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Date: Friday, Feb 24 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
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-- 4 BO1 1v1s
-- If tied after all 4 games there is a BO3 Ace Match
- Players are picked before the match is started and picked based on the given map
- 7 Week Season
- Top 4 are seeded into Playoffs
#2 Liquid (4-1) vs #3 FXO (4-1)
Match 1
Match 2
Match 3
Match 4
Ace Match (If Applicable)
Poll: Who Will Win?Team Liquid (63) 66% FXOpen (33) 34% 96 total votes Your vote: Who Will Win? (Vote): Team Liquid
(Vote): FXOpen
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LIQUID FIGHTING
After they 5-0'd EG, I'd love to see them tackle this entry-level Korean monster. >:D
Foreigners coming for the Korean blood! Watch out!
.... jk incoming Sheth 5-0
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On February 23 2012 07:32 BlueBoxSC wrote:
LIQUID FIGHTING
After they 5-0'd EG, I'd love to see them tackle this entry-level Korean monster. >:D
Foreigners coming for the Korean blood! Watch out!
.... jk incoming Sheth 5-0
Hard to 5-0 someone when you play only one match ^^.
Hope Liquid smashes fxo gogo liquid!
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United States5356 Posts
My predictions...
Ret < Lucky
This could go either way, but I wasn't impressed by Ret's showing at IEM against Violet and Darkforce, and although I haven't watched a lot of Lucky's ZvZ recently, his early 2012/late 2011 games were really solid. I'll favor Lucky by a little bit. This game is very important to both teams. In fact, this game is by far the most important match of the entire series.
Zenio < GuMiho
The only match where I think FXO is guaranteed, or at least super confident to win. GuMiho has really strong TvZ, and it showed when he knocked out Zenio in the GSL, add in that Zenio does poorly against a lot of Korean terrans, and GuMiho should take this match.
HerO > Tear
Tear is completely unknown to me, no idea what he plays like, so he could be some godly PvPer for all I know. But HerO has been looking pretty solid on both his stream and he did beat a very good PvPer in JYP only a few days ago in GSL... It might be a close game...
Who am I kidding, HerO's going to roflstomp him. (blatant fanboyism)
Sheth > Choya
SHETH!!! <3 Off of his ridiculous all-kill against EG, and a very well-played match against JYP, I can't help but root for Sheth in this game. His ZvP looked great against Sase in the MLG qualifiers, and factoring in Choya's bad PvZ (he lost to Destiny...), Sheth should take this.
Ace Match
I'll go with HerO vs GuMiho, in which GuMiho takes it barely 2-1. It pains me to say it, but HerO does badly against Korean Terrans, whether it's on ladder or at events. GuMiho looked great against Puzzle in GSL, and I'm going to assume that he will play the same way against HerO. Then again, HerO took out Kas, a strong TvP player last time in NASTL. Anything can happen  Of course, Lucky might lose to Ret, and then itd be 3-1 Liquid ^^
The first Ret vs. Lucky match will be the pivotal point. If Ret wins, it'll most likely be 3-1 Liquid. If Lucky wins, FXO has a great chance of winning in the ace match with GuMiho.
Just my predictions, they could be completely wrong...
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United States1770 Posts
ret > lucky
zenio < gumiho
hero > tear
sheth > choya
the first game is going to be so key
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I really want Liquid to win this. Lucky did beat Ret at IPL3, but I hope Ret can pull out the win in the Bo1. Zenio is the underdog against Gumiho. If I were Zenio I would strongly consider pulling a Lucky and doing a roach-ling or baneling bust otherwise Gumiho might just overrun Zenio's mid and late game. I hope Hero beats Tear, and I think he is favored to do so, but PvP is volatile in a Bo1. Finally, I think Sheth should be able to beat Choya.
Go Liquid! Let's get another sweep!
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United States996 Posts
lets go tl! gooooood luck!
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Both teams will go through to the knockout stage and no real pressure on either as I think the top 4 (Empire, Mous, Liquid and FXO) are all around the same level so the seedings into the final stage don't really have a huge meaning. However, I'm always happy to see Choya lose so go Sheth
Let's get to the playoffs already!
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its going to be really hard I think this may be all of liquids worst matchups  except for Sheth if we can make it there I hope we can though. Liquid Fighting!!
