CBTS, as he playes a very late game centered mass ghost style and is very defensive with nukes etc. I'd not field a Protoss on CBTS.
So are you thinking Sculp would be sent out vs Happy as well? I think he's supposed to be nshs's best TvTer
I think they will send a Protoss, I just don't think its a good idea, haha, but to begin with, I don't think Happy will win.
Edit: Haha I did predict correct, Happy on CBTS
I doubt he will win, but like you said, can't count him out in a bo1. I think he has an ok chance. Jjakji has beatable TvT compared to his other matchups
On March 02 2012 11:52 Ricemagical wrote: What is doa talking about? infestor/ling/broodlord when he hasnt even started his spire?
cant go ultras when youre behind so he was going to go BL eventually
And ultras suck on Shattered Temple
Not only that: if you try to surprise a terran playing marine/tank with a quick hive, from behind, and pick ultras, he will just shrug and think "oh okay, I'll take that".
On March 02 2012 12:00 Bagration wrote: 5k for a single showmatch? Damn, that must be a record for competitive SC2.
Stephano's pretty happy about it i guess. For someone who want to win the most he can from SC2 before doing something else, he definitly know which events/tournaments to participate. x)
On March 02 2012 12:00 Bagration wrote: 5k for a single showmatch? Damn, that must be a record for competitive SC2.
Stephano's pretty happy about it i guess. For someone who want to win the most he can from SC2 before doing something else, he definitly know which events/tournaments to participate. x)
He was voted into the showmatch with WhiteRa by fans (I didn't vote for him).
On March 02 2012 11:42 Type|NarutO wrote: If Violet loses it will be Jjakji vs Happy on Calm before the Storm - would be my bet.
ur insane naruto did u get replays spoilered?°^^ but jea as far as happy likes to play super lategame calm before the storm is clearly his best map of choice
Happy manages to bring every game he's been playing recently to lategame lol, good TvT but I think Jjakji has an insurmountable advantage. Really impressive run by Empire and I'm glad that they're entering more high profile team leagues!
Happy was pretty impressive, especially since he was contained so early and still was able to push back Jjakji multiple times. Jjakji was really good about denying bases though and eventually just starved him out, even though Happy had much better control.
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