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Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
February 16 2012 22:05 GMT
#2181
On February 17 2012 06:56 HQuality wrote:
by the way

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ezpz


You are the 1%

Occupy HQuality
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
February 16 2012 22:10 GMT
#2182
On February 16 2012 07:16 Bagi wrote:
Hoping Genius and DRG can advance.

MVP fighting!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
February 16 2012 23:02 GMT
#2183
On February 17 2012 05:36 Gexs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 00:00 PrinceXizor wrote:
On February 16 2012 23:55 GodOfWar wrote:
On February 16 2012 23:49 PrinceXizor wrote:
mmmmmmmm love it when undeserving protoss players lose in embarrassing fashion. MC you made my day.


MC isn't in the top 4 players of the world, let alone the top protoss player. getting wrecked in your best matchup by one of the two overall strong protoss players in the world.


well you know thats bullshit

www.sc2earnings.com

MC is still the number 1 successful Toss, and Genius might very likely go down next round.


congrats, he won an Open season, that automatically will put him near the top of the earnings. he's still no where near the top nowadays when it matters.

I put MC as the 5th best protoss

Genius
Creator
Parting
Treme
MC

MC is super overrated though.

Treme is only there by taking a hype train, and his brilliant GSTL play right now.


An idiot at his finest. Your list should be like this:

MC
Oz
PartinG
Puzzle
HerO


While his is definitely odd yours is still peculiar. Here's what I think

1st: Genius
2nd: PartinG
Joint 3rd: Oz/Puzzle (both are quite inconsistent though)
5th: MC

No doubt that MC is good but I looked at his play and just seen him beat people with some all ins, it never really looked solid(Genius was able to exploit this weakness)
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
GodOfWar
Profile Joined December 2011
870 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 23:09:22
February 16 2012 23:06 GMT
#2184
On February 17 2012 06:38 Sajaki wrote:
Oh man i want aLive to win this!!

aLive vs DRG finals!!!~~


dont worry, he will punish all the Non believers, and grab that crucial first major title, to start the turnpoint in his career straight into a dominating 2012. killing not only GSL, but ASUS RoG and NASL as well.
Mvp Moon Squirtle
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
February 16 2012 23:08 GMT
#2185
On February 17 2012 08:02 NexUmbra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 05:36 Gexs wrote:
On February 17 2012 00:00 PrinceXizor wrote:
On February 16 2012 23:55 GodOfWar wrote:
On February 16 2012 23:49 PrinceXizor wrote:
mmmmmmmm love it when undeserving protoss players lose in embarrassing fashion. MC you made my day.


MC isn't in the top 4 players of the world, let alone the top protoss player. getting wrecked in your best matchup by one of the two overall strong protoss players in the world.


well you know thats bullshit

www.sc2earnings.com

MC is still the number 1 successful Toss, and Genius might very likely go down next round.


congrats, he won an Open season, that automatically will put him near the top of the earnings. he's still no where near the top nowadays when it matters.

I put MC as the 5th best protoss

Genius
Creator
Parting
Treme
MC

MC is super overrated though.

Treme is only there by taking a hype train, and his brilliant GSTL play right now.


An idiot at his finest. Your list should be like this:

MC
Oz
PartinG
Puzzle
HerO


While his is definitely odd yours is still peculiar. Here's what I think

1st: Genius
2nd: PartinG
Joint 3rd: Oz/Puzzle (both are quite inconsistent though)
5th: MC

No doubt that MC is good but I looked at his play and just seen him beat people with some all ins, it never really looked solid(Genius was able to exploit this weakness)



I don't get this last one. MC didn't all-in at all in the whole series, except when he was 4gate first. His loss had nothing to do with his "all-inish" style of play. Genius just outplayed him, from what the LR thread, Fionn and Wax said.

People have been saying his style of play will get figured out since Open Season 3 and GSL regular season 1. Now we are here, nearly a year later, and he still gets into the Ro8 in dominating fashion. (And then loses in dominating fashion...)
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
February 16 2012 23:15 GMT
#2186
On February 17 2012 05:36 Gexs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 00:00 PrinceXizor wrote:
On February 16 2012 23:55 GodOfWar wrote:
On February 16 2012 23:49 PrinceXizor wrote:
mmmmmmmm love it when undeserving protoss players lose in embarrassing fashion. MC you made my day.


