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Llewellys is working really hard like always, this time he will show some high level games in the second edition of his offline event: the LDLC Winter Trophy 2012. 500 lucky supporters will attend to the event at Paris in a theater next to the Eiffel Tower !
When:
18 February from 14h00 to 23h00 CET.
Where:
Paris, France.
Players:
Prize:
1)2000€
2)500€
3)200€
Where to Watch:
Bracket
Have fun,
Millenium.
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Nice event ! Here is the Liquipedia link :
 LDLC Winter Trophy
Nice to see more internationnal players this time ! 
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Sounds fun, definitely gonna watch this
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Looks great, thanks!
Oh and the video is amazing. Great atmosphere and a whole other intensity than what is usually seen in this type of video.
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Will be watching this . Nice pricepool for a 8 player invitational :D.
Grubby Go Go Go !
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Will there also be an english stream (assuming the Millenium stream is french)?
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On February 17 2012 19:22 CosmoK wrote:
Will there also be an english stream (assuming the Millenium stream is french)?
would like to know that as well since watching a stream without understanding anything is not worth the time :/
would love to follow it though if any english (or even german) is able too cover it
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On February 17 2012 22:12 TheMexican wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2012 19:22 CosmoK wrote:
Will there also be an english stream (assuming the Millenium stream is french)? would like to know that as well since watching a stream without understanding anything is not worth the time :/ would love to follow it though if any english (or even german) is able too cover it
No idea. I just know it's a live event in french broadcasted on Millenium TV. Maybe some casters will join the games and broadcast it in another language. Let see tomorow.
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Yes, the french one will shoutcast from the event, so don't know if they will allow other casters, could be nice
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where's the stream?
[EDIT]
i'm one day early XD
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Oh no, not this shit again! Feel bad for Kas! 
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Good luck Grubby! I really hope he can beat Stephano this time
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Countdown is live on stream
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easy money for sthephano
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Will there be an english stream?
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Does anyone know the match-ups for the quarter finals?
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On February 18 2012 21:08 m0ck wrote:
Does anyone know the match-ups for the quarter finals?
I don't think they're up yet :/
Not on Millenium page or liquipedia.
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I can tell there will be a pvz in the quarters.
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Grubby hwaiting! Snap the legs off those frogs!
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On February 18 2012 21:26 Rowa wrote:
I can tell there will be a pvz in the quarters.
Grubby and Stephano will have to play against each other somewere in the tournament for sure!
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The sound is just horrible, ill put it back on when games are started...
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On February 18 2012 22:10 Ssnik wrote:
So what's happening?
bunch of people speaking french and a countdown =)
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Is there anyone in this that can give Stephano a run for the money?
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Is the commentary going to be in english?
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On February 18 2012 22:11 HowardRoark wrote:
Is there anyone in this that can give Stephano a run for the money?
Grubby and BlinG
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Does anyone have an URL for the stream? Doesn't show up on the TL page.
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On February 18 2012 22:12 Tarotis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 22:11 HowardRoark wrote:
Is there anyone in this that can give Stephano a run for the money? Grubby and BlinG
ye, cause BlinG is like 5-100 in custom games between them :D
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On February 18 2012 22:14 KalWarkov wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 22:12 Tarotis wrote:On February 18 2012 22:11 HowardRoark wrote:
Is there anyone in this that can give Stephano a run for the money? Grubby and BlinG ye, cause BlinG is like 5-100 in custom games between them :D
It just shows that he IS capable of beating him!  A good terran could handle Stephano easily I think, sadly there is none... His ZvP is too strong probably and I doubt they will take him
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Thanks! That player needs a play/pause button!
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Okay so... what were matchups?
I only caught Grubby vs Sarens
(and Stephano vs Kenzy first)
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I heard :
stephano - Kenzy
Grubby - Sarens
Elvis - Adelscott
Bling - Tarson
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First match will start soon on millenium tv:
Stephano vs Kenzy
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Stephano-Kenzy
Bling-Tarson
Sarens-Grubby
Elvis-Adelscott
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So it's
Stephano - Kenzy
Tarson - Bling
Elvis - Adelscott
Grubby - Sarens
?
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Anyone know if there's an English language stream?
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On February 18 2012 22:22 warzag wrote:
I heard :
stephano - Bling
Grubby - Sarens
Elvis - Adelscott
Kenzy - Tarson
In order :
Stephano - Kenzy
BlinG - Tarson
Pause
ELVIS - Adelscott
Grubby - Sarens
LP is up to date.
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this thread needs more stream links !!!
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On February 18 2012 22:24 Purple Haze wrote:
Anyone know if there's an English language stream?
No english stream
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What did he say
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Stephano is better trolll in french by far =)
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him winning would be normal cause hes the best;him loosing would just be bad luck
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On February 18 2012 22:18 Tarotis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 22:14 KalWarkov wrote:On February 18 2012 22:12 Tarotis wrote:On February 18 2012 22:11 HowardRoark wrote:
Is there anyone in this that can give Stephano a run for the money? Grubby and BlinG ye, cause BlinG is like 5-100 in custom games between them :D It just shows that he IS capable of beating him! A good terran could handle Stephano easily I think, sadly there is none... His ZvP is too strong probably and I doubt they will take him
the best foreign terran is there dude, and sadly, he cannot handle stephano easily at all.
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On February 14 2012 03:27 Millenium wrote:
Where to Watch:
A stream will be powered by Millenium ofc!
I take that as meaning "there will be a stream. In French."
Correct?
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Will they stream all matches from the Quarterfinals?
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On February 18 2012 22:28 snow2.0 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2012 03:27 Millenium wrote:
Where to Watch:
A stream will be powered by Millenium ofc!
I take that as meaning "there will be a stream. In French." Correct?
huhu;you know what millenium tv means!just mute and listen to stephanos playlists instead!
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Poor caster he have sth like 20 fps :D
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On February 18 2012 22:29 cyclone25 wrote:
Will they stream all matches from the Quarterfinals?
All match are streamed, it's a live event on stage
And yes a stream powered by millenium means a Frech stream, sorry!
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On February 18 2012 22:28 KalWarkov wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 22:18 Tarotis wrote:On February 18 2012 22:14 KalWarkov wrote:On February 18 2012 22:12 Tarotis wrote:On February 18 2012 22:11 HowardRoark wrote:
Is there anyone in this that can give Stephano a run for the money? Grubby and BlinG ye, cause BlinG is like 5-100 in custom games between them :D It just shows that he IS capable of beating him! A good terran could handle Stephano easily I think, sadly there is none... His ZvP is too strong probably and I doubt they will take him the best foreign terran is there dude, and sadly, he cannot handle stephano easily at all.
Uhm, no? Neither Tarson nor SarenS are anywhere near the best foreign terrans?
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On February 18 2012 22:30 clementdudu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 22:28 snow2.0 wrote:On February 14 2012 03:27 Millenium wrote:
Where to Watch:
A stream will be powered by Millenium ofc!
