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architecture
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States643 Posts
February 23 2012 09:46 GMT
#801
holding low ground is not a reasonable option because of FF.

VR can force army split into main base, and then FF ramp
tpfkan
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
February 23 2012 09:46 GMT
#802
On February 23 2012 18:44 NGrNecris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 18:40 BuzZoo wrote:
On February 23 2012 18:36 NGrNecris wrote:
On February 23 2012 18:35 Lann555 wrote:
Anyone else losing interest in watching TvP's? Protoss either 2-base allins, or turtles into an unstoppable late-game army. Matchup seems so inferior to TvZ

TvP has been inferior to TvZ for as long as i can remember


I'm probably going to get flamed for this. But is it possible that the fact that MMM has traditionally been so effective meant that other options for terran have just gone unexplored?
I remember a brief period where a very thor-heavy army was a bit of a fad in Korean GM. Is mixing in some BC's or banshees in the ultra late game just silly bio being so light on gas?
Please don't abuse me because I'm just genuinely wondering. Many of the things that have had zergs such as myself QQing in the past have been fixed with metagame as much as patching.

I think part of it is what you say but i think the main reason is how bad mech is vs P. Also when thorzain won TSL with thors they got nerfed


Jinro came back from behind and destroyed a Protoss in the super late game in some tournament yesterday by mass nuking and going BCs to Yamato the Colossi. Was interesting to watch but not sure how viable it is if the Protoss is more prepared.
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
February 23 2012 09:46 GMT
#803
On February 23 2012 18:44 hysterial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 18:43 JiYan wrote:
On February 23 2012 18:42 hysterial wrote:
On February 23 2012 18:41 avilo wrote:
Ok, he scouts the all-in, still dies.

....

On February 23 2012 18:41 thunddr wrote:
omg vr micro GODLIKE


He 1A'd to a bunker.


I agree, tbh, don't understand the hype over this one.

he pulled back his void rays really well and kept them alive during the entire fight is what hes talking about micro


I know that... But this isn't some ridiculous marine split or warp prism micro.. He just pulled back two red void rays....


Genius kept them alive, maintained their charge, and was able to use his ground units to stop alive from sniping them.
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
February 23 2012 09:46 GMT
#804
LOL that english transliteration is so awful

I would say it is more like

yo - uang

the first one is really just "yo" with an accent,

but the second part has a silent letter then a "oh" and "ah" right next to each other so it becomes "ohah" or "uah" and then the circle on the bottom means the "-ng" sound
~~! youtube.com/xmungam1 !~~
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
February 23 2012 09:46 GMT
#805
Wow, looks like Genius might take this easily.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
colate
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway121 Posts
February 23 2012 09:46 GMT
#806
On February 23 2012 18:45 AsnSensation wrote:
love how the first line is: He's a black british rapper


My thoughts exactly! They should have exluded that. Since they stated he was born in Nigeria
Poisonblack
Profile Joined May 2011
452 Posts
February 23 2012 09:46 GMT
#807
On February 23 2012 18:42 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 18:41 Fionn wrote:
On February 23 2012 18:41 avilo wrote:
Ok, he scouts the all-in, still dies.

....


Genius' micro was perfect. Literally perfect.

you should not be able to win with cheese if its revealed so early

fuck you genius, now other protoss on ladder start doing it more and i get lots of freelosses.

free wins more like, only Genius can still win with this after its scouted.

so if you do your job and scout it then you insta win, unless you're playing Genius in which case I feel sorry for you
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
February 23 2012 09:46 GMT
#808
On February 23 2012 18:45 Ruscour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 18:44 Crashburn wrote:
I don't know why I read TL live report threads. There's more bitching in this thread than my wife on all of her periods combined.

your wife is either extremely young or the world's perfect woman if that's the case


Or constantly pregnant?
Never make a hydralisk.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
February 23 2012 09:46 GMT
#809
Ugh, I just woke up. I need to watch that game again ~_~

Anyways, Alive needs to pull a miracle out now. Only three times has a player come back from a 0-2 deficit in the, what, thirteen seasons of the GSL.

