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hysterial
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2044 Posts
February 23 2012 09:47 GMT
#821
On February 23 2012 18:46 Oboeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 18:44 hysterial wrote:
On February 23 2012 18:43 JiYan wrote:
On February 23 2012 18:42 hysterial wrote:
On February 23 2012 18:41 avilo wrote:
Ok, he scouts the all-in, still dies.

....

On February 23 2012 18:41 thunddr wrote:
omg vr micro GODLIKE


He 1A'd to a bunker.


I agree, tbh, don't understand the hype over this one.

he pulled back his void rays really well and kept them alive during the entire fight is what hes talking about micro


I know that... But this isn't some ridiculous marine split or warp prism micro.. He just pulled back two red void rays....


Genius kept them alive, maintained their charge, and was able to use his ground units to stop alive from sniping them.

Fair enough I just feel that people who are impressed by that micro havn't tried to do this build themselves, its not terribly difficult.
NGrNecris
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand855 Posts
February 23 2012 09:47 GMT
#822
On February 23 2012 18:45 BuzZoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 18:44 NGrNecris wrote:
On February 23 2012 18:40 BuzZoo wrote:
On February 23 2012 18:36 NGrNecris wrote:
On February 23 2012 18:35 Lann555 wrote:
Anyone else losing interest in watching TvP's? Protoss either 2-base allins, or turtles into an unstoppable late-game army. Matchup seems so inferior to TvZ

TvP has been inferior to TvZ for as long as i can remember


I'm probably going to get flamed for this. But is it possible that the fact that MMM has traditionally been so effective meant that other options for terran have just gone unexplored?
I remember a brief period where a very thor-heavy army was a bit of a fad in Korean GM. Is mixing in some BC's or banshees in the ultra late game just silly bio being so light on gas?
Please don't abuse me because I'm just genuinely wondering. Many of the things that have had zergs such as myself QQing in the past have been fixed with metagame as much as patching.

I think part of it is what you say but i think the main reason is how bad mech is vs P. Also when thorzain won TSL with thors they got nerfed


Yeah fair enough. Strike cannon was too strong vs immortal right?

Yeah making strike cannon cost mana made thors feedback-able also
Engdrew
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States890 Posts
February 23 2012 09:47 GMT
#823
On February 23 2012 18:44 Crashburn wrote:
I don't know why I read TL live report threads. There's more bitching in this thread than my wife on all of her periods combined.



indeed. there's a lot of stereotypical hate on the TL.net threads

1. the BW supremacist who constantly hates on sc2 and its mechanics, gameplay, builds, etc.
2. the person who consistently misuses terms: cheese, bonjwa, all-in, etc.
3. the person who nitpicks every single mistake by players and even casters


the list goes on...

calm your beards TL. stay classy.
.
shineq
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1453 Posts
February 23 2012 09:47 GMT
#824
On February 23 2012 18:47 human_ko wrote:
why is everyone talking about queens?? what queens? its tvp now


The GSL "Learn Korean" thing was on and they showed the Queen.
"If you can chill, chill." - Liquid`NonY, "david some do it T>T" - SlayerSBoxeR || Twitter: http://twtter.com/shineqGAMING || http://twitch.tv/shineq
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
February 23 2012 09:47 GMT
#825
Really, game 2 is recommended? It seems like Tastosis can convince you guys to be entertained by anything. I wasn't aware pulling back void rays in red health still gave people nerd chills.
NasKe_
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil570 Posts
February 23 2012 09:47 GMT
#826
Genius going to the final he should have be back in early 2011
Liph
Profile Joined April 2011
United States151 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 09:48:18
February 23 2012 09:48 GMT
#827
Rapper born in Nigeria was not enough information as to his ethnicity guys.
"You Miss 100% of the Shots You Don't Take - Wayne Gretsky" Michael Gary Scott
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
February 23 2012 09:48 GMT
#828
On February 23 2012 18:43 Lunchador wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 18:42 MCDayC wrote:
What was the micro?


Pulling out 2/3 void rays with <10 HP. Their slow acceleration makes running away very hard to do.

their massive hp makes it easy. its not hard to micro something that has 250 hp and gets 3 dmg a shot. because it does take ages to kill it.
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
architecture
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States643 Posts
February 23 2012 09:48 GMT
#829
Late game TvP isn't that bad, we just aren't being shown intelligent demonstrations of it. You won't ever kill a P that has 3-4 bases running with bank in a straight up fight. You have to starve him out and deplete him.
tpfkan
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
February 23 2012 09:48 GMT
#830
On February 23 2012 18:46 justinpal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 18:45 Ruscour wrote:
On February 23 2012 18:44 Crashburn wrote:
I don't know why I read TL live report threads. There's more bitching in this thread than my wife on all of her periods combined.

your wife is either extremely young or the world's perfect woman if that's the case


Or constantly pregnant?