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I'd say this is doable, looking good for Hero and Sheth.
I hope Ret can take his revenge for IPL3 too, remembering those 2 sneak Banelings is still painful. -__-
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Australia54784 Posts
Liquid to win 3-1, even though I like FXO a tad more... I think the lag for Choya and Lucky work against them.
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On February 23 2012 07:33 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 07:32 BlueBoxSC wrote:
LIQUID FIGHTING
After they 5-0'd EG, I'd love to see them tackle this entry-level Korean monster. >:D
Foreigners coming for the Korean blood! Watch out!
.... jk incoming Sheth 5-0 Hard to 5-0 someone when you play only one match ^^. Hope Liquid smashes fxo gogo liquid!
Oh, read this as IPL, not NASTL. xD
Still, Sheth gonna 5-0.
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On February 23 2012 08:23 System42 wrote:its going to be really hard I think this may be all of liquids worst matchups except for Sheth if we can make it there I hope we can though. Liquid Fighting!!
not at all
statistically its best matchups for Ret and HerO as well (everyone complains about ZvZ and PvP)
Liquid has a decent chance
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On February 23 2012 07:33 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2012 07:32 BlueBoxSC wrote:
LIQUID FIGHTING
After they 5-0'd EG, I'd love to see them tackle this entry-level Korean monster. >:D
Foreigners coming for the Korean blood! Watch out!
.... jk incoming Sheth 5-0 Hard to 5-0 someone when you play only one match ^^. Hope Liquid smashes fxo gogo liquid!
Won't stop him.
Anyway, this should be close but in favor of FXO (pretty obvious analysis xD)
Ret < Lucky
Zenio < Gumibear
Hero > Tear
Sheth > Choya
anyone < Gumiho
Ret could win (but Zenio not, imo, his ZvT is too fragile imo, often falls apart late game vs strong Korean terrans), and obviously Hero and Sheth could lose. Basically if Ret loses, Liquid is done.
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I think TL will take it 3:1:
Ret > Lucky - This matchup is tricky but i think Ret is even stronger than Sheth and since IPL final i kinda dont believe in Lucky's zvz aganist top foreign zerg.
Zenio < Gumiho - Gumiho is too good now, can even take GSL.
Hero > Tear - Hero doesnt dissapoint as of late. Should outclass Tear, but still its pvp so you never know.
Sheth > Choya - Sheth is a beast mode now and Choya isn't top korean.
Kinda sad Nony isnt participating in teamleagues but i guess he is not ready yet
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I don't know which way to call it. Hero > Tear and Zenio < Gumiho are the two I am confident about. But the other two are very difficult for me to predict (I haven't seen a lot of Choya lately, how is his play?)
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If Ret manages to beat Lucky, TL will have this.
Like others have stated it's going to be insane for Zenio to beat Gumiho who's currently in tip top form.
I believe HerO will beat Tear, and sheth can beat Choya, if he can fend of the cheese that is going to come.
3 - 1 for liquid, and otherwise 2 - 2 and 3 - 2 Liquid after Ace.
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No Leenock? Team liquid takes this.
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If only sheth could play every game!
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Ret vs Lucky is going to be the key match for sure. If Ret wins, TL has 75% chance of winning. If he lose, only 25%. I sure hope the former will happen though. LIQUID FIGHTING!!!
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FXO should win, because they have to feel a bit embarassed after losing 3-0 to mouz. I think it might be close if Liquid doesn't get any BO losses or something like that, but overall I'd give FXO an edge.
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I love how teams put their Big players in NASTL but.. i hate the format...
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gogogo teamliquid! you guys can do this! <3
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United States97276 Posts
ret > Lucky
Zenio < GuMiho
Hero > Tear
Sheth > Choya
Liquid wins 3-1
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losing in solo league almost always leads to complete destruction in team league. im sorry zenio but gumiho is gonna kick the crap out of you
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This is going to be a very close match. I honestly don't think Liquid will take it, but we'll see. Anything can happen.
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Whole lot of great games happening tonight.
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Liquid has been on fire lately.
3-1 I think.