I take that as meaning "there will be a stream. In French." Correct? huhu;you know what millenium tv means!just mute and listen to stephanos playlists instead!
I dont have time to watch, but I'd have listened and tabbed in to see the important bits.
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On February 18 2012 22:28 KalWarkov wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 22:18 Tarotis wrote:On February 18 2012 22:14 KalWarkov wrote:On February 18 2012 22:12 Tarotis wrote:On February 18 2012 22:11 HowardRoark wrote:
Is there anyone in this that can give Stephano a run for the money? Grubby and BlinG ye, cause BlinG is like 5-100 in custom games between them :D It just shows that he IS capable of beating him! A good terran could handle Stephano easily I think, sadly there is none... His ZvP is too strong probably and I doubt they will take him the best foreign terran is there dude, and sadly, he cannot handle stephano easily at all.
Tarson?
Kas was replaced by Feast because of visa issues if you missed it.
Edit: Oops, yeah, right.
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On February 18 2012 22:32 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 22:28 KalWarkov wrote:On February 18 2012 22:18 Tarotis wrote:On February 18 2012 22:14 KalWarkov wrote:On February 18 2012 22:12 Tarotis wrote:On February 18 2012 22:11 HowardRoark wrote:
Is there anyone in this that can give Stephano a run for the money? Grubby and BlinG ye, cause BlinG is like 5-100 in custom games between them :D It just shows that he IS capable of beating him! A good terran could handle Stephano easily I think, sadly there is none... His ZvP is too strong probably and I doubt they will take him the best foreign terran is there dude, and sadly, he cannot handle stephano easily at all. Tarson? Kas was replaced by Feast because of visa issues if you missed it.
*replaced by BlinG
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On February 18 2012 22:30 Tarotis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 22:28 KalWarkov wrote:On February 18 2012 22:18 Tarotis wrote:On February 18 2012 22:14 KalWarkov wrote:On February 18 2012 22:12 Tarotis wrote:On February 18 2012 22:11 HowardRoark wrote:
Is there anyone in this that can give Stephano a run for the money? Grubby and BlinG ye, cause BlinG is like 5-100 in custom games between them :D It just shows that he IS capable of beating him! A good terran could handle Stephano easily I think, sadly there is none... His ZvP is too strong probably and I doubt they will take him the best foreign terran is there dude, and sadly, he cannot handle stephano easily at all. Uhm, no? Neither Tarson nor SarenS are anywhere near the best foreign terrans?
he thought kas was here;unfortunately he was unable to attend due to visa issues
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On February 18 2012 22:32 clementdudu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 22:30 Tarotis wrote:On February 18 2012 22:28 KalWarkov wrote:On February 18 2012 22:18 Tarotis wrote:On February 18 2012 22:14 KalWarkov wrote:On February 18 2012 22:12 Tarotis wrote:On February 18 2012 22:11 HowardRoark wrote:
Is there anyone in this that can give Stephano a run for the money? Grubby and BlinG ye, cause BlinG is like 5-100 in custom games between them :D It just shows that he IS capable of beating him! A good terran could handle Stephano easily I think, sadly there is none... His ZvP is too strong probably and I doubt they will take him the best foreign terran is there dude, and sadly, he cannot handle stephano easily at all. Uhm, no? Neither Tarson nor SarenS are anywhere near the best foreign terrans? he thought kas was here;unfortunately he was unable to attend due to visa issues
Too bad the flight company has been bank rupt :D
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On February 18 2012 22:35 clementdudu wrote:
stream own?
Up again
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sounds is terrible
game audio is fine (unlike framerate), but casters isn't in stereo (only left)
stephano's roaches managed to hit the drones but didn't make much damage to economy
kenzy's mutas are chasing stephano's overlords
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On February 18 2012 22:25 Otolia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 22:24 Purple Haze wrote:
Anyone know if there's an English language stream? No english stream
Thanks for the info. Is anyone else looking at Battlenet menu screens instead of the actual game on the stream?
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On February 18 2012 22:37 Purple Haze wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 22:25 Otolia wrote:On February 18 2012 22:24 Purple Haze wrote:
Anyone know if there's an English language stream? No english stream Thanks for the info. Is anyone else looking at Battlenet menu screens instead of the actual game on the stream?
caster crashed out of the game
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On February 18 2012 22:37 Purple Haze wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 22:25 Otolia wrote:On February 18 2012 22:24 Purple Haze wrote:
Anyone know if there's an English language stream? No english stream Thanks for the info. Is anyone else looking at Battlenet menu screens instead of the actual game on the stream?
Observer dropped out I guess... Really bad tournament so far imho
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Yeah, they must have lost internet for a short time. Anyone with a working french vocabulary who can translate and give a summary?
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On February 18 2012 22:38 Tarotis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 22:37 Purple Haze wrote:On February 18 2012 22:25 Otolia wrote:On February 18 2012 22:24 Purple Haze wrote:
Anyone know if there's an English language stream? No english stream Thanks for the info. Is anyone else looking at Battlenet menu screens instead of the actual game on the stream? Observer dropped out I guess... Really bad tournament so far imho
we're 5 minutes into it...
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It's almost like watching a french movie.
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On February 18 2012 22:38 DOUDOU wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 22:38 Tarotis wrote:On February 18 2012 22:37 Purple Haze wrote:On February 18 2012 22:25 Otolia wrote:On February 18 2012 22:24 Purple Haze wrote:
Anyone know if there's an English language stream? No english stream Thanks for the info. Is anyone else looking at Battlenet menu screens instead of the actual game on the stream? Observer dropped out I guess... Really bad tournament so far imho we're 5 minutes into it...
With terrible sound, no english stream and we do not even see the game
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I don't quite understand why once again there is no english stream. Surely it isn't that much effort to find casters willing to do it even for free. I'm sure alot of amateur casters would jump at the chance to cast this.
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On February 18 2012 22:38 m0ck wrote:
Yeah, they must have lost internet for a short time. Anyone with a working french vocabulary who can translate and give a summary?
stephano went hydra and denied kenzy's mutas
stephano's economy is vastly superior, with kenzy not having a 3rd running yet
kenzy adding many spines, stephano max out, rush in, win
sorry, everything is happening so fast i don't even have the time to elaborate, or even type, it's over
stephano 1 - 0 kenzy
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On February 18 2012 22:38 m0ck wrote:
Yeah, they must have lost internet for a short time. Anyone with a working french vocabulary who can translate and give a summary?
Stephano is far ahead (mass roach and hydra) and Kenzy teched T3 to go back in the game...
Stephano wins!
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Thanks for that, caught the end of the game. Hope things will improve from here.
