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On February 15 2012 07:01 Seeker wrote:
We are now at the point where if I curse someone in Code S, I fear that some of you would go hunting after me. Therefore, I'm just going to wish everyone a GL, HF, GG
You do realise that now none of them will either have fun or play any good games.
Well done Seeker, really thought that through! 
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On February 15 2012 07:54 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2012 07:43 VirgilSC2 wrote:On February 15 2012 07:25 NPF wrote:On February 15 2012 07:17 Seraphone wrote:On February 15 2012 07:12 Flanq wrote:On February 15 2012 07:09 Seraphone wrote:
MMA and Puzzle are really obvious favourites. They aren't guarantees but you'd be insane to liquibet anything else. aLive is perfectly capable of causing an upset to be fair to him, he got my Liquibet. But he's still not a favourite, or even close and in liquibets you vote for the guy who's more likely to win, unless you enjoy being wrong. And there's no way Alive is more likely to win than a multiple GSL Champion and best (or second best) player in the world. However looking at the TvT alive played last round we can see he is strong in the match up. He is even slightly better then MMA in his last 10 games. 9 wins 1 lost vs 8 wins 2 lost (for MMA) (courtesy of TLPD) Alive has a very good chance of taking out MMA and I'm cheering for him du to his play in the last round. Oh and go Puzzle. aLive is actually 7-3 in his last TvT's compared to MMA's 8-2 MMA's 2 losses were 1 game to Polt and 1 game to MvP (Both in Blizzard Cup) aLive's 3 losses were 1 game to Jinro and 2 games to MarineKing. Don't distort TLPD facts, it makes you look silly. I hate to be that guy, but MMA's loss to MVP came from the October GSL finals (4-1), as he swept MVP 3-0 in the Blizzcup semis. Sorry, but I could not resist.
Technically MVP 4-2'd MMA between the October GSL and Blizzcup if we want to count back =p
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So hyped, these games are going to be great.
This is the part where I predict the matches for today, but fuck that shit. i can do better. I'll predict the entire rest of the season.
ro8
MMA > Alive
Puzzle > Gumiho
MC > Genius
DRG > Parting
ro4
Puzzle > DRG
MC > MMA
Finals:
MC > Puzzle
Protoss fuck yeah.
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MMA and Puzzle are the clear favorites. I think it will go 3-1 MMA and 3-0 Puzzle.
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On February 15 2012 07:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2012 07:54 Bagration wrote:On February 15 2012 07:43 VirgilSC2 wrote:On February 15 2012 07:25 NPF wrote:On February 15 2012 07:17 Seraphone wrote:On February 15 2012 07:12 Flanq wrote:On February 15 2012 07:09 Seraphone wrote:
MMA and Puzzle are really obvious favourites. They aren't guarantees but you'd be insane to liquibet anything else. aLive is perfectly capable of causing an upset to be fair to him, he got my Liquibet. But he's still not a favourite, or even close and in liquibets you vote for the guy who's more likely to win, unless you enjoy being wrong. And there's no way Alive is more likely to win than a multiple GSL Champion and best (or second best) player in the world. However looking at the TvT alive played last round we can see he is strong in the match up. He is even slightly better then MMA in his last 10 games. 9 wins 1 lost vs 8 wins 2 lost (for MMA) (courtesy of TLPD) Alive has a very good chance of taking out MMA and I'm cheering for him du to his play in the last round. Oh and go Puzzle. aLive is actually 7-3 in his last TvT's compared to MMA's 8-2 MMA's 2 losses were 1 game to Polt and 1 game to MvP (Both in Blizzard Cup) aLive's 3 losses were 1 game to Jinro and 2 games to MarineKing. Don't distort TLPD facts, it makes you look silly. I hate to be that guy, but MMA's loss to MVP came from the October GSL finals (4-1), as he swept MVP 3-0 in the Blizzcup semis. Sorry, but I could not resist. That would be correct, my mistake. Thanks for pointing it out. However, still remains that comparing Korean TLPD to International TLPD is silly.
Yes, I agree that comparing the two TLPD usually is silly, because you factor in matches where top Koreans take out relatively weaker foreigners. But in some rare cases, such as when a player plays in a tournament such as the FXO invitational, an international tournament that is nevertheless 90% or more Korean, International TLPD becomes valid.
In the end it all comes down to the strength of competition.