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i think if FXO has to end up relying on choya to stay in it, i think liquid will be able to take it. for example, liquid wins first 2, choya would have to win against sheth to get the ace match.
my predictions:
ret < lucky
zenio < gumiho
hero > tear
sheth > choya
Ace could go either way
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Lucky
Gumiho
Hero
then either choya wins and its 3-1 or sheth does and i think the ace match has to go in favour of FXO
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Ret - Lucky
Zenio - Gumiho
Hero - Tear
Sheth - Choya
only one I'm not sure about is Ret vs Lucky zvz can swing so freaking fast.
if it goes to ace
Sheth - Leenock
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Liquid takes this 3-1 IMO . . . if we're lucky, 4-0!
And poor Zenio, no one's giving him a chance against Gumi . . . I'll be the first to say that Zenio brings it home!
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Liquid's not winning lol. I think Sheth will beat Choya if they go that far.
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Ret > Lucky (unsure)
Zenio < GuMiho
HerO > Tear
Sheth > Choya
Unless Lucky can beat Ret, TL will probably win.
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After watching Gumiho's TvZ in his series vs DRG, I'd say the only sure bet in this thing is Zenio is going to die horribly. That said, I think TL has a good shot at this. It all really hinges on Ret vs. Lucky.
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Are these games casted from replays or live?
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no leenock
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Let's make some noise!!!
Let's go Liquid! 3-2!
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liquid so solid =)
and that was pretty funny to say
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Year of Liquid` ftw, they're guaranteed to advance if they win this game right?
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South Africa4316 Posts
Can anyone tell me what happened in that game? Not being able to stream sucks
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The look on Khaldor's face combined with the stream of absolute nonsense coming out of Gretorp's mouth is making this quite the cast.
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United States13896 Posts
On February 24 2012 11:16 Daigomi wrote:Can anyone tell me what happened in that game? Not being able to stream sucks
Ret massed lings, Lucky couldn't scout it, kept droning, and just got overwhelmed.
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If only i had my TL jersey by now...GO TL!!!!!!!!!!
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Liquid can take this.
Zenio will probably lose but HerO and Sheth can win.
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Ret's starsense won this game.
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Zenio doesn't have any good terrans to practice with...
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On February 24 2012 11:16 Daigomi wrote:Can anyone tell me what happened in that game? Not being able to stream sucks
roach > expand from lucky, ret goes speedling expo into banes, but scouts the roaches and responds by hiding 30ish lings in the back of his base, builds them up and attacks with a production cycle. lucky only has 3 roaches and two banes making, the banes land but ret has too many lings for lucky to hold, ww.
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On February 24 2012 11:21 JimmiC wrote:
Yeah, those OGS terrans are bad. oh wait they are amazing. I think he is ok for practice partners
oGs terrans been slumping. They are good but they haven't done much lately.
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so far, hellion expo from gumiho, elevatored 4 hellions and some marines into zenio's main, but that was shut down. 3rd and delayed mutas and 4th from zenio, 3rd from gumiho.
zenio drives a push back with banes.
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Gumiho has been supply blocked for so, so long and still hasn't noticed
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Gumiho was only supply blocked for like 3 minutes and floating 1400 minerals....
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zenio playing so well
liquid playing so well
im so fucking happy =)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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Liquid beasting! awww yeaaah
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brutal engagements by zenio
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4 oranges/red upgrades on the way for zenio =D
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gumiho tries to push as he takes a 4th, zenio maxed and taking a 5th, push get's demolished by ling/bane/muta most of the mutas survive, reinforcements cleaned up too, zenio looks in control of this.
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silly Zenio, didn't anyone tell you planetaries are invincible?
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gumiho is pretty good tho
korean terrans.
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gumiho delaying well with drops, but losing scvs to ling runbys
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broods coming up for zenio, but supplies much more level.
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terran is a pretty good race
pew pew pew pew
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Zenio is just throwing this game away, nothing to do with ghosts.
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Just tuned in, great to hear that Ret won.
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Holy crap... I wont talk about balance, but wow that stuff died REALLY quickly.
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While all the terrans on TL weep and moan, gumiho does the simple thing. Build more ghosts.
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Zenio threw this game away, unfortunately.
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United States5356 Posts
Yeah mass ghosts...
MMA style harassment working wonders for GuMiho
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Zenio really threw the game away when he sacked his entire army trying to kill that planetary :/
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This must be pre-patch, ghosts don't 1shot banelings any more
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i don't understand why he didn't build blords before. he had greater spire much before gumiho had ghosts.