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On February 18 2012 22:40 DOUDOU wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 22:38 m0ck wrote:
Yeah, they must have lost internet for a short time. Anyone with a working french vocabulary who can translate and give a summary? stephano went hydra and denied kenzy's mutas stephano's economy is vastly superior, with kenzy not having a 3rd running yet kenzy adding many spines, stephano max out, rush in, win
Thanks!
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On February 18 2012 22:39 Crushinator wrote:
I don't quite understand why once again there is no english stream. Surely it isn't that much effort to find casters willing to do it even for free. I'm sure alot of amateur casters would jump at the chance to cast this.
im pretty sure that if casters had asked to cast it in english;there wouldnt have been a problem.seems like noone did
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On February 18 2012 22:41 clementdudu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 22:39 Crushinator wrote:
I don't quite understand why once again there is no english stream. Surely it isn't that much effort to find casters willing to do it even for free. I'm sure alot of amateur casters would jump at the chance to cast this. im pretty sure that if casters had asked to cast it in english;there wouldnt have been a problem.seems like noone did
Agreed and as you can see there's a russian stream too so it's not that Millé only wants their stream
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well im gonna watch KSL if there is no english stream :/
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On February 18 2012 22:41 clementdudu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 22:39 Crushinator wrote:
I don't quite understand why once again there is no english stream. Surely it isn't that much effort to find casters willing to do it even for free. I'm sure alot of amateur casters would jump at the chance to cast this. im pretty sure that if casters had asked to cast it in english;there wouldnt have been a problem.seems like noone did
They should ask Tarson, Bling or Grubby to do it, à la homestory....
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Main goal for lwl is to organize tournament for french community and develop e-sport in France. I'm sure he doesn't really care about english stream, though if someone wanted to stream in english he would obviously agree.
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I would cast you the games if i hadn't a wooden pc :D
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hatch first against gas first./
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The bracket is now available on the top of this topic !
Here is the bracket of Ro16 :
+ Show Spoiler +
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Millenium, why isn't there an English stream available? You could double or triple the number of viewers easily.
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On February 18 2012 22:49 Millenium wrote:The bracket is now available on the top of this topic ! Here is the bracket of Ro16 : + Show Spoiler +
Except for the fact that its a ro8?
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Well this is a pretty good opportunity to practice my highschool french :D
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On February 18 2012 22:50 Ssnik wrote:Millenium, why isn't there an English stream available? You could double or triple the number of viewers easily.
Yes, but french sponsor, soo...
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On February 18 2012 22:51 Paperplane wrote:
Well this is a pretty good opportunity to practice my highschool french :D
A lot of the names and words used are the same as in english
If you need help or precision ask for it
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On February 18 2012 22:45 Gevna wrote:
Main goal for lwl is to organize tournament for french community and develop e-sport in France. I'm sure he doesn't really care about english stream, though if someone wanted to stream in english he would obviously agree.
I realise this but I'm just saying I would have appreciated just a tiny tiny bit of effort to accomodate the international community. Just a line asking for english casters to apply in the OP would have been nice. Millenium tournaments are usually quite nice.
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Stephano 2 - 0 Kenzy
next match : Tarson - BlinG
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On February 18 2012 22:52 Vira wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 22:50 Ssnik wrote:Millenium, why isn't there an English stream available? You could double or triple the number of viewers easily. Yes, but french sponsor, soo...
And Homestory Cup has German sponsors, soo...
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too bad this is french cast only TT
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On February 18 2012 22:45 Gevna wrote:
Main goal for lwl is to organize tournament for french community and develop e-sport in France. I'm sure he doesn't really care about english stream, though if someone wanted to stream in english he would obviously agree.
more viewers is better for the tourney in terms of advertisement and sponsors, by not arranging an english stream you are hurting the chance to have more french events.
how short sighted.
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On February 18 2012 22:54 Ssnik wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 22:52 Vira wrote:On February 18 2012 22:50 Ssnik wrote:Millenium, why isn't there an English stream available? You could double or triple the number of viewers easily. Yes, but french sponsor, soo... And Homestory Cup has German sponsors, soo...
The weird thing with the french people and brands is, that they dont really care much for anything outside of france. They listen only to french music, only dirnk french wine etc etc, so its not that surprising they dont care much for an english stream. Thats not supposed to b e an insult, but thats my expirience with france
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Well, French casting is not a deal-breaker for me, i enjoy zerg domination in any language
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On February 18 2012 22:56 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 22:45 Gevna wrote:
Main goal for lwl is to organize tournament for french community and develop e-sport in France. I'm sure he doesn't really care about english stream, though if someone wanted to stream in english he would obviously agree. more viewers is better for the tourney in terms of advertisement and sponsors, by not arranging an english stream you are hurting the chance to have more french events. how short sighted.
You know how french people (in general) aren't good in english :D
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guys dont focus on the fact thats its only in french,imagine that its moletrap solo casting and do what youd do if that was the case...
+ Show Spoiler +hope noone pokes their internal ear with a knife because of the thought of moletrap solo casting
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This is ezwin for elvis. Gogogo ELVIS!
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On February 18 2012 22:53 Tycondryus wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 22:51 Paperplane wrote:
Well this is a pretty good opportunity to practice my highschool french :D A lot of the names and words used are the same as in english If you need help or precision ask for it
Hah thanks :D Because I know the context and they use a lot of english words I understand most of it.
But when the caster gets excited he speaks so fast it's hard to understand 
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HAHA caster asking the audience for the translation of blings answer
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On February 18 2012 22:56 Tarotis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 22:54 Ssnik wrote:On February 18 2012 22:52 Vira wrote:On February 18 2012 22:50 Ssnik wrote:Millenium, why isn't there an English stream available? You could double or triple the number of viewers easily. Yes, but french sponsor, soo... And Homestory Cup has German sponsors, soo... The weird thing with the french people and brands is, that they dont really care much for anything outside of france. They listen only to french music, only dirnk french wine etc etc, so its not that surprising they dont care much for an english stream. Thats not supposed to b e an insult, but thats my expirience with france
Bad experience so I'm french and I like to watch english stream, to listen music from all over the world and to drink german beer If they do a french stream it's because there is a lot of french who do not understand english and millenium do not have any english caster so, they do it in french I think that if an english caster want to cast, he can
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Bling looks so manly with that beard :O
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On February 18 2012 22:56 Tarotis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 22:54 Ssnik wrote:On February 18 2012 22:52 Vira wrote:On February 18 2012 22:50 Ssnik wrote:Millenium, why isn't there an English stream available? You could double or triple the number of viewers easily. Yes, but french sponsor, soo... And Homestory Cup has German sponsors, soo... The weird thing with the french people and brands is, that they dont really care much for anything outside of france. They listen only to french music, only dirnk french wine etc etc, so its not that surprising they dont care much for an english stream. Thats not supposed to b e an insult, but thats my expirience with france
You really want me to drink english wine ?
I'm kidding , but still foreign wine ?
