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ASUS ROG Winter 2012 Groups and maps - Page 11

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Leetley
Profile Joined October 2010
1796 Posts
February 16 2012 20:59 GMT
#201
Pretty good map pool, tho I kinda hate Terminus. :p

I probably will come watch the event live, so hope there are many games showed on the stage.
Krr
Profile Joined July 2007
Lithuania115 Posts
February 16 2012 21:57 GMT
#202
at least give syz harder group couse he will be bored with this.
sYz ez ! :D
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gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
February 16 2012 22:03 GMT
#203
I think Meta/Shakuras could've been cut from the pool
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
February 16 2012 22:05 GMT
#204
Disappointed that poopy terminus is there, but otherwise this looks awesome, I hope it runs smoothly!
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 23:38:01
February 16 2012 23:33 GMT
#205
On February 17 2012 05:30 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2012 01:36 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On February 17 2012 00:38 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
I'm surprised so many people are not predicting TLO to advance from groups, I say he's definitely making it through (Bling? Do people not realize how solid TLO is in ZvP, with wins over Grubby, Real, and CreatorPrime? Hell, I'd say he's on par with Polt to possibly take the group, seeing as how Polt has dropped out of code A and TLO beat MKP/Tarson recently.


Meh. All those P players are not that solid in PvZ. We will see how he performs at Assembly.


Lol, Grubby beat Darkforce and Ret in homestory 4, and Creator, well, let's just say that "not that solid" Korean PvZ wrecks foreigner PvZ. But whatever, doubters gonna doubt.


I'm going to keep doubting Grubby's PvZ (I'm sold on his PvT though) until he changes my mind. Beating players doesn't prove anything, it's how you beat them. TLO is undoubtedly on the rise but he has not proved himself to be a top player.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Tanukki
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland579 Posts
February 16 2012 23:45 GMT
#206
Man, it looks like the Koreans will steamroll here, such strong players with every race. Any foreigner other than Stephano winning would be an upset. I'm rooting on (Wiki)Satiini to pull off the miracle. :p
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-17 03:19:52
February 17 2012 03:16 GMT
#207
On February 17 2012 05:03 xsnac wrote:
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On February 17 2012 04:20 revel8 wrote:
On February 17 2012 03:29 Xoronius wrote:
On February 17 2012 02:54 StrafeJD wrote:
On February 17 2012 02:05 fortheGG wrote:
On February 17 2012 01:29 StrafeJD wrote:
Predictions to advance

A - PuMa, Kas - look out for Titan
B - Happy, NightEnD - look out for MaNa or Stephano, very even group
C - ReaL, BRAT_OK - look out for Moon
D - HerO, SeleCT - look out for nobody, this group should be rapped up by HerO and Select
E - JYP, White-Ra - look out for nobody, this group should be rapped up by JYP and White-Ra.
F - elfi, (alive, if he makes it out of Grand prix 1) - look out for Adelscott
G - Lucky, Strelok - look out for nobody, this group should be rapped up by Lucky and Strelok.
H - Polt, BlinG - look out for nobody, this group should be rapped up by Polt and BlinG.



Can't see how you'd think both Mana / Stephano wouldn't make it out of that group.



Because Stephano went 1-6 in the second group stage of dreamhack winter 2011 and has done nothing good sense then.
And MaNa was practicing a lot, but he goes to school so hasn't been able to get a great amount of practice lately.


Since the beginnig of the year, Stephano won Scan Invitational 3 7-0, Shoutcraft Invitational 13-3 and eOSL Winter 13-4, making him the highest earning foreigner in the new year, with about twice as much as the 2/3 place got (Kas/Dimaga). "Nothing good"?


Plus Stephano got to the Final of the ONOG Tournament but pulled out because he was tired. I believe this has been mentioned before on TeamLiquid though!

It should also be mentioned that although Stephano did not have the greatest of tournaments at the Home Story Cup 4, he did beat NightEnd 2-0 in their group match, before ultimately being knocked out by some unknowns called MarineKing and MC. I like NightEnd but cannot see how he would a favourite over Stephano to advance.


so your mentality is if nightend lost recently in a game to stephano , he will lose for ever . cuz he lost once . ye sure ul see nightend 3-0 his group and all mouths will be shuted.


My point was that Stephano has been playing consistently well in tournaments over the past 6 weeks or so apart from HSC4. The results mentioned show this. He is also playing very well against Protoss in particular. He has been practicing a lot against Bling and Mana, both Protoss players. Day[9] is doing a show right now with Sheth, where Sheth is showcasing his style of ZvP that he has just adopted from Stephano. So obviously Sheth is impressed enough with Stephano's ZvP if he decides to adopt it.