MC isn't in the top 4 players of the world, let alone the top protoss player. getting wrecked in your best matchup by one of the two overall strong protoss players in the world.


well you know thats bullshit

www.sc2earnings.com

MC is still the number 1 successful Toss, and Genius might very likely go down next round.


congrats, he won an Open season, that automatically will put him near the top of the earnings. he's still no where near the top nowadays when it matters.

I put MC as the 5th best protoss

Genius
Creator
Parting
Treme
MC

MC is super overrated though.

Treme is only there by taking a hype train, and his brilliant GSTL play right now.


An idiot at his finest. Your list should be like this:

MC
Oz
PartinG
Puzzle
HerO


Couldn't agree more.

That guy is basically saying "given the past five minutes of starcraft I've seen, and knowing absolutely nothing else about the scene, here's what I think the top protoss are."
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
February 16 2012 23:26 GMT
#2187
On February 17 2012 08:08 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 08:02 NexUmbra wrote:
On February 17 2012 05:36 Gexs wrote:
On February 17 2012 00:00 PrinceXizor wrote:
On February 16 2012 23:55 GodOfWar wrote:
On February 16 2012 23:49 PrinceXizor wrote:
mmmmmmmm love it when undeserving protoss players lose in embarrassing fashion. MC you made my day.


MC isn't in the top 4 players of the world, let alone the top protoss player. getting wrecked in your best matchup by one of the two overall strong protoss players in the world.


well you know thats bullshit

www.sc2earnings.com

MC is still the number 1 successful Toss, and Genius might very likely go down next round.


congrats, he won an Open season, that automatically will put him near the top of the earnings. he's still no where near the top nowadays when it matters.

I put MC as the 5th best protoss

Genius
Creator
Parting
Treme
MC

MC is super overrated though.

Treme is only there by taking a hype train, and his brilliant GSTL play right now.


An idiot at his finest. Your list should be like this:

MC
Oz
PartinG
Puzzle
HerO


While his is definitely odd yours is still peculiar. Here's what I think

1st: Genius
2nd: PartinG
Joint 3rd: Oz/Puzzle (both are quite inconsistent though)
5th: MC

No doubt that MC is good but I looked at his play and just seen him beat people with some all ins, it never really looked solid(Genius was able to exploit this weakness)



I don't get this last one. MC didn't all-in at all in the whole series, except when he was 4gate first. His loss had nothing to do with his "all-inish" style of play. Genius just outplayed him, from what the LR thread, Fionn and Wax said.

People have been saying his style of play will get figured out since Open Season 3 and GSL regular season 1. Now we are here, nearly a year later, and he still gets into the Ro8 in dominating fashion. (And then loses in dominating fashion...)


I kind of phrased that poorly, I meant what Tastosis said during the game on Dual Sight, what Genius showed MC looked like 3 gate pressure so MC warped in 2 stalkers instead of 2 sentries. It's things like that which are not completely safe that MC often does which(at least in that game)

Also in the game on Cloud Kingdom he got really gutsy and blinked forward into colossus, clumping them all up right in front of genius so that he could micro back into his base.
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
February 16 2012 23:38 GMT
#2188
On February 17 2012 08:26 NexUmbra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 08:08 SeaSwift wrote:
On February 17 2012 08:02 NexUmbra wrote:
On February 17 2012 05:36 Gexs wrote:
On February 17 2012 00:00 PrinceXizor wrote:
On February 16 2012 23:55 GodOfWar wrote:
On February 16 2012 23:49 PrinceXizor wrote:
mmmmmmmm love it when undeserving protoss players lose in embarrassing fashion. MC you made my day.


MC isn't in the top 4 players of the world, let alone the top protoss player. getting wrecked in your best matchup by one of the two overall strong protoss players in the world.


well you know thats bullshit

www.sc2earnings.com

MC is still the number 1 successful Toss, and Genius might very likely go down next round.


congrats, he won an Open season, that automatically will put him near the top of the earnings. he's still no where near the top nowadays when it matters.

I put MC as the 5th best protoss

Genius
Creator
Parting
Treme
MC

MC is super overrated though.

Treme is only there by taking a hype train, and his brilliant GSTL play right now.