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On February 18 2012 23:04 Gevna wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 22:56 Tarotis wrote:On February 18 2012 22:54 Ssnik wrote:On February 18 2012 22:52 Vira wrote:On February 18 2012 22:50 Ssnik wrote:Millenium, why isn't there an English stream available? You could double or triple the number of viewers easily. Yes, but french sponsor, soo... And Homestory Cup has German sponsors, soo... The weird thing with the french people and brands is, that they dont really care much for anything outside of france. They listen only to french music, only dirnk french wine etc etc, so its not that surprising they dont care much for an english stream. Thats not supposed to b e an insult, but thats my expirience with france You really want me to drink english wine ? I'm kidding , but still foreign wine ?
Dude! Swiss wine is far better than the french one :D
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On February 18 2012 23:05 Tycondryus wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 23:04 Gevna wrote:On February 18 2012 22:56 Tarotis wrote:On February 18 2012 22:54 Ssnik wrote:On February 18 2012 22:52 Vira wrote:On February 18 2012 22:50 Ssnik wrote:Millenium, why isn't there an English stream available? You could double or triple the number of viewers easily. Yes, but french sponsor, soo... And Homestory Cup has German sponsors, soo... The weird thing with the french people and brands is, that they dont really care much for anything outside of france. They listen only to french music, only dirnk french wine etc etc, so its not that surprising they dont care much for an english stream. Thats not supposed to b e an insult, but thats my expirience with france You really want me to drink english wine ? I'm kidding , but still foreign wine ? Dude! Swiss wine is far better than the french one :D
Aarrrg... I'm dying!
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On February 18 2012 22:56 Tarotis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 22:54 Ssnik wrote:On February 18 2012 22:52 Vira wrote:On February 18 2012 22:50 Ssnik wrote:Millenium, why isn't there an English stream available? You could double or triple the number of viewers easily. Yes, but french sponsor, soo... And Homestory Cup has German sponsors, soo... The weird thing with the french people and brands is, that they dont really care much for anything outside of france. They listen only to french music, only dirnk french wine etc etc, so its not that surprising they dont care much for an english stream. Thats not supposed to b e an insult, but thats my expirience with france
A russian stream asked to stream, and it was ok. If english and deutch streamer are not aware as the russian one, it's not the fault of millenium. Plus it's a event for french mainly, it's not millenium who is going to search for streamer, so if you could think before to write something ...
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he just said there's a russian stream because the russian caster said he really wanted to stream this
instead of bashing french because they didn't think about contacting english casters, maybe you should consider english casters didn't think of contacting millenium because they don't think much of french events?
don't misunderstand me, i think there should be a english cast for this, but organizing such a tournament alone is already enough trouble, it's a lot of effort to contact every known caster for this (with many refusing, or giving late response, and other being less famous)
i guess the best way to do it would have been to make a public announcement for this on TL a month ago, but then again, it might have been unnoticed
On February 18 2012 23:05 Tycondryus wrote:
Dude! Swiss wine is far better than the french one :D
i requested a ban for this
last edit: if i remember correctly, last time millenium's captain (never managed to catch his name) organized a cool event, there was english caster turning in to ask to cast during the event
it started with french and russian stream, and ended with two more in english and german
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On February 18 2012 23:06 ArnaudF wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 23:05 Tycondryus wrote:On February 18 2012 23:04 Gevna wrote:On February 18 2012 22:56 Tarotis wrote:On February 18 2012 22:54 Ssnik wrote:On February 18 2012 22:52 Vira wrote:On February 18 2012 22:50 Ssnik wrote:Millenium, why isn't there an English stream available? You could double or triple the number of viewers easily. Yes, but french sponsor, soo... And Homestory Cup has German sponsors, soo... The weird thing with the french people and brands is, that they dont really care much for anything outside of france. They listen only to french music, only dirnk french wine etc etc, so its not that surprising they dont care much for an english stream. Thats not supposed to b e an insult, but thats my expirience with france You really want me to drink english wine ? I'm kidding , but still foreign wine ? Dude! Swiss wine is far better than the french one :D Aarrrg... I'm dying!
Really? I'm sure you never tried it! Wine form La Côte, Lavaux or Valais! Are really famous and good
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I'm not used to French casting anymore; it's weird hearing the caster referring to forcefields as icecubes.
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On February 18 2012 23:06 Makro wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 22:56 Tarotis wrote:On February 18 2012 22:54 Ssnik wrote:On February 18 2012 22:52 Vira wrote:On February 18 2012 22:50 Ssnik wrote:Millenium, why isn't there an English stream available? You could double or triple the number of viewers easily. Yes, but french sponsor, soo... And Homestory Cup has German sponsors, soo... The weird thing with the french people and brands is, that they dont really care much for anything outside of france. They listen only to french music, only dirnk french wine etc etc, so its not that surprising they dont care much for an english stream. Thats not supposed to b e an insult, but thats my expirience with france A russian stream asked to stream, and it was ok. If english and deutch streamer are not aware as the russian one, it's not the fault of millenium. Plus it's a event for french mainly, it's not millenium who is going to search for streamer, so if you could think before to write something ...
My posts should say that millenium didnt try to get any casters and ask them if they want to ask, because they just dont care. Some tournaments do so.
Its funny that Tarson is playing the same build as Virus plays in the KSL at the exact same time :D
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On February 18 2012 23:09 Tycondryus wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 23:06 ArnaudF wrote:On February 18 2012 23:05 Tycondryus wrote:On February 18 2012 23:04 Gevna wrote:On February 18 2012 22:56 Tarotis wrote:On February 18 2012 22:54 Ssnik wrote:On February 18 2012 22:52 Vira wrote:On February 18 2012 22:50 Ssnik wrote:Millenium, why isn't there an English stream available? You could double or triple the number of viewers easily. Yes, but french sponsor, soo... And Homestory Cup has German sponsors, soo... The weird thing with the french people and brands is, that they dont really care much for anything outside of france. They listen only to french music, only dirnk french wine etc etc, so its not that surprising they dont care much for an english stream. Thats not supposed to b e an insult, but thats my expirience with france You really want me to drink english wine ? I'm kidding , but still foreign wine ? Dude! Swiss wine is far better than the french one :D Aarrrg... I'm dying! Really? I'm sure you never tried it! Wine form La Côte, Lavaux or Valais! Are really famous and good
I'm from Savoie, next to the border, I can even make a quick jump there to taste it! :D
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On February 18 2012 23:10 ArnaudF wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 23:09 Tycondryus wrote:On February 18 2012 23:06 ArnaudF wrote:On February 18 2012 23:05 Tycondryus wrote:On February 18 2012 23:04 Gevna wrote:On February 18 2012 22:56 Tarotis wrote:On February 18 2012 22:54 Ssnik wrote:On February 18 2012 22:52 Vira wrote:On February 18 2012 22:50 Ssnik wrote:Millenium, why isn't there an English stream available? You could double or triple the number of viewers easily. Yes, but french sponsor, soo... And Homestory Cup has German sponsors, soo... The weird thing with the french people and brands is, that they dont really care much for anything outside of france. They listen only to french music, only dirnk french wine etc etc, so its not that surprising they dont care much for an english stream. Thats not supposed to b e an insult, but thats my expirience with france You really want me to drink english wine ? I'm kidding , but still foreign wine ? Dude! Swiss wine is far better than the french one :D Aarrrg... I'm dying! Really? I'm sure you never tried it! Wine form La Côte, Lavaux or Valais! Are really famous and good I'm from Savoie, next to the border, I can even make a quick jump there to taste it! :D
Feel free to come! I'll make you taste wine
(and don't take me wrong, I never said Bordeau and other really tastefull french wine aren't good )
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this caster has some serious wpm
le zélot!