MarineKing 3-2 over MC
MMA 3-2 over MarineKing
Byun 3-2 over Bomber

Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
February 23 2012 09:47 GMT
#810
I asked before, but does anyone have a collection of the learn Korean we've seen so far? I only have marine, marauder, and now queen....
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
secretary bird
Profile Joined September 2011
447 Posts
February 23 2012 09:47 GMT
#811
On February 23 2012 18:44 BuzZoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 18:42 secretary bird wrote:
On February 23 2012 18:40 BuzZoo wrote:
On February 23 2012 18:36 NGrNecris wrote:
On February 23 2012 18:35 Lann555 wrote:
Anyone else losing interest in watching TvP's? Protoss either 2-base allins, or turtles into an unstoppable late-game army. Matchup seems so inferior to TvZ

TvP has been inferior to TvZ for as long as i can remember


I'm probably going to get flamed for this. But is it possible that the fact that MMM has traditionally been so effective meant that other options for terran have just gone unexplored?
I remember a brief period where a very thor-heavy army was a bit of a fad in Korean GM. Is mixing in some BC's or banshees in the ultra late game just silly bio being so light on gas?
Please don't abuse me because I'm just genuinely wondering. Many of the things that have had zergs such as myself QQing in the past have been fixed with metagame as much as patching.


Nope not possible at all everything has been explored and doesnt work except as a 1-2 base allin.


I find that very surprising when things were/are being discovered in BW many years after the game was thought to be figured out.


Different times we didnt have progamers or a huge competititve scene back then.
human_ko
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation676 Posts
February 23 2012 09:47 GMT
#812
why is everyone talking about queens?? what queens? its tvp now
WOrd, yo.
architecture
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States643 Posts
February 23 2012 09:47 GMT
#813
Not that hard when you have GS + FF on a 250 HP unit
tpfkan
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
February 23 2012 09:47 GMT
#814
On February 23 2012 18:45 Zdrastochye wrote:
OH MY GOD, GENIUS DIDN'T 1A HIS VRS INTO MARINES, wow, that's just mind-blowing micro.

...


/sarcasm

Marine splits are more entertaining then that, and they're hardly that well-received.

MKP did almost perfect marine splits in November 2010. It's old now :p
The legend of Darien lives on
Contagious
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States1319 Posts
February 23 2012 09:47 GMT
#815
Damnit. I was going to go to Gom studios tonight to watch, but something came up so now I have to settle for watching stream. :-( GO GENIUS / DRG
aebriol
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway2066 Posts
February 23 2012 09:47 GMT
#816
I see you guys just look at it as 'pulling back when injured' that is so untrue.

He constantly targeted the right things - depot, bunkers, the correct units, with all his units. He had perfect stalker control to avoid losing them to high ground units. He pulled back all 3 void rays just in time, and kept his charge alive by for just one split second attacking - then stopping - his own zealot that was about to die, he warped in the right units when needed it, he correctly stopped at 3 void rays, he correctly got sentries when he needed to break the front bunker, his forcefields split the units and the ramp perfectly.

That was overall just ... fucking genius.

I might have missed something, I am a zerg player ...
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
February 23 2012 09:47 GMT
#817
Would getting Stim instead of Combat Shield be better in that situation? Since taking out the voids quickly should be the main goal of the Terran...
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Kharnage
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia920 Posts
February 23 2012 09:47 GMT
#818
That was insane. Genius should have been dead. He was dead. If anyone saw that game up tot he point where alive's high ground bunker finishes they would have said "Nope, terran wins this".

Jaw droppingly good play.
TrickyGilligan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States641 Posts
February 23 2012 09:47 GMT
#819
On February 23 2012 18:44 architecture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 18:43 Fionn wrote:
On February 23 2012 18:42 teddyoojo wrote:
On February 23 2012 18:41 Fionn wrote:
On February 23 2012 18:41 avilo wrote:
Ok, he scouts the all-in, still dies.

....


Genius' micro was perfect. Literally perfect.

you should not be able to win with cheese if its revealed so early

fuck you genius, now other protoss on ladder start doing it more and i get lots of freelosses.


The scout was pretty late, actually. The first void ray was already about to come out. Alive fucked up by not seeing the second gas.


You are completely wrong. 2nd gas doesn't reveal anything. Only the expansion/lack of expansion timing does.


You have no idea what you're talking about. 2nd gas = some kind of 1 base play instead of a 1 gate FE which is standard on that map.
"I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it." -Groucho Marx
Lunchador
Profile Joined April 2010
United States776 Posts
February 23 2012 09:47 GMT
#820
On February 23 2012 18:44 zazone wrote:
MVP GSL finals?how is Genius PvZ ?


Beat the crap outta DRG in the Ro32. Genius has this GSL! =)
Defender of truth, justice, and noontime meals!
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