So considering all that, I think that Stephano is favourite when he meets NightEnd in this Group. I don't think that it is disrespecting NightEnd to state that he is the underdog in this. If you disagree, then fine.
Champloo
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1850 Posts
February 17 2012 05:14 GMT
#208
Man, I wish this would go 3 or 4 days, so they could show more of the games.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 17 2012 05:23 GMT
#209
Add Taeja to this tournament! Just won the Grand Prix!
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Derity
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2952 Posts
February 17 2012 05:25 GMT
#210
ok, first place group F is Taeja. Just move him in the next round
terialk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States770 Posts
February 17 2012 05:39 GMT
#211
Without thinking too much about who will come out of groups, I hope Taeja does well at his first foreign tournament! I'm really glad he qualified through the ESV Weekly to go to ASUS ROG. More motivation for me to wake up at 5am >.>. I'd really like Hero, Lucky, and Kas to go deep in the tournament as well
"This is not the beginning of an end. Instead, it is the end of a beginning." // Little Sprite Fan :D // Never go full China. // At least NA won at Dota 2.
Lennient
Profile Joined January 2012
497 Posts
February 17 2012 06:03 GMT
#212
Happy is really good, curious to see how he does against Stephano
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
February 17 2012 06:15 GMT
#213
Pretty lackluster map pool now that I look at it. Should just stick with the GSL map line-up.
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wtchuwahmon
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia63 Posts
February 17 2012 06:55 GMT
#214
Wow so excited for this tournament. I really like the fact it is only a two day tournament, not having the final day on sunday american time means every single australian (and every other country in same timezone) that works or goes to school will be able to view the finals live. Bring it on!
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
February 17 2012 08:20 GMT
#215
On February 16 2012 06:30 Titorelli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 06:26 Zeon0 wrote:
B, C and H > rest


why is every torunament still using Terminus? doesnt it have huge balance issues?

Didnt you confuse H with A? Who besides Polt is really good in group H?


Alothough Polt is the favourite, if Bling did beat Polt I would hardly see that result as an upset.
BreakfastBurrito
Profile Joined November 2011
United States893 Posts
February 17 2012 08:52 GMT
#216
I appreciate the racial balance and lack of "team collisions" haha. Makes for a more entertaining tourney. MLG groups always make me scratch my head, there will be 4 toss in a group or 3 terran 1 protoss, etc..
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Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4751 Posts
February 17 2012 09:09 GMT
#217
To be honest Mana will have hard time advancing from his group judging by his play lately. He doesnt have enough time to practice i am afraid.
But i am hope i am mistaken. Also GO DIESTAR!
Pathetic Greta hater.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
February 17 2012 10:14 GMT
#218
On February 17 2012 17:52 BreakfastBurrito wrote:
I appreciate the racial balance and lack of "team collisions" haha. Makes for a more entertaining tourney. MLG groups always make me scratch my head, there will be 4 toss in a group or 3 terran 1 protoss, etc..

Yeah, I've always thought that "random draw" is fine... However, I do appreciate the effort to avoid early team kills (and possible conflicts of interest) in group play.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
February 17 2012 12:09 GMT
#219
Group A - 12:00
  • [image loading] kr (T)PuMa
  • [image loading] ua (T)Kas
  • [image loading] [image loading] (P)Titan
  • [image loading] fi (P)Welmu
Group A seems rather straight-forward : one korean training in the US known for its TvP, a strong ukrainian terran and 2 protoss outsiders. However I don't think it will be that easy for PuMa, TiTaN is capable of beating and show good TvP and Kas is above him right now. Left alone is Welmu, not really a dark horse and a little bit outclassed by the rest of the tournament.
Pass : Kas & Winner of TiTaN vs. PuMa


Group B - 13:00
  • [image loading] fr (Z)Stephano
  • [image loading] [image loading] (P)MaNa
  • [image loading] [image loading] (T)Happy
  • [image loading] [image loading] (P)NightEnD
Ah Stephano, the foreigner powerhouse, the devil child, the person on par with NaNiwa for the flak he gets from the community. Yeah, that Stephano and the rest of the group. It seems rather insulting from me to say that he is on another level then MaNa, Happy and NightEnd but there is little room to discussion. That said, his last two big tournaments were god-awful. Dreamhack was disappointing and in HSC 4 he was more interested in having fun with Bling than winning. I guess that's fine but the checks aren't going to the bank by themselves. If you remember well NightEnd beat him at the DH Winter, I don't think it will happen this time. MaNa will once again lose against Stephano and Happy won't be solid or innovative enough. After Stephano everything is possible .. MaNa is traditionnaly stronger than Happy and NightEnd but he seems to lose steam this days. Happy is little more than a solid player and he lacks the spark that will make him a tremendous terran. And NightEnd is somewhat of a darkhorse.
Pass : Stephano & ???? (My bet on NightEnd)