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Wow tanks working in TvP you don't see that everyday
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Tarson takes the win
Tarson 1 - 0 BlinG
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tarson improved so much recently, i hope he can put something nice against stephano if he go that far
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On February 18 2012 23:14 Paperplane wrote:
Wow tanks working in TvP you don't see that everyday
BlinG should have spread out his units and focus fired the tanks with his immortals. He did neither and so he died
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tarson doing MMA special tactics xD
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I don't understand why bling took that fight, maybe he hoped the tanks would still be unsieged?
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Image is freezing during part of the stream (mostly mid/late game and big fights) while sound works fine. Am I the only one with the problem ? Is there a way to fix this ?
Edit : talking about the french/dailymotion stream, I guess I'll switch to Dignitas if that's better....
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english stream from dignitas now
On February 18 2012 23:08 DOUDOU wrote:
last edit: if i remember correctly, last time millenium's captain (never managed to catch his name) organized a cool event, there was english caster turning in to ask to cast during the event
it started with french and russian stream, and ended with two more in english and german
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streaming... but not casting?
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On February 18 2012 23:17 DOUDOU wrote:english stream from dignitas now Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 23:08 DOUDOU wrote:
last edit: if i remember correctly, last time millenium's captain (never managed to catch his name) organized a cool event, there was english caster turning in to ask to cast during the event
it started with french and russian stream, and ended with two more in english and german
His name is Llewellys (and he is only the sc2 team mannager and the sc2 milleniumtv mannager )
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I dunno, but if we listen lot Korean commentary, then the French will do, too!
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huge supply block for bling not building any probe for 40s at the 6mn mark......after watching him play for the past two months i thought he was an obvious contender for 2nd place.....guess hes having an off day
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I guess the english caster has his mic muted by accident?
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On February 18 2012 23:24 Youtakenocandle wrote:
I guess the english caster has his mic muted by accident?
Nah, under the Stream it says : Update: Currently there is no Caster (i'm just streamer).
edit: Lol and of course he starts using the mic as soon as i wrote that
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Tarson suicides his banshees, BlinG takes the win!
Tarson 1 - 1 BlinG
emraa: Yups, he won 2-0 vs Kenzy in Ro8
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That french guy is so amazing.
Not to mention i have no idea what he's saying, it's like watching Korean SC:BW live match
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Why are players attending a live offline event for a 1st place prize of 500€. Arent traveling costs alone more expensive?
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On February 18 2012 23:30 Skillver wrote:
Why are players attending a live offline event for a 1st place prize of 500€. Arent traveling costs alone more expensive?
2k for the 1st place, 500 for the 2nd.
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On February 18 2012 23:30 Skillver wrote:
Why are players attending a live offline event for a 1st place prize of 500€. Arent traveling costs alone more expensive?
1st place prize is 2000€.
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On February 18 2012 23:30 Skillver wrote:
Why are players attending a live offline event for a 1st place prize of 500€. Arent traveling costs alone more expensive?
If i'm right the travel costs are paid by millenium!
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Nice, there is english casting now.
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On February 18 2012 23:31 Ssnik wrote:
1st place is 2000!
Thanks
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and the guy who had to travel the most is grubby.a rotterdam paris train ticket costs from 40 to 70 euros.
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On February 18 2012 22:56 Tarotis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 22:54 Ssnik wrote:On February 18 2012 22:52 Vira wrote:On February 18 2012 22:50 Ssnik wrote:Millenium, why isn't there an English stream available? You could double or triple the number of viewers easily. Yes, but french sponsor, soo... And Homestory Cup has German sponsors, soo... The weird thing with the french people and brands is, that they dont really care much for anything outside of france. They listen only to french music
:bigfacepalm:
Yeah right, on every band world tour map, there is a big X on France for "Let's not go there, they don't listen to our music".. AC DC sold out 80 000 places in 15 seconds when they came to France last year. That's just an example.
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Yeah whatever, France is all Yelle and Gainsbourg. Admit it!
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is the caster some french wolf? whats with that howl
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On February 18 2012 23:41 theBALLS wrote:
is the caster some french wolf? whats with that howl
Somebody in the crowd shouted sthg and he answered w/ that howl xD
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Wow the caster just creamed his pants at those storms :D
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On February 18 2012 23:41 theBALLS wrote:
is the caster some french wolf? whats with that howl
someone said something in the audience, couldn't understand what, i'd say shoutout to tarson
also, according to liewelietaver, everything against terran is OP :D
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oh god I have to mute it
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tbh ive got nerdchills everytime bling pulls out his warp prism storms...
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Bling is wasting an opportunity !!
He hit 200/200 when tarson was at 157/200.... Now Tarson is 182/200 and very soon 200/200 -_- !! Pff ridiculous.
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On February 18 2012 23:45 Lasbike wrote:
Bling is wasting an opportunity !!
He hit 200/200 when tarson was at 157/200.... Now Tarson is 182/200 and very soon 200/200 -_- !!
bling is banking money,just warp in 15 blink stalkers mid battle and thats it
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Bling trying really hard to lose :/
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Tarson 1-2 BlinG
next match: Stephano vs BlinG !
EDIT/ The score was wrong xD
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tarson gave away 10 ghosts
?? they're playing semi finals before being done with quarter?
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On February 18 2012 23:48 Tycondryus wrote:
Tarson 2-1 BlinG
next match: Stephano vs BlinG !
Tarson 1-2 Bling
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Great game, bling has great late game. Lost 2 nexus, a dropship filled with templare but made 25 gateways and had 3 robo bays + 3-3 and chrono on shield upgrade.
Fantastic.
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On February 18 2012 23:49 DOUDOU wrote:
tarson gave away 10 ghosts
?? they're playing semi finals before being done with quarter?
Yes they do
I don't really know why but they do!
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On February 18 2012 23:49 s.a.y wrote:
Great game, bling has great late game. Lost 2 nexus, a dropship filled with templare but made 25 gateways and had 3 robo bays + 3-3 and chrono on shield upgrade.
Fantastic.