or suffering from some kind of deficiency that requires her tubes be tied
BuzZoo
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1468 Posts
February 23 2012 09:48 GMT
#831
On February 23 2012 18:46 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 18:44 NGrNecris wrote:
On February 23 2012 18:40 BuzZoo wrote:
On February 23 2012 18:36 NGrNecris wrote:
On February 23 2012 18:35 Lann555 wrote:
Anyone else losing interest in watching TvP's? Protoss either 2-base allins, or turtles into an unstoppable late-game army. Matchup seems so inferior to TvZ

TvP has been inferior to TvZ for as long as i can remember


I'm probably going to get flamed for this. But is it possible that the fact that MMM has traditionally been so effective meant that other options for terran have just gone unexplored?
I remember a brief period where a very thor-heavy army was a bit of a fad in Korean GM. Is mixing in some BC's or banshees in the ultra late game just silly bio being so light on gas?
Please don't abuse me because I'm just genuinely wondering. Many of the things that have had zergs such as myself QQing in the past have been fixed with metagame as much as patching.

I think part of it is what you say but i think the main reason is how bad mech is vs P. Also when thorzain won TSL with thors they got nerfed


Jinro came back from behind and destroyed a Protoss in the super late game in some tournament yesterday by mass nuking and going BCs to Yamato the Colossi. Was interesting to watch but not sure how viable it is if the Protoss is more prepared.


That's exactly the kind of stuff I was wondering about. I mean, it may very well be a gimmick that is easily beaten if it becomes more common. But we just don't know...
FlyingDike
Profile Joined December 2011
United States221 Posts
February 23 2012 09:48 GMT
#832
On February 23 2012 18:46 Yaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 18:44 blade55555 wrote:
On February 23 2012 18:44 zazone wrote:
MVP GSL finals?how is Genius PvZ ?


He 2-0'd drg in ro32 I believe?

Genius is a god in every matchup right now it seems. (even though he's not been tested as much in PvP as in the other 2 matc hups lately)

Don't use Flash's name in vain.
Kharnage
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia920 Posts
February 23 2012 09:48 GMT
#833
On February 23 2012 18:47 aebriol wrote:
I see you guys just look at it as 'pulling back when injured' that is so untrue.

He constantly targeted the right things - depot, bunkers, the correct units, with all his units. He had perfect stalker control to avoid losing them to high ground units. He pulled back all 3 void rays just in time, and kept his charge alive by for just one split second attacking - then stopping - his own zealot that was about to die, he warped in the right units when needed it, he correctly stopped at 3 void rays, he correctly got sentries when he needed to break the front bunker, his forcefields split the units and the ramp perfectly.

That was overall just ... fucking genius.

I might have missed something, I am a zerg player ...


I'm a protoss player and you're exactly fucking right. I'm stunned.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37055 Posts
February 23 2012 09:48 GMT
#834
Anyone remember what mothership was?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
February 23 2012 09:48 GMT
#835
On February 23 2012 18:43 thunddr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 18:42 hysterial wrote:
On February 23 2012 18:41 avilo wrote:
Ok, he scouts the all-in, still dies.

....

On February 23 2012 18:41 thunddr wrote:
omg vr micro GODLIKE


He 1A'd to a bunker.


I agree, tbh, don't understand the hype over this one.


don't hate. its just hype

Ideally, VRs should take damage and never die. Go on, try to hold three VRs charged up with the weak ones taking no further damage and recharging their shields during the whole attack.
Indeed early-game micro revolves around moving units around, omg so ez Protoss/Terran/Zerg just a-move etc. etc, but Genius executed it very very well.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5256 Posts
February 23 2012 09:48 GMT
#836
amazing play.... genius vs. DRG pls make it come true!!
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
beamingrobot
Profile Joined October 2010
United States685 Posts
February 23 2012 09:48 GMT
#837
On February 23 2012 18:47 Inflicted_ wrote:
Would getting Stim instead of Combat Shield be better in that situation? Since taking out the voids quickly should be the main goal of the Terran...


Nope. You'll need more HP, stim can do the reverse for your rines, esp with other toss ground units nearby.
Sareth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1008 Posts
February 23 2012 09:48 GMT
#838
On February 23 2012 18:44 zazone wrote:
MVP GSL finals?how is Genius PvZ ?

He already won vs DRG in this GSL, didnt he?
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
February 23 2012 09:48 GMT
#839
Even the preview graphic thinks Alive is fucked.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
February 23 2012 09:48 GMT
#840
On February 23 2012 18:44 blackberry_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 18:41 avilo wrote:
Ok, he scouts the all-in, still dies.

....

On February 23 2012 18:41 thunddr wrote:
omg vr micro GODLIKE


He 1A'd to a bunker.

With his micro he was able to save two of his void rays. That granted him the win. You seem to imply Toss OP or something. Genius played really well.

Pulling damaged unit back is like the most basic of basic micro skills. Why was that amazing? It wasn't anything like a marine split or anything like that
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