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On February 15 2012 08:02 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2012 07:54 Bagration wrote:On February 15 2012 07:43 VirgilSC2 wrote:On February 15 2012 07:25 NPF wrote:On February 15 2012 07:17 Seraphone wrote:On February 15 2012 07:12 Flanq wrote:On February 15 2012 07:09 Seraphone wrote:
MMA and Puzzle are really obvious favourites. They aren't guarantees but you'd be insane to liquibet anything else. aLive is perfectly capable of causing an upset to be fair to him, he got my Liquibet. But he's still not a favourite, or even close and in liquibets you vote for the guy who's more likely to win, unless you enjoy being wrong. And there's no way Alive is more likely to win than a multiple GSL Champion and best (or second best) player in the world. However looking at the TvT alive played last round we can see he is strong in the match up. He is even slightly better then MMA in his last 10 games. 9 wins 1 lost vs 8 wins 2 lost (for MMA) (courtesy of TLPD) Alive has a very good chance of taking out MMA and I'm cheering for him du to his play in the last round. Oh and go Puzzle. aLive is actually 7-3 in his last TvT's compared to MMA's 8-2 MMA's 2 losses were 1 game to Polt and 1 game to MvP (Both in Blizzard Cup) aLive's 3 losses were 1 game to Jinro and 2 games to MarineKing. Don't distort TLPD facts, it makes you look silly. I hate to be that guy, but MMA's loss to MVP came from the October GSL finals (4-1), as he swept MVP 3-0 in the Blizzcup semis. Sorry, but I could not resist. Technically MVP 4-2'd MMA between the October GSL and Blizzcup if we want to count back =p
Ah yes, the MLG Global Invite. I remember MVP had an incredible run, coming back from a 0-3 deficit to beat Bomber in a Bo7, then going on to beat MMA.
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How can anyone possibly think alive is so great all of a sudden? He's not bad don't get me wrong... but better than MMA? Lol... Another completely overrated person.. I think he'll win one game max.
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On February 15 2012 08:05 Dodgin wrote:
So hyped, these games are going to be great.
This is the part where I predict the matches for today, but fuck that shit. i can do better. I'll predict the entire rest of the season.
ro8
MMA > Alive
Puzzle > Gumiho
MC > Genius
DRG > Parting
ro4
Puzzle > DRG
MC > MMA
Finals:
MC > Puzzle
Protoss fuck yeah.
heh.
Alive should beat MMA
Genius should beat MC
Parting should beat DRG
Puzzle should beat gumiho
Genius should beat alive
Parting will beat Puzzle
Parting will beat Genius in the finals.
Thats how It should go based on how they are playing right now.
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MMA's TvT is pretty cheesy, if Alive plays solid mech style and doesn't make too many mistakes he should be fine.
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On February 15 2012 08:10 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2012 08:02 Asha` wrote:On February 15 2012 07:54 Bagration wrote:On February 15 2012 07:43 VirgilSC2 wrote:On February 15 2012 07:25 NPF wrote:On February 15 2012 07:17 Seraphone wrote:On February 15 2012 07:12 Flanq wrote:On February 15 2012 07:09 Seraphone wrote:
MMA and Puzzle are really obvious favourites. They aren't guarantees but you'd be insane to liquibet anything else. aLive is perfectly capable of causing an upset to be fair to him, he got my Liquibet. But he's still not a favourite, or even close and in liquibets you vote for the guy who's more likely to win, unless you enjoy being wrong. And there's no way Alive is more likely to win than a multiple GSL Champion and best (or second best) player in the world. However looking at the TvT alive played last round we can see he is strong in the match up. He is even slightly better then MMA in his last 10 games. 9 wins 1 lost vs 8 wins 2 lost (for MMA) (courtesy of TLPD) Alive has a very good chance of taking out MMA and I'm cheering for him du to his play in the last round. Oh and go Puzzle. aLive is actually 7-3 in his last TvT's compared to MMA's 8-2 MMA's 2 losses were 1 game to Polt and 1 game to MvP (Both in Blizzard Cup) aLive's 3 losses were 1 game to Jinro and 2 games to MarineKing. Don't distort TLPD facts, it makes you look silly. I hate to be that guy, but MMA's loss to MVP came from the October GSL finals (4-1), as he swept MVP 3-0 in the Blizzcup semis. Sorry, but I could not resist. Technically MVP 4-2'd MMA between the October GSL and Blizzcup if we want to count back =p Ah yes, the MLG Global Invite. I remember MVP had an incredible run, coming back from a 0-3 deficit to beat Bomber in a Bo7, then going on to beat MMA.
It's funny I remember everyone predicting 4-0 MVP at GSL Oct even tho MMA beat MVP twice at the Geforce online tourney. They said online results mean jack. Why aren't they singing the same tune now? haha
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On February 15 2012 08:10 VavPK wrote:
How can anyone possibly think alive is so great all of a sudden? He's not bad don't get me wrong... but better than MMA? Lol... Another completely overrated person.. I think he'll win one game max.
aLive has been playing very well recently, winning the ESV Weekly 4-1 over Taeja and winning the IPL 4 online qualifier. He is still the underdog, but definitely strong enough to beat MMA. That being said, I still think and hope that MMA wins.