MaNa made this mass gateway style in lategame PvT popular in the eu, if you are interested int his fact
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On February 18 2012 23:49 DOUDOU wrote:
tarson gave away 10 ghosts
?? they're playing semi finals before being done with quarter?
Yes, that's something Lewellys do quite often (on MSI pro cup too..).
He always plays quarter #1, #2 and semi #1. Then quarter #3, #4 and semi #2.
I don't know why..
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is there some kind of beef between bling and tarson?the caster just said that tarson might not shake blings hand,and the players facial expressions were pretty agressive oO
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Do Sarens and Adel also practice in the Millenium house?
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On February 18 2012 23:51 cyclone25 wrote:
Do Sarens and Adel also practice in the Millenium house?
Adel does.
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He played it out wonky, taking quite some risk after being very far ahead. Maybe he focuses a bit too much on the prism-storm drop, his attention seems to be not quite where it should be. Also, take your advantage and just kill him. 3-3 zealots vs 1-1 MM is the real a-move of this game
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On February 18 2012 23:51 Lasbike wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 23:49 DOUDOU wrote:
tarson gave away 10 ghosts
?? they're playing semi finals before being done with quarter? Yes, that's something Lewellys do quite often (on MSI pro cup too..). He always plays quarter #1, #2 and semi #1. Then quarter #3, #4 and semi #2. I don't know why..
When it's online, it's to have the player waiting the less possible!
But for an offline event like this, I don't know
EDIT/ cyclone25: SarenS is not a Millenium player He trains at his team cybercafé !
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On February 18 2012 23:49 Tycondryus wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 23:49 DOUDOU wrote:
tarson gave away 10 ghosts
?? they're playing semi finals before being done with quarter? Yes they do I don't really know why but they do!
There are 4 computers, one for stephano, one for kenzy, one for tarson and one for bling after the 2 quarters final they play the first demi because the materials are ready so he won too many times
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On February 18 2012 23:51 clementdudu wrote:
is there some kind of beef between bling and tarson?the caster just said that tarson might not shake blings hand,and the players facial expressions were pretty agressive oO
dont think so
i mean they live in the same house for quite some time and i think i saw them fooling around on stream too
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Stephano vs Bling starting now. If they both play like they've been playing the last 2 weeks during practice, Stephano should have this.
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8mn71 drones......game over
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Waw...Bling got destroyed.
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Stephano 1 - 0 BlinG
BlinG hasn't made enought pressure on stephano in early game, letting Steph on b4 vs his b2.
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On February 18 2012 23:51 Tarotis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2012 23:49 s.a.y wrote:
Great game, bling has great late game. Lost 2 nexus, a dropship filled with templare but made 25 gateways and had 3 robo bays + 3-3 and chrono on shield upgrade.
Fantastic. MaNa made this mass gateway style in lategame PvT popular in the eu, if you are interested int his fact
It was the standard style in SC:BW PvT lategame also, with Carriers and mass gateways. Mana just sticked to the same style.
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Nice place and nice crowd
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It's soon up again and the game has been restarded!
(Yogo doesn't succeed in typing his log-in info on an AZERTY keyboard xD)
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Maxed out before the 12 minute mark, what dafuq.
Bling may have already lost this.
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200 supply at 12 minutes for Stephano.
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Stephano maxed at 12:00 ? :o
Never saw someone maxing out so fast, rofl
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BlinG is too passive!
Even w/ really nice FF & good micro he cannot hold.
Stephano 2 - 0 BlinG, stephano goes to the final!
next match: Adelscott vs ELVIS
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On February 19 2012 00:23 Tycondryus wrote:
BlinG is too passive!
It's hard to be aggressive vs Stephano, Grubby tried 3 different pressure/harass builds vs him and lost 0-3 because he got very behind since he did no damage.
Stephano is the perfect player :<
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Immortals are good vs. Stephano. Really good.
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That attack never stopped a second for like 7 minutes.
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Stephano having some fun.
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On February 19 2012 00:26 cyclone25 wrote:It's hard to be aggressive vs Stephano, Grubby tried 3 different pressure/harass builds vs him and lost 0-3 because he got very behind since he did no damage. Stephano is the perfect player :<
Come on, I really like Stephano, but that's just crazy hyperbole.
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bling 's macro a bit off
so many times he had money and supply to build more immortals he didn't
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On February 19 2012 00:28 MCDayC wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 00:26 cyclone25 wrote:On February 19 2012 00:23 Tycondryus wrote:
BlinG is too passive!
It's hard to be aggressive vs Stephano, Grubby tried 3 different pressure/harass builds vs him and lost 0-3 because he got very behind since he did no damage. Stephano is the perfect player :< Come on, I really like Stephano, but that's just crazy hyperbole.
cyclone25 is the guy who screamed everywhere that foreigners were better than koreans, don't be surprised
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If bling had been able to spend his money, he could have held. Nice play, and his sentries survived for so long. But also very impressive macro-while-attacking-and-microing by stephano.
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"I want to meet grubby in final, because he is a protoss, so easy to beat"
Ok.
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lol : "I'd like to meet Grubby, he's a protoss, it's easy to beat so..."
troll forever xD
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"which of the four other player would you rather play in final?
stephano:
-grubby, because he's protoss and easy to win against"
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He already starts the mind games vs Grubby  .
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I can sense idra raging in the background
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On February 19 2012 00:29 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 00:28 MCDayC wrote:On February 19 2012 00:26 cyclone25 wrote:On February 19 2012 00:23 Tycondryus wrote:
BlinG is too passive!
It's hard to be aggressive vs Stephano, Grubby tried 3 different pressure/harass builds vs him and lost 0-3 because he got very behind since he did no damage. Stephano is the perfect player :< Come on, I really like Stephano, but that's just crazy hyperbole. cyclone25 is the guy who screamed everywhere that foreigners were better than koreans, don't be surprised
I didn't said that they are better, lol. Just that the skill gap at top level is very small.
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Grubby hasn't win yet guys
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15 min pause
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lol stephano said i want play vs grubby he's protoss its easy lol
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i could see steph not dropping a single map ....
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how can u max out that fast haha sicko id love to see a grubby vs stephano final with stephano winning he is just so good since he is in the teamhouse
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Why are there ads during the match? :/
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No wonder that people hype stephano that much, the amount of supply blocks every other player has is ugly :X
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adelscott's macro is really bad and his micro not good either.
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On February 19 2012 01:15 dragonborn wrote:
adelscott's macro is really bad and his micro not good either.
Elvis isnt playing any better though
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That's what happens when zerg dont have burrow upgrade against blink stalker all in.
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Too bad they have some connections
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The french stream is a disaster unfortunately. No possible choice of image resolution - so for us with max 400k/s (yeah i know, but it still exists) it lags regularly, where's the 360 button !?!. And admins disconnecting every second or third game don't help either. I'm forced to watch Dignitas's stream to avoid the lag, it's good too but it lacks the crowd reaction and player cams, which adds a lot to the french stream. Disappointing.