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On February 24 2012 11:37 chestnutcc wrote:
While all the terrans on TL weep and moan, gumiho does the simple thing. Build more ghosts.
this is the old patch
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Jesus Ghosts are good lol
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On February 24 2012 11:37 chestnutcc wrote:
While all the terrans on TL weep and moan, gumiho does the simple thing. Build more ghosts.
Patch wasn't live in KR when this was played...(If it is even live there now...) This game just shows why something had to be done about it.....
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yeah, infestor count against 10 ghosts?
ya
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yeah.. ultras definitely weren't the right choice
Edit: and they definitely weren't better the second time...
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On February 24 2012 11:39 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 11:37 chestnutcc wrote:
While all the terrans on TL weep and moan, gumiho does the simple thing. Build more ghosts. Patch wasn't live in KR when this was played...(If it is even live there now...) This game just shows why something had to be done about it.....
still, not as drastic lol
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Gumiho's multitasking is ridiculous
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United States5356 Posts
Zenio literally has no tech...
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On February 24 2012 11:39 vndods wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 11:39 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On February 24 2012 11:37 chestnutcc wrote:
While all the terrans on TL weep and moan, gumiho does the simple thing. Build more ghosts. Patch wasn't live in KR when this was played...(If it is even live there now...) This game just shows why something had to be done about it..... still, not as drastic lol
lol yea they def went overboard with it xD but clearly something had to be changed!
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On February 24 2012 11:39 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 11:37 chestnutcc wrote:
While all the terrans on TL weep and moan, gumiho does the simple thing. Build more ghosts. Patch wasn't live in KR when this was played...(If it is even live there now...) This game just shows why something had to be done about it.....
No it doesn't wtf. Did you see how many armies Zenio threw away? Ghosts don't matter if you're going to keep throwing units at a planetary+tanks
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On February 24 2012 11:38 Gorlin wrote:
Zenio really threw the game away when he sacked his entire army trying to kill that planetary :/
he should know the only thing to do with a planetary is to wait till it mines the base out.
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On February 24 2012 11:40 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 11:39 vndods wrote:On February 24 2012 11:39 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On February 24 2012 11:37 chestnutcc wrote:
While all the terrans on TL weep and moan, gumiho does the simple thing. Build more ghosts. Patch wasn't live in KR when this was played...(If it is even live there now...) This game just shows why something had to be done about it..... still, not as drastic lol lol yea they def went overboard with it xD but clearly something had to be changed!
Blizzard: nerf ALL the things by 50%!!!!!
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What is the yellow goop on the map
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haha spartan marine in the narrow pass
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On February 24 2012 11:40 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 11:39 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On February 24 2012 11:37 chestnutcc wrote:
While all the terrans on TL weep and moan, gumiho does the simple thing. Build more ghosts. Patch wasn't live in KR when this was played...(If it is even live there now...) This game just shows why something had to be done about it..... No it doesn't wtf. Did you see how many armies Zenio threw away? Ghosts don't matter if you're going to keep throwing units at a planetary+tanks
He ran from the planetary... only suicided units when he needed supply for higher tech units... was 200 supply for Zenio vs like 150ish for Gumiho yet Gumiho crushed it with snipes.
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Yeh good case in point for some tweaking but damn zenio looked really good when I first tuned in.
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zenio can't go ultra/bl against that much ghosts
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United States5356 Posts
Zenio needs some of the best baneling hits in the history of SC2 to stay in this
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On February 24 2012 11:42 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 11:40 1Eris1 wrote:On February 24 2012 11:39 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On February 24 2012 11:37 chestnutcc wrote:
While all the terrans on TL weep and moan, gumiho does the simple thing. Build more ghosts. Patch wasn't live in KR when this was played...(If it is even live there now...) This game just shows why something had to be done about it..... No it doesn't wtf. Did you see how many armies Zenio threw away? Ghosts don't matter if you're going to keep throwing units at a planetary+tanks He ran from the planetary... only suicided units when he needed supply for higher tech units... was 200 supply for Zenio vs like 150ish for Gumiho yet Gumiho crushed it with snipes.