An idiot at his finest. Your list should be like this:

MC
Oz
PartinG
Puzzle
HerO


While his is definitely odd yours is still peculiar. Here's what I think

1st: Genius
2nd: PartinG
Joint 3rd: Oz/Puzzle (both are quite inconsistent though)
5th: MC

No doubt that MC is good but I looked at his play and just seen him beat people with some all ins, it never really looked solid(Genius was able to exploit this weakness)



I don't get this last one. MC didn't all-in at all in the whole series, except when he was 4gate first. His loss had nothing to do with his "all-inish" style of play. Genius just outplayed him, from what the LR thread, Fionn and Wax said.

People have been saying his style of play will get figured out since Open Season 3 and GSL regular season 1. Now we are here, nearly a year later, and he still gets into the Ro8 in dominating fashion. (And then loses in dominating fashion...)


I kind of phrased that poorly, I meant what Tastosis said during the game on Dual Sight, what Genius showed MC looked like 3 gate pressure so MC warped in 2 stalkers instead of 2 sentries. It's things like that which are not completely safe that MC often does which(at least in that game)

Also in the game on Cloud Kingdom he got really gutsy and blinked forward into colossus, clumping them all up right in front of genius so that he could micro back into his base.


Hmmm. I can see people thinking MC plays to risky in other matchups (especially PvT), but not in PvP. Of course, I didn't get to watch the games - and still can't because I'm too near my bandwidth max - but there really isn't a non-risky way to play PvP. I can't answer to the specific occasion you are talking about because, again, I didn't see the games T_T

As far as in general MC playing risky, I can say that something people overlook regularly is that he is nowadays really economically safe. When does he ever go for an "economic cheese" a la Parting, going 3 Nexus off few gates? More to the point, outside of PvP (lolPvP) when does MC ever die to an early rush? Think about the last time a 2rax or Roach timing worked against MC. It was months ago, AFAIK, and I watch almost all of MC's games (avid fanboy here). He dropped out of Code S in 2011 because he was vulnerable to cheese. Since then, he always goes for an ultra-safe 1gate expand in PvT, or an FFE in PvZ if he can get away with it, then if he does progress to a macro game he does it carefully.

In fact, as far as comparing Parting to MC is concerned, I consider Parting more "cheesy" (using the term loosely) than MC. In PvT, Parting takes massive risks to get a strong economy and get to the lategame, where Protoss is ridiculously powerful at the moment.
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
February 16 2012 23:45 GMT
#2189
On February 17 2012 08:38 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 08:26 NexUmbra wrote:
On February 17 2012 08:08 SeaSwift wrote:
On February 17 2012 08:02 NexUmbra wrote:
On February 17 2012 05:36 Gexs wrote:
On February 17 2012 00:00 PrinceXizor wrote:
On February 16 2012 23:55 GodOfWar wrote:
On February 16 2012 23:49 PrinceXizor wrote:
mmmmmmmm love it when undeserving protoss players lose in embarrassing fashion. MC you made my day.


MC isn't in the top 4 players of the world, let alone the top protoss player. getting wrecked in your best matchup by one of the two overall strong protoss players in the world.


well you know thats bullshit

www.sc2earnings.com

MC is still the number 1 successful Toss, and Genius might very likely go down next round.


congrats, he won an Open season, that automatically will put him near the top of the earnings. he's still no where near the top nowadays when it matters.

I put MC as the 5th best protoss

Genius
Creator
Parting
Treme
MC

MC is super overrated though.

Treme is only there by taking a hype train, and his brilliant GSTL play right now.


An idiot at his finest. Your list should be like this:

MC
Oz
PartinG
Puzzle
HerO


While his is definitely odd yours is still peculiar. Here's what I think

1st: Genius
2nd: PartinG
Joint 3rd: Oz/Puzzle (both are quite inconsistent though)
5th: MC

No doubt that MC is good but I looked at his play and just seen him beat people with some all ins, it never really looked solid(Genius was able to exploit this weakness)



I don't get this last one. MC didn't all-in at all in the whole series, except when he was 4gate first. His loss had nothing to do with his "all-inish" style of play. Genius just outplayed him, from what the LR thread, Fionn and Wax said.

People have been saying his style of play will get figured out since Open Season 3 and GSL regular season 1. Now we are here, nearly a year later, and he still gets into the Ro8 in dominating fashion. (And then loses in dominating fashion...)