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Wat happened to Adelscot :\
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On February 19 2012 01:29 Eurekastreet wrote:
The french stream is a disaster unfortunately. No possible choice of image resolution - so for us with max 400k/s (yeah i know, but it still exists) it lags regularly, where's the 360 button !?!. And admins disconnecting every second or third game don't help either. I'm forced to watch Dignitas's stream to avoid the lag, it's good too but it lacks the crowd reaction and player cams, which adds a lot to the french stream. Disappointing.
Their partner is dailymotion who doesn't allow for multiple qualities options, it's not their fault lol.
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On February 19 2012 01:29 Eurekastreet wrote:
The french stream is a disaster unfortunately. No possible choice of image resolution - so for us with max 400k/s (yeah i know, but it still exists) it lags regularly, where's the 360 button !?!. And admins disconnecting every second or third game don't help either. I'm forced to watch Dignitas's stream to avoid the lag, it's good too but it lacks the crowd reaction and player cams, which adds a lot to the french stream. Disappointing.
Agreed, Dailymotion player sucks for this! It's only one resolution and you have no other choices but it's an known issue... Anyway they have partner ship w/ dailymotion so it won't change.
For the admin disconnection, this is really sad, And I don't get why it only occures w/ Llewellys' PC ...
Too bad!
Anyway,
Adelscott 1 - 1 ELVIS
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I have to say, this is a really bad tournament (from the organisation-side). The stream is shutting down so often, its kinda delayed. they didnt even allow me as a streamer from the biggest german sc2-scenepage, but allowed russian streams. really, really disappointing. at the cast they dont even have overlays or nothing, so sad.
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On February 19 2012 01:36 HuKPOWA wrote:
Wat happened to Adelscot :\
ELVIS is not a noob tbh He played the last game really well :
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On February 19 2012 01:36 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 01:29 Eurekastreet wrote:
The french stream is a disaster unfortunately. No possible choice of image resolution - so for us with max 400k/s (yeah i know, but it still exists) it lags regularly, where's the 360 button !?!. And admins disconnecting every second or third game don't help either. I'm forced to watch Dignitas's stream to avoid the lag, it's good too but it lacks the crowd reaction and player cams, which adds a lot to the french stream. Disappointing. Their partner is dailymotion who doesn't allow for multiple qualities options, it's not their fault lol.
I know that, I'm not blaming someone in particular, just pick another stream partner or ask Dailymotion to add that option, it can't be impossible if they want to please their viewers (I'd love to watch the french stream and give them the ad revenue but it's impossible right now).
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On February 19 2012 01:14 Tarotis wrote:
No wonder that people hype stephano that much, the amount of supply blocks every other player has is ugly :X
Did you come all way to this topic only to spit on the players/the tournament ?
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On February 19 2012 01:36 Poopi wrote:
Their partner is dailymotion who doesn't allow for multiple qualities options, it's not their fault lol.
it's their fault for choosing dailymotion
no matter how much money they throw in the team, dailymotion is already bad as a video viewer, and is terrible for streaming
daily should put some money to R&D instead, so they could have a decent player
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Stream has been offline for the past 5 minutes, right?
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On February 19 2012 01:40 DOUDOU wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 01:36 Poopi wrote:
Their partner is dailymotion who doesn't allow for multiple qualities options, it's not their fault lol. it's their fault for choosing dailymotion no matter how much money they throw in the team, dailymotion is already bad as a video viewer, and is terrible for streaming daily should put some money to R&D instead, so they could have a decent player
Since most people rather complain than pay, the amount of money they throw in the team is very relevant..
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On February 19 2012 01:39 dyNa wrote:
I have to say, this is a really bad tournament (from the organisation-side). The stream is shutting down so often, its kinda delayed. they didnt even allow me as a streamer from the biggest german sc2-scenepage, but allowed russian streams. really, really disappointing. at the cast they dont even have overlays or nothing, so sad.
Have you asked to be a streamer?
And on four hour of stream there has been four interruptions ... I don't think it's the definition of "so often" anyway, I'm sorry if you are frustrated or sthg like that...
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just watch the english stream
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ofc i asked them well if you organize a tournament like that, you have to check in before, if everything is right. just take a loot at the homestorycup, how often did the stream broke? ..
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On February 19 2012 01:40 Eshra wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 01:14 Tarotis wrote:
No wonder that people hype stephano that much, the amount of supply blocks every other player has is ugly :X Did you come all way to this topic only to spit on the players/the tournament ?
Ofc, I have nothing else to do all day long!
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On February 19 2012 01:51 dyNa wrote:ofc i asked them well if you organize a tournament like that, you have to check in before, if everything is right. just take a loot at the homestorycup, how often did the stream broke? ..
Hmm, HSC III had a lot of issues with the stream, not sure about this exemple.
Problems happen to every tournaments, even if it's bad for viewers, we shoudn't blame so hard people who work hard.
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How can SarenS lose that ?
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On February 19 2012 02:33 dafunk wrote:
How can SarenS lose that ?
Grubby tends to play like a god as soon as he gets behind in PvT :p, amazing decision making.
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On February 19 2012 02:33 dafunk wrote:
How can SarenS lose that ?
He had a PF at third thus bad income, and 6 rax with tech lab and only one with reactor.
I don't know why he did not make more marines facilities :X
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On February 19 2012 02:34 Valikyr wrote:Grubby tends to play like a god as soon as he gets behind in PvT :p, amazing decision making.
A better player would have finished it easily though.
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Sarens had a couple of minutes where he could have attacked, but once he waits for further upgrades and storm to finish for the protoss he just auto-loses
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Really liking the Dignitas stream. Good caster and music.
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Looks like a great location they have there.
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HAHA *the winner of this semi finals will get second place*
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On February 19 2012 02:56 Weavel wrote:Really liking the Dignitas stream. Good caster and music.
Just want to second this.Thanks for providing an english stream!
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i just hate phoenix in pvp,youre sacrificing so much for it...
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Sick sick PvP between Adel and Grubby.
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French caster is horrible. Hi, show Grubby in the bottom as well?
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Will grubby be able to overcome his Stephano curse ?
:3
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Adels greedyness will pay off I think
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Impressed with Grubby! Love that guy!
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Speechless. Grubby is such a monster when it comes to micro O.O...
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Adel handled his defense very well, but he was outmaneuvered at Grubby's base. If he'd used cascade micro over aggressive blinks his advantage would have carried him through I think.
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Those 2 games were more Adel loss than Grubby's win...he was ahead on both and took horrible fights on both...way too commited on his pushes, he should learn to pull back sometimes -.-
Grubby vs Stephano, bo5...considering Grubby still hasn't won a game against Stephano in an official match (or maybe 1 ?), I'm interested to see what Grubby has prepared...
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Is there a 3rd place match?
Also, Stephano is 14-1 in map score vs Grubby since October :D
I like them both, hope it goes to a game 5 this time!