Um, no it wasn', and he engaged at an awful angle, plus he had no AoE whatsoever, so I don't see how he was going to beat the 80 marines in the army. They were what destroyed him, not the ghosts.
edit: and yeah he ran from the planetary, but not before engaging it and letting half his army die.
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arg, that was pretty close lol
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pew pew pew pew pew pew pew
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United States5356 Posts
Did gumhio really just make 60 marines in one production cycle? o.O
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That was so frustrating to watch
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On February 24 2012 11:46 ComusLoM wrote:That was so frustrating to watch
as a fellow zerg, yes nail-bitingly painful. but he had to get infestors
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On February 24 2012 11:45 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 11:42 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On February 24 2012 11:40 1Eris1 wrote:On February 24 2012 11:39 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On February 24 2012 11:37 chestnutcc wrote:
While all the terrans on TL weep and moan, gumiho does the simple thing. Build more ghosts. Patch wasn't live in KR when this was played...(If it is even live there now...) This game just shows why something had to be done about it..... No it doesn't wtf. Did you see how many armies Zenio threw away? Ghosts don't matter if you're going to keep throwing units at a planetary+tanks He ran from the planetary... only suicided units when he needed supply for higher tech units... was 200 supply for Zenio vs like 150ish for Gumiho yet Gumiho crushed it with snipes. Um, no it wasn', and he engaged at an awful angle, plus he had no AoE whatsoever, so I don't see how he was going to beat the 80 marines in the army. They were what destroyed him, not the ghosts.
Lol if you say so... Pretty sure I herd a lot of Pew Pew and ultras poppin.... but meh could be wrong, don't really care that much either way.
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What a weird game, Zenio's decision making always looks somewhat indecisive, not only in this game. Always moving back and forth and then deciding for ultras two times?
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Well, good try by Zenio. At least we can officially say that a game where Ghosts can snipe an entire Zerg army is a thing a past now due to the patch!
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On February 24 2012 11:50 SCST wrote:
Well, good try by Zenio. At least we can officially say that a game where Ghosts can snipe an entire Zerg army is a thing a past now due to the patch!
you just need twice as many ghosts as before, it's still possible
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On February 24 2012 11:52 Ruscour wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 11:50 SCST wrote:
Well, good try by Zenio. At least we can officially say that a game where Ghosts can snipe an entire Zerg army is a thing a past now due to the patch! you just need twice as many ghosts as before, it's still possible
that ghost heavy would be suicide against mass lings though xD
Blizz did to much with the nerf, but ghosts are kind of where they should be a support unit sniper for extra dps not just lol snipe and everything dies.
Back on topic Good try by Zenio Go Go Liquid :D
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On February 24 2012 11:52 Ruscour wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 11:50 SCST wrote:
Well, good try by Zenio. At least we can officially say that a game where Ghosts can snipe an entire Zerg army is a thing a past now due to the patch! you just need twice as many ghosts as before, it's still possible
Which makes it not that efficient as that would be 80 supply of just ghosts. Wouldn't recommend it 
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I can't understand Zenio... I was already celebrating the win, when he was 70 supply ahead, in anticipation of the ling/baneling/muta overrun and then... He decided to tech to Ultras and to let gumiho back in the game. When you are THAT ahead in a game I think the best thing is to stay on Lair tech... As Day9 says "JUST GO AND F*** KILL HIM!!!"
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United States5356 Posts
Well, hopefully we won't see 4gate...
Who the hell am I kidding, it's Tal'darim Altar -.-
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On February 24 2012 11:54 Whatson wrote:
Well, hopefully we won't see 4gate...
Do you want a player to throw the game?
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I think ghost should still be good vs BL but not ultras. Blizzard went too much with the nerf.
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the only way fast blink works on this map is if your opponent doesn't go for a balls 4gate and opens something like 3SR into 4gate, but even then the timing isn't off by much
both players doing the modern style of tons of sentries and hope your immortal is out in time
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United States5356 Posts
On February 24 2012 11:55 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 11:54 Whatson wrote:
Well, hopefully we won't see 4gate... Do you want a player to throw the game?
No, but I was really REALLY happy with the pylon nerf, since PvP seemed the least entertaining matchup for the longest time with almost exclusively 4gates. So I was hoping that this match wouldn't be like that...
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United States5356 Posts
4gate is still king in PvP TDA...