I kind of phrased that poorly, I meant what Tastosis said during the game on Dual Sight, what Genius showed MC looked like 3 gate pressure so MC warped in 2 stalkers instead of 2 sentries. It's things like that which are not completely safe that MC often does which(at least in that game)

Also in the game on Cloud Kingdom he got really gutsy and blinked forward into colossus, clumping them all up right in front of genius so that he could micro back into his base.


Hmmm. I can see people thinking MC plays to risky in other matchups (especially PvT), but not in PvP. Of course, I didn't get to watch the games - and still can't because I'm too near my bandwidth max - but there really isn't a non-risky way to play PvP. I can't answer to the specific occasion you are talking about because, again, I didn't see the games T_T

As far as in general MC playing risky, I can say that something people overlook regularly is that he is nowadays really economically safe. When does he ever go for an "economic cheese" a la Parting, going 3 Nexus off few gates? More to the point, outside of PvP (lolPvP) when does MC ever die to an early rush? Think about the last time a 2rax or Roach timing worked against MC. It was months ago, AFAIK, and I watch almost all of MC's games (avid fanboy here). He dropped out of Code S in 2011 because he was vulnerable to cheese. Since then, he always goes for an ultra-safe 1gate expand in PvT, or an FFE in PvZ if he can get away with it, then if he does progress to a macro game he does it carefully.

In fact, as far as comparing Parting to MC is concerned, I consider Parting more "cheesy" (using the term loosely) than MC. In PvT, Parting takes massive risks to get a strong economy and get to the lategame, where Protoss is ridiculously powerful at the moment.


Do you still live in Scotland cause I didn't think ISP's here had bandwidth caps!

I suppose you're right but I guess that being a fan(or anti-fan in my case ;p) of a player will tip what you think about a player in a way.

Also not seeing the games doesn't exactly help XD
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
February 16 2012 23:46 GMT
#2190
On February 17 2012 08:45 NexUmbra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 08:38 SeaSwift wrote:
On February 17 2012 08:26 NexUmbra wrote:
On February 17 2012 08:08 SeaSwift wrote:
On February 17 2012 08:02 NexUmbra wrote:
On February 17 2012 05:36 Gexs wrote:
On February 17 2012 00:00 PrinceXizor wrote:
On February 16 2012 23:55 GodOfWar wrote:
On February 16 2012 23:49 PrinceXizor wrote:
mmmmmmmm love it when undeserving protoss players lose in embarrassing fashion. MC you made my day.


MC isn't in the top 4 players of the world, let alone the top protoss player. getting wrecked in your best matchup by one of the two overall strong protoss players in the world.


well you know thats bullshit

www.sc2earnings.com

MC is still the number 1 successful Toss, and Genius might very likely go down next round.


congrats, he won an Open season, that automatically will put him near the top of the earnings. he's still no where near the top nowadays when it matters.

I put MC as the 5th best protoss

Genius
Creator
Parting
Treme
MC

MC is super overrated though.

Treme is only there by taking a hype train, and his brilliant GSTL play right now.


An idiot at his finest. Your list should be like this:

MC
Oz
PartinG
Puzzle
HerO


While his is definitely odd yours is still peculiar. Here's what I think

1st: Genius
2nd: PartinG
Joint 3rd: Oz/Puzzle (both are quite inconsistent though)
5th: MC

No doubt that MC is good but I looked at his play and just seen him beat people with some all ins, it never really looked solid(Genius was able to exploit this weakness)



I don't get this last one. MC didn't all-in at all in the whole series, except when he was 4gate first. His loss had nothing to do with his "all-inish" style of play. Genius just outplayed him, from what the LR thread, Fionn and Wax said.

People have been saying his style of play will get figured out since Open Season 3 and GSL regular season 1. Now we are here, nearly a year later, and he still gets into the Ro8 in dominating fashion. (And then loses in dominating fashion...)


I kind of phrased that poorly, I meant what Tastosis said during the game on Dual Sight, what Genius showed MC looked like 3 gate pressure so MC warped in 2 stalkers instead of 2 sentries. It's things like that which are not completely safe that MC often does which(at least in that game)

Also in the game on Cloud Kingdom he got really gutsy and blinked forward into colossus, clumping them all up right in front of genius so that he could micro back into his base.