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On February 15 2012 08:10 VavPK wrote:
How can anyone possibly think alive is so great all of a sudden? He's not bad don't get me wrong... but better than MMA? Lol... Another completely overrated person.. I think he'll win one game max.
yeah, just got gsl code s ro8 twice in a row, nothing special here.
completely overrated.
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aLive, GuMiho all the way <3
Can't seriously believe people are still doubting aLive, Polt syndrome to the max >.>
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On February 15 2012 08:10 VavPK wrote:
How can anyone possibly think alive is so great all of a sudden? He's not bad don't get me wrong... but better than MMA? Lol... Another completely overrated person.. I think he'll win one game max.
Because people have short memory and only go by recent results. If Alive has beaten 3 terrans since last week but MMA hasn't played any, Alive becomes a favorite to them for whatever reason.
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On February 15 2012 08:13 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2012 08:05 Dodgin wrote:
So hyped, these games are going to be great.
This is the part where I predict the matches for today, but fuck that shit. i can do better. I'll predict the entire rest of the season.
ro8
MMA > Alive
Puzzle > Gumiho
MC > Genius
DRG > Parting
ro4
Puzzle > DRG
MC > MMA
Finals:
MC > Puzzle
Protoss fuck yeah. heh. Alive should beat MMA Genius should beat MC Parting should beat DRG Puzzle should beat gumiho Genius should beat alive Parting will beat Puzzle Parting will beat Genius in the finals. Thats how It should go based on how they are playing right now.
I'm fine with that too. Because when a protoss wins, we all win
I just wish parting did not draw DRG as his ro8 it would be pretty sick for him to royal road his first Code S. Could still happen though!
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On February 15 2012 08:14 bucckevin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2012 08:10 Bagration wrote:On February 15 2012 08:02 Asha` wrote:On February 15 2012 07:54 Bagration wrote:On February 15 2012 07:43 VirgilSC2 wrote:On February 15 2012 07:25 NPF wrote:On February 15 2012 07:17 Seraphone wrote:On February 15 2012 07:12 Flanq wrote:On February 15 2012 07:09 Seraphone wrote:
MMA and Puzzle are really obvious favourites. They aren't guarantees but you'd be insane to liquibet anything else. aLive is perfectly capable of causing an upset to be fair to him, he got my Liquibet. But he's still not a favourite, or even close and in liquibets you vote for the guy who's more likely to win, unless you enjoy being wrong. And there's no way Alive is more likely to win than a multiple GSL Champion and best (or second best) player in the world. However looking at the TvT alive played last round we can see he is strong in the match up. He is even slightly better then MMA in his last 10 games. 9 wins 1 lost vs 8 wins 2 lost (for MMA) (courtesy of TLPD) Alive has a very good chance of taking out MMA and I'm cheering for him du to his play in the last round. Oh and go Puzzle. aLive is actually 7-3 in his last TvT's compared to MMA's 8-2 MMA's 2 losses were 1 game to Polt and 1 game to MvP (Both in Blizzard Cup) aLive's 3 losses were 1 game to Jinro and 2 games to MarineKing. Don't distort TLPD facts, it makes you look silly. I hate to be that guy, but MMA's loss to MVP came from the October GSL finals (4-1), as he swept MVP 3-0 in the Blizzcup semis. Sorry, but I could not resist. Technically MVP 4-2'd MMA between the October GSL and Blizzcup if we want to count back =p Ah yes, the MLG Global Invite. I remember MVP had an incredible run, coming back from a 0-3 deficit to beat Bomber in a Bo7, then going on to beat MMA. It's funny I remember everyone predicting 4-0 MVP at GSL Oct even tho MMA beat MVP twice at the Geforce online tourney. They said online results mean jack. Why aren't they singing the same tune now? haha
MVP going into the October finals appeared unstoppable. This was before we realized that MMA could be the guy who could stop him. Having just won GSL August convincingly (beating MC, Polt, Nestea, Huk, July and finally TOP and dropping only 2 games) and having returned to the finals for October (Nestea being the only player he faced who gave him trouble), everyone expected MVP to win his 4th title.
Many people at that time were playing with the term "bonjwa" for MVP. It just seemed hugely improbable that a Terran player, especially a bio player like MMA, could possibly beat MVP in a Bo7. There were people who looked at the head to head reults and realized that MMA had a very good record against MVP, but MVP was winning tournaments left and right.
Edit: Damn, deraiiled the thread. My apologies.
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On February 15 2012 08:14 0ne wrote:
MMA's TvT is pretty cheesy, if Alive plays solid mech style and doesn't make a lot of mistakes he should be fine.
MMA is the king of beating mech players in TvT though
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if alive wins first game he probably wins.
if not lost.
gumiho needs to catch puzzle's mistakes.
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3-1 MMA
3-2 Gumiho
Here's hoping!
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EPT