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nice job HerO!!! and the sentries were just gas dump... >.>
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On February 24 2012 11:57 Whatson wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 11:55 StarVe wrote:On February 24 2012 11:54 Whatson wrote:
Well, hopefully we won't see 4gate... Do you want a player to throw the game? No, but I was really REALLY happy with the pylon nerf, since PvP seemed the least entertaining matchup for the longest time with almost exclusively 4gates. So I was hoping that this match wouldn't be like that...
on that crappy map its only 4 gate or lose.....
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Meh. Tal'darim PvP, as always underwhelming.
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tear wins that if the probe didn't get in, forcing him to move away from the choke
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Good to see gretorp is still awkward as ever.
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17 drones at once x.x such a scary sight
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yeah,
liquid is on fucking fire.
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Sheth is in absolute BAWS mode at the moment! He's playing sooo well!
GG and really happy for TL!
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United States5356 Posts
That's why you go robo after stargate and not mass gateway
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THE YEAR OF LIQUID HUH!
Sheth so good!
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This has been popular lately for kr tosses, go stargate and not go colossi immediately and die to roach/hydra xD. Not sure why but I have noticed this lately is tosses are forgetting or not making colossi/templar and going pure gateway for awhile and dying to these roach/hydra attacks when taking a faster third. Wonder when they are going to start getting colossi again or templar at least so they dont' die to roach/hydra xD
Well played by sheth and so glad liquid won congratulations guys
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what server were these games played?
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Sheth pulls through again! Congrats Team Liquid!!! <3
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Amazing start to 2012 for Liquid!!!
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Sheth in baller mode right now.
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Wow. Despite some mechanical mistakes (3rd WAY over-saturated while main is short like 10+ drones), Sheth's just too good. ^_^
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Just as I predicted, though I was hoping Zenio would pull through! Good job TL
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wow sheth! top drawer stuff right there!
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On February 24 2012 12:14 ninjamyst wrote:
what server were these games played?
The last game was played on Korea, not sure about the other ones. (Guessing by Sheth's account name)
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And Liquid wins again xD. Well played all
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Hmm, I honestly think this cements Liquid back into a top 3 foreigner team. They were slumping for a bit, but they've really pulled it together. Would love to see them duke it out with Empire or Mouz (and funny enough they're facing each other right now)
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Top of the table woot :D
TSL next.
On February 24 2012 12:16 1Eris1 wrote:
Hmm, I honestly think this cements Liquid back into a top 3 foreigner team. They were slumping for a bit, but they've really pulled it together. Would love to see them duke it out with Empire or Mouz (and funny enough they're facing each other right now)
Beaten Empire and Mouz already. And I don't think Liquid was ever out of a top 2 foreigner team results-wise, and there's basically no contest for top 1 right now.
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On February 24 2012 12:11 Kznn wrote:
yeah,
liquid is on fucking fire.
team alcohol
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37030 Posts
LIQUID IS ON FIRE!!!!!!!!!
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Liquid!!!!!!!!!!!! It's like they are on Speed!!!!!!!!!!! Drug test them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Wow impressive games by TL well done and congrats
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Yay Liquid! but . . . . did NASTL stream just cross over with Catz stream?
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On February 24 2012 12:17 leandroqm wrote:team alcohol
Team absinth?
Anyway, on a more serious note: Why the hell did Choya go blink stalker after denying Sheths natural and thereby forcing him on max three gas _and_ showing his Phoenix... I really really don't understand that.. He was forcing Sheth down a techpath that just hardcountered everything he did, lol
Really weird game
Anyway, year of Liquid!
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On February 24 2012 12:13 blade55555 wrote:
This has been popular lately for kr tosses, go stargate and not go colossi immediately and die to roach/hydra xD. Not sure why but I have noticed this lately is tosses are forgetting or not making colossi/templar and going pure gateway for awhile and dying to these roach/hydra attacks when taking a faster third. Wonder when they are going to start getting colossi again or templar at least so they dont' die to roach/hydra xD
I guess it counters the more popular zerg response of skipping hydras and directly going corruptors to counter colossi, doesn't it?
I sometimes feel like to a certain extent ZvP comes down to which tech route players choose independently from each other. How can Sheth have been sure Choya didn't go for robo?
Wp though and gratz to TL.