Hmmm. I can see people thinking MC plays to risky in other matchups (especially PvT), but not in PvP. Of course, I didn't get to watch the games - and still can't because I'm too near my bandwidth max - but there really isn't a non-risky way to play PvP. I can't answer to the specific occasion you are talking about because, again, I didn't see the games T_T

As far as in general MC playing risky, I can say that something people overlook regularly is that he is nowadays really economically safe. When does he ever go for an "economic cheese" a la Parting, going 3 Nexus off few gates? More to the point, outside of PvP (lolPvP) when does MC ever die to an early rush? Think about the last time a 2rax or Roach timing worked against MC. It was months ago, AFAIK, and I watch almost all of MC's games (avid fanboy here). He dropped out of Code S in 2011 because he was vulnerable to cheese. Since then, he always goes for an ultra-safe 1gate expand in PvT, or an FFE in PvZ if he can get away with it, then if he does progress to a macro game he does it carefully.

In fact, as far as comparing Parting to MC is concerned, I consider Parting more "cheesy" (using the term loosely) than MC. In PvT, Parting takes massive risks to get a strong economy and get to the lategame, where Protoss is ridiculously powerful at the moment.


Do you still live in Scotland cause I didn't think ISP's here had bandwidth caps!

I suppose you're right but I guess that being a fan(or anti-fan in my case ;p) of a player will tip what you think about a player in a way.

Also not seeing the games doesn't exactly help XD

I live in Scotland and I have a bandwidth cap. Only 20gb a month too...ridiculous
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
February 16 2012 23:50 GMT
#2191
On February 17 2012 08:46 Talionis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 08:45 NexUmbra wrote:
On February 17 2012 08:38 SeaSwift wrote:
On February 17 2012 08:26 NexUmbra wrote:
On February 17 2012 08:08 SeaSwift wrote:
On February 17 2012 08:02 NexUmbra wrote:
On February 17 2012 05:36 Gexs wrote:
On February 17 2012 00:00 PrinceXizor wrote:
On February 16 2012 23:55 GodOfWar wrote:
On February 16 2012 23:49 PrinceXizor wrote:
mmmmmmmm love it when undeserving protoss players lose in embarrassing fashion. MC you made my day.


MC isn't in the top 4 players of the world, let alone the top protoss player. getting wrecked in your best matchup by one of the two overall strong protoss players in the world.


well you know thats bullshit

www.sc2earnings.com

MC is still the number 1 successful Toss, and Genius might very likely go down next round.


congrats, he won an Open season, that automatically will put him near the top of the earnings. he's still no where near the top nowadays when it matters.

I put MC as the 5th best protoss

Genius
Creator
Parting
Treme
MC

MC is super overrated though.

Treme is only there by taking a hype train, and his brilliant GSTL play right now.


An idiot at his finest. Your list should be like this:

MC
Oz
PartinG
Puzzle
HerO


While his is definitely odd yours is still peculiar. Here's what I think

1st: Genius
2nd: PartinG
Joint 3rd: Oz/Puzzle (both are quite inconsistent though)
5th: MC

No doubt that MC is good but I looked at his play and just seen him beat people with some all ins, it never really looked solid(Genius was able to exploit this weakness)



I don't get this last one. MC didn't all-in at all in the whole series, except when he was 4gate first. His loss had nothing to do with his "all-inish" style of play. Genius just outplayed him, from what the LR thread, Fionn and Wax said.

People have been saying his style of play will get figured out since Open Season 3 and GSL regular season 1. Now we are here, nearly a year later, and he still gets into the Ro8 in dominating fashion. (And then loses in dominating fashion...)


I kind of phrased that poorly, I meant what Tastosis said during the game on Dual Sight, what Genius showed MC looked like 3 gate pressure so MC warped in 2 stalkers instead of 2 sentries. It's things like that which are not completely safe that MC often does which(at least in that game)

Also in the game on Cloud Kingdom he got really gutsy and blinked forward into colossus, clumping them all up right in front of genius so that he could micro back into his base.


Hmmm. I can see people thinking MC plays to risky in other matchups (especially PvT), but not in PvP. Of course, I didn't get to watch the games - and still can't because I'm too near my bandwidth max - but there really isn't a non-risky way to play PvP. I can't answer to the specific occasion you are talking about because, again, I didn't see the games T_T

As far as in general MC playing risky, I can say that something people overlook regularly is that he is nowadays really economically safe. When does he ever go for an "economic cheese" a la Parting, going 3 Nexus off few gates? More to the point, outside of PvP (lolPvP) when does MC ever die to an early rush? Think about the last time a 2rax or Roach timing worked against MC. It was months ago, AFAIK, and I watch almost all of MC's games (avid fanboy here). He dropped out of Code S in 2011 because he was vulnerable to cheese. Since then, he always goes for an ultra-safe 1gate expand in PvT, or an FFE in PvZ if he can get away with it, then if he does progress to a macro game he does it carefully.