Group C - 14:00
  • [image loading] kr (Z)Moon
  • [image loading] kr (P)ReaL
  • [image loading] [image loading] (T)BRAT_OK
  • [image loading] it (T)ClouD
What is Moon capable of ? He is the same as in WC3 ? That will be his time to show us. His opposition while good isn't top tier and if he doesn't go 6-0 in his group, it will be a failure for a korean that known. ReaL is gimmicky but very ballsy, Brat_OK is a macro terran but lacking creativity and ClouD is creative but awfully tricky to play. ReaL doesn't have a good PvT so I will favor both EU terrans over him. ClouD is a uncanny TvTer and that will be his main advantage however he is not as solid as Brat_OK so he might lose to a protoss 2 base timing from ReaL.
Pass : Moon & Brat_OK


Group D - 15:00
  • [image loading] kr (P)HerO
  • [image loading] kr (T)SeleCT
  • [image loading] se (P)Seiplo
  • [image loading] [image loading] (Z)sYz
After a dissapointing performance in ESWC, sYz is back. He has been somewhat discreet lately so I'm wondering he if can get out of this group though he is a respectable mid-tier EU. Speaking of huge letdown, HerO shouldn't lose here. That said, the common excuses for his losses are his nerves so I don't know ... he might see too much finnish girls and lose his head ... After some thought that's the only excuse he will have if he doesn't pass. I love SeleCT, he is a serious player and a smart guy (a really smart guy) and I think he is above Seiplo and sYz, the former being also a mid-tier EU.
Pass : HerO (jinx) & SeleCT

Group E - 16:00
  • [image loading] kr (P)JYP
  • [image loading]
    ua (P)White-Ra
  • [image loading] fi (T)Satiini
  • [image loading] [image loading] (T)DieStar
2 protoss, 2 terrans ? I can see where this is going. JYP should pass if he can win against White-Ra (which is not a given), he should win against DieStar because the polish terran has a horrible PvT on top of his nerves issues (not HerO-like though), Satiini (strongly reinforcing the argument I have with my finnish friends that finnish lacks creativity) should also lose. That leaves us with DieStar losing against White-Ra too and out, and Satiini as a wild-card. Because of karma, I'm going to bet on protosses, GSL is the thermometer of SC2 and Protosses have been doing great.
Pass : JYP & White-Ra

Group F - 17:00
  • [image loading] kr (T)Taeja
  • [image loading] fi (P)elfi-
  • [image loading] fr (P)Adelscott
  • [image loading] se (T)Jinro
Did you watch the ESV Grand Prix ? If no, you are dumb because it was AWESOME. Props to them. So Taeja won, which while unsurprising proves that he isn't the last of SlayerS terrans. I'm going to be buyest and say this will be his international break-out. Elfi has a good PvP and Jinro is coming back and Adelscott really wants to stick with the french ideology of the Maginot line (except Germans always got around it - aren't they smart) of not-scouting. I can't foresee the results of Jinro vs. elfi so I'm going with elfi because his name is Samuli and if it's doesn't make you laugh then you are cold as ice.
Pass: Taeja (6-0) & elfi


Group G - 18:00
  • [image loading] kr (Z)Lucky
  • [image loading] ua (T)Strelok
  • [image loading] ua (Z)Bly
  • [image loading] se (P)Bischu
Interesting group, perhaps the most interesting for me. Bly is an online beast but never did anything major. Bischu is a strong Protoss but inconsistent and Strelok isn't as strong as he was (though he is extra nice and considerate). Lucky had a good IPL3 and has proven to be a strong Code A (almost Code S). He should be the favorite here because he is korean but the others can take him with good odds. I'll go with Bischu this time. No special reasons, pure guts.
Pass : Lucky & Bisch


Group H - 19:00
  • [image loading] kr (T)Polt
  • [image loading] kr (Z)PhoeNix
  • [image loading] uk (P)BlinG
  • [image loading] de (Z)TLO
TLO is fun and has improce since his switch to Zerg but he is still only a mid-tier EU, PhoeNix isn't as good as his teammate ReaL and will struggle against Polt and BlinG. Polt should take this group easily even though he is having issues in Korea. So the obvious second finisher is BlinG.
Pass : Polt & BlinG
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
February 17 2012 13:00 GMT
#220
Polt to win the tournament
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
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