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I love how TL is beasting through these team league matches...AWESOME!
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On February 24 2012 12:25 Antithesis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 12:13 blade55555 wrote:
This has been popular lately for kr tosses, go stargate and not go colossi immediately and die to roach/hydra xD. Not sure why but I have noticed this lately is tosses are forgetting or not making colossi/templar and going pure gateway for awhile and dying to these roach/hydra attacks when taking a faster third. Wonder when they are going to start getting colossi again or templar at least so they dont' die to roach/hydra xD I guess it counters the more popular zerg response of skipping hydras and directly going corruptors to counter colossi, doesn't it? I sometimes feel like to a certain extent ZvP comes down to which tech route players choose independently from each other. How can Sheth have been sure Choya didn't go for robo? Wp though and gratz to TL.
Well if you don't see hydras attacking your phoenixes, you can assume that he went spire anyways and then just make immortals.
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Man Ret and Sheth have been unstoppable lately.
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Ret & Sheth are the best EU & NA zergs in my opinion.
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Sheth is on an absolute tear! Holy crap!
Ret and HerO looking solid to poor Zenio had to against Gumiho - not a bad result for him i guess
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GJ TL! Ret and Sheth are totally beasting it recently. Not many teams (especially non-koren ones) can beat TL easily
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On February 24 2012 12:16 Talin wrote:
Top of the table woot :D
TSL next.
TSL is in this tournament?
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incredibly selfish of choya to have himself play these matches imo
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On February 24 2012 12:16 Talin wrote:Top of the table woot :D TSL next. Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 12:16 1Eris1 wrote:
Hmm, I honestly think this cements Liquid back into a top 3 foreigner team. They were slumping for a bit, but they've really pulled it together. Would love to see them duke it out with Empire or Mouz (and funny enough they're facing each other right now) Beaten Empire and Mouz already. And I don't think Liquid was ever out of a top 2 foreigner team results-wise, and there's basically no contest for top 1 right now.
The match against empire was close and empire didn't play one of their best players; I think it's closer than you think it is, especially since in teamleagues empire gets a small benefit of the doubt(in the last round of teamleagues empire did better than liquid)
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On February 24 2012 13:20 ninjamyst wrote:TSL is in this tournament?
No, but Liquid faces TSL next in IPL TAC. Congrats Liquid!
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On February 24 2012 12:54 Al Bundy wrote:
Ret & Sheth are the best EU & NA zergs in my opinion.
Stephano > Ret
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On February 24 2012 13:20 akalarry wrote:
incredibly selfish of choya to have himself play these matches imo
They're through anyway, why would he not play, maybe the other players didn't even want to. Yes, he's 1-3 now, but so far they always won the matches he played in anyway.
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On February 24 2012 13:41 Melange wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 12:54 Al Bundy wrote:
Ret & Sheth are the best EU & NA zergs in my opinion. Stephano > Ret
He said in his opinion...
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Grats TL, 3 - 1 it is, finaly a correct prediction.
2012 is starting off as a great year for Liquid hope we see so much more !
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On February 24 2012 13:43 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 13:20 akalarry wrote:
incredibly selfish of choya to have himself play these matches imo They're through anyway, why would he not play, maybe the other players didn't even want to. Yes, he's 1-3 now, but so far they always won the matches he played in anyway.
They play rock, paper, scissors to decide who gets to play, he's pretty good at that.
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WOW! TL winning so many team leagues lately
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well done TL!!!
Surprising!!! Ret and Sheht playing well lately!!
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On February 24 2012 19:40 Full.tilt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2012 13:43 StarVe wrote:On February 24 2012 13:20 akalarry wrote:
incredibly selfish of choya to have himself play these matches imo They're through anyway, why would he not play, maybe the other players didn't even want to. Yes, he's 1-3 now, but so far they always won the matches he played in anyway. They play rock, paper, scissors to decide who gets to play, he's pretty good at that.
Haha well played.
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On February 24 2012 19:54 Big-t wrote:WOW! TL winning so many team leagues lately
actually they didn't win anything yet and chances are not too good that they win one of them
korean teams in ipl tac2 and in NASTL there are still empire mouz and FXO again taht they have to beat and if FXO sends out their real lineup with leenock and oz they will most likely smash liquid
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2012 year of liquid, TLO is so right.
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