In fact, as far as comparing Parting to MC is concerned, I consider Parting more "cheesy" (using the term loosely) than MC. In PvT, Parting takes massive risks to get a strong economy and get to the lategame, where Protoss is ridiculously powerful at the moment.


Do you still live in Scotland cause I didn't think ISP's here had bandwidth caps!

I suppose you're right but I guess that being a fan(or anti-fan in my case ;p) of a player will tip what you think about a player in a way.

Also not seeing the games doesn't exactly help XD

I live in Scotland and I have a bandwidth cap. Only 20gb a month too...ridiculous


Holy shit what ISP are you on?

I am looking through my bittorrent and in the last 3-4 days I have downloaded about 10gb of stuff O_O of course that is not including videos on the internet which I watch A LOT of
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
February 16 2012 23:58 GMT
#2192
On February 17 2012 08:50 NexUmbra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 08:46 Talionis wrote:
On February 17 2012 08:45 NexUmbra wrote:
On February 17 2012 08:38 SeaSwift wrote:
On February 17 2012 08:26 NexUmbra wrote:
On February 17 2012 08:08 SeaSwift wrote:
On February 17 2012 08:02 NexUmbra wrote:
On February 17 2012 05:36 Gexs wrote:
On February 17 2012 00:00 PrinceXizor wrote:
On February 16 2012 23:55 GodOfWar wrote:
[quote]

well you know thats bullshit

www.sc2earnings.com

MC is still the number 1 successful Toss, and Genius might very likely go down next round.


congrats, he won an Open season, that automatically will put him near the top of the earnings. he's still no where near the top nowadays when it matters.

I put MC as the 5th best protoss

Genius
Creator
Parting
Treme
MC

MC is super overrated though.

Treme is only there by taking a hype train, and his brilliant GSTL play right now.


An idiot at his finest. Your list should be like this:

MC
Oz
PartinG
Puzzle
HerO


While his is definitely odd yours is still peculiar. Here's what I think

1st: Genius
2nd: PartinG
Joint 3rd: Oz/Puzzle (both are quite inconsistent though)
5th: MC

No doubt that MC is good but I looked at his play and just seen him beat people with some all ins, it never really looked solid(Genius was able to exploit this weakness)



I don't get this last one. MC didn't all-in at all in the whole series, except when he was 4gate first. His loss had nothing to do with his "all-inish" style of play. Genius just outplayed him, from what the LR thread, Fionn and Wax said.

People have been saying his style of play will get figured out since Open Season 3 and GSL regular season 1. Now we are here, nearly a year later, and he still gets into the Ro8 in dominating fashion. (And then loses in dominating fashion...)


I kind of phrased that poorly, I meant what Tastosis said during the game on Dual Sight, what Genius showed MC looked like 3 gate pressure so MC warped in 2 stalkers instead of 2 sentries. It's things like that which are not completely safe that MC often does which(at least in that game)

Also in the game on Cloud Kingdom he got really gutsy and blinked forward into colossus, clumping them all up right in front of genius so that he could micro back into his base.


Hmmm. I can see people thinking MC plays to risky in other matchups (especially PvT), but not in PvP. Of course, I didn't get to watch the games - and still can't because I'm too near my bandwidth max - but there really isn't a non-risky way to play PvP. I can't answer to the specific occasion you are talking about because, again, I didn't see the games T_T

As far as in general MC playing risky, I can say that something people overlook regularly is that he is nowadays really economically safe. When does he ever go for an "economic cheese" a la Parting, going 3 Nexus off few gates? More to the point, outside of PvP (lolPvP) when does MC ever die to an early rush? Think about the last time a 2rax or Roach timing worked against MC. It was months ago, AFAIK, and I watch almost all of MC's games (avid fanboy here). He dropped out of Code S in 2011 because he was vulnerable to cheese. Since then, he always goes for an ultra-safe 1gate expand in PvT, or an FFE in PvZ if he can get away with it, then if he does progress to a macro game he does it carefully.

In fact, as far as comparing Parting to MC is concerned, I consider Parting more "cheesy" (using the term loosely) than MC. In PvT, Parting takes massive risks to get a strong economy and get to the lategame, where Protoss is ridiculously powerful at the moment.


Do you still live in Scotland cause I didn't think ISP's here had bandwidth caps!

I suppose you're right but I guess that being a fan(or anti-fan in my case ;p) of a player will tip what you think about a player in a way.

Also not seeing the games doesn't exactly help XD

I live in Scotland and I have a bandwidth cap. Only 20gb a month too...ridiculous


Holy shit what ISP are you on?

I am looking through my bittorrent and in the last 3-4 days I have downloaded about 10gb of stuff O_O of course that is not including videos on the internet which I watch A LOT of

I'm with Be Unlimited. It's the best we can get out here :/

I don't think they care about enforcing the limit though. There will be some months where I download a shit ton of stuff and i won't hear anything, then there are some months where I won't do much and they email me saying my limit is nearly up. It seems really random to me.
kippy36
Profile Joined February 2012
1 Post
February 17 2012 01:30 GMT
#2193
anyone notice all the semi finalist beat a gsl champion in group stages or ro8 to get here?

alive > mma
genius > mc
gumiho > mvp
dongraegu > nestea

o.0
imabowl
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada23 Posts
February 17 2012 01:43 GMT
#2194
On February 17 2012 10:30 kippy36 wrote:
anyone notice all the semi finalist beat a gsl champion in group stages or ro8 to get here?

alive > mma
genius > mc
gumiho > mvp
dongraegu > nestea

o.0

nice find haha
i play on iccup under the same name
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
February 17 2012 02:19 GMT
#2195
who is playing who next round?
joocybaneling
Profile Joined January 2012
67 Posts
February 17 2012 02:45 GMT
#2196
On February 17 2012 10:30 kippy36 wrote:
anyone notice all the semi finalist beat a gsl champion in group stages or ro8 to get here?

alive > mma
genius > mc
gumiho > mvp
dongraegu > nestea

o.0



mother of god...............


THE GODS ARE BEING DETHRONED
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
February 17 2012 02:46 GMT
#2197
On February 17 2012 10:30 kippy36 wrote:
anyone notice all the semi finalist beat a gsl champion in group stages or ro8 to get here?

alive > mma
genius > mc
gumiho > mvp
dongraegu > nestea

o.0

Hahaha, yeah, someone from the other thread noticed it as well!

Very hyped for the semis!!!
Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
February 17 2012 11:54 GMT
#2198
On February 17 2012 05:56 Grampz wrote:
LR threads full of retards as always. MC loses a bo3 to the hottest protoss in the world (HENCE WHY NOT A SINGLE FUCKING PERSON PICKED HIM IN GROUPS) and now hes not top 5 ?? and now hes fucking terrible? what a JOKE.

you dont understand how rankings are calculated?
every win gives you 10 points. winning major tournaments gives you 100 points, winning gsl gives you 1000 points.
if the games are played more then 1 year ago there is a multiplier of 0.001, one month ago its 0.01, one week ago its 0.1 and if the games are played today or you are currently in the live report thread there is a multiplier of 100.

so basically if you want mc to be top 5 again just wait a week and go into another thread
oh, and hope that he wins something till then.
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
February 17 2012 12:16 GMT
#2199
On February 17 2012 20:54 Heimatloser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 05:56 Grampz wrote:
LR threads full of retards as always. MC loses a bo3 to the hottest protoss in the world (HENCE WHY NOT A SINGLE FUCKING PERSON PICKED HIM IN GROUPS) and now hes not top 5 ?? and now hes fucking terrible? what a JOKE.

you dont understand how rankings are calculated?
every win gives you 10 points. winning major tournaments gives you 100 points, winning gsl gives you 1000 points.
if the games are played more then 1 year ago there is a multiplier of 0.001, one month ago its 0.01, one week ago its 0.1 and if the games are played today or you are currently in the live report thread there is a multiplier of 100.

so basically if you want mc to be top 5 again just wait a week and go into another thread
oh, and hope that he wins something till then.


For a minute there I thought you were serious...then I realize that I'm not that stupid to fall for your silliness.



moo...for DRG
Arcanefrost
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium1257 Posts
February 17 2012 13:04 GMT
#2200
Drg best zerg and genius best toss atm.
Valor is a poor substitute for numbers.
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