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On February 19 2012 01:39 dyNa wrote:
I have to say, this is a really bad tournament (from the organisation-side). The stream is shutting down so often, its kinda delayed. they didnt even allow me as a streamer from the biggest german sc2-scenepage, but allowed russian streams. really, really disappointing. at the cast they dont even have overlays or nothing, so sad.
You're not in, so the tournament is really bad ? There's stream issues for a lot of tournaments. And tbh, overlays are most of the time annoying.
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So cool that Grubby gets more and more chances to challenge Europe's Number 1 already. He is a fast learner and I'm sure at some point he will be able truely put some pressure on Stephano.
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what is up with this goblin-_-
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On February 19 2012 03:34 cyclone25 wrote:
Is there a 3rd place match?
Also, Stephano is 14-1 in map score vs Grubby since October :D
I like them both, hope it goes to a game 5 this time!
There is a 3rd place match, Adel vs Bling (pvp >.<)
It's unlikely it reaches the fifth map, either Grubby prepared some special tactics and will win 3 0 or 3 1, or Stephano will roll him 3 0 as usual
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On February 19 2012 03:34 Ylrahc wrote:Those 2 games were more Adel loss than Grubby's win...he was ahead on both and took horrible fights on both...way too commited on his pushes, he should learn to pull back sometimes -.- Grubby vs Stephano, bo5...considering Grubby still hasn't won a game against Stephano in an official match, I'm interested to see what Grubby has prepare...
Adel didn't just throw his games away, Grubby really showed he was the more skilled player with his amazing harass/multi-task that Adel just couldn't handle. Just because Adel expanded earlier and gained the advantage first doesn't mean it was his game to lose more than Grubby's to win.
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On February 19 2012 03:39 -_- wrote:
what is up with this goblin-_-
Millenium staff. Can't really get it if you never watch their TV though.
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Lol giving SWTOR T-shirts at an event with Blizzard guys attending ? Ahahahahaaha.
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could someone who understands french please explain the point of this large man with the painted red face and prosthetic nose?
E: "Millenium staff. Can't really get it if you never watch their TV though."
thank you Eshra
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On February 19 2012 03:42 -_- wrote:
could someone who understands french please explain the point of this large man with the painted red face and prosthetic nose?
E: "Millenium staff. Can't really get it if you never watch their TV though."
It's nothing. Just nerdy guys throwing bad jokes. Pretty sad.
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i love listening to this guy. my 3 years in french barely helps at all but its somewhat entertaining
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On February 19 2012 03:42 -_- wrote:
could someone who understands french please explain the point of this large man with the painted red face and prosthetic nose?
E: "Millenium staff. Can't really get it if you never watch their TV though."
thank you Eshra
He often tries new game on the Millenium Web TV while being dressed like the main character of the game he's playing.
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On February 19 2012 03:42 -_- wrote:
could someone who understands french please explain the point of this large man with the painted red face and prosthetic nose?
E: "Millenium staff. Can't really get it if you never watch their TV though."
thank you Eshra
He purposefully acted so badly, a bit like a parody of the typical hot girl you usually see (ugly, speaking ununderstandable French...) at these ceremonies, that it ended up being somewhat funny.
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Not very funny, even when you understand french, but the organization team wants to thanks people who make donation to the event
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On February 19 2012 03:40 Yoduh wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 03:34 Ylrahc wrote:Those 2 games were more Adel loss than Grubby's win...he was ahead on both and took horrible fights on both...way too commited on his pushes, he should learn to pull back sometimes -.- Grubby vs Stephano, bo5...considering Grubby still hasn't won a game against Stephano in an official match, I'm interested to see what Grubby has prepare... Adel didn't just throw his games away, Grubby really showed he was the more skilled player with his amazing harass/multi-task that Adel just couldn't handle. Just because Adel expanded earlier and gained the advantage first doesn't mean it was his game to lose more than Grubby's to win.
I never said I considered Adel better than Grubby. Grubby is better, micro and macrowise, no doubt about that. I just said the first who gained a significant advantage was Adel, in both games, and it was because of better openings and decision makings in the early stages of the game. That means against a protoss who doesn't throw his advantage away, Grubby would have lost both games, which is why I consider him a bit lucky. He recognized himself on stage, and to me is a proof he is still nowhere near top level.
That said, I hope he can (finally) give Stephano a run for his money, and he definitly has his chances. He is smart, and I bet he has prepared some tactics for this match, as it was more or less obvious from the start he would face Stephano in the final.
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hot chicks dancing in a car on the english stream.
lolwut.
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On February 19 2012 03:52 Yoduh wrote:
hot chicks dancing in a car on the english stream.
lolwut. reminds me of watching GOM
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I dont get much, but then again I just tuned in^^
A guy with his face painted, a wheel of fortune-like thing going on with prices for the audience... and some kind of food?
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Just re-joined, anyone knows when's the next match (and is the final ?)
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On February 19 2012 03:56 AlternativeEgo wrote:
I see panties. :3
Where?!
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On February 19 2012 04:05 Leetley wrote:Where?!
I know the answer to that one : everywhere!
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On February 19 2012 04:00 awha wrote:
I dont get much, but then again I just tuned in^^
A guy with his face painted, a wheel of fortune-like thing going on with prices for the audience... and some kind of food?
Basically : Millenium sets different kind of tickets for the event. There's the standard ticket. Then, you can pay a little more to donate to help them in order to organize bigger events. There's also a third ticket which is more expensive.
Millenium has some prizes they share with those who bought the second and third kind of tickets. ( they even have a computer to give )
Edit : The food comes from the first LAN Millenium organized. A guy had a big cake cooked for the event. They gave a piece for each winner of the wheel of fortune.
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On February 19 2012 04:07 Eshra wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 04:00 awha wrote:
I dont get much, but then again I just tuned in^^
A guy with his face painted, a wheel of fortune-like thing going on with prices for the audience... and some kind of food? Basically : Millenium sets different kind of tickets for the event. There's the standard ticket. Then, you can paye a little more to donate to help them in order to organize bigger events. There's also a third ticket which is more expensive. Millenium has some prizes they share with those who bought the second and third kind of tickets. ( they even have a computer to give ) Edit : The food comes from the first LAN Millenium organized. A guy had a big cake cooked for the event. They gave a piece for each winner of the wheel of fortune.
ahh okay, that makes sense then thanks for the input
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Ahah this Fabrice guy who missed on the limited edition battlecruiser, no luck.... they will give out the PC then roll again to give it to someone else.. :D
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In 45 min we will have the match for the third place (bling vs adel), then after that the final (stephano vs grubby).
Meanwhile, some showmatchs will be plaid.
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Everyone is going outside, the 3rd place match will be a streetfight!
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On February 19 2012 04:15 SiroKO wrote:
In 45 min we will have the match for the third place (bling vs adel), then after that the final (stephano vs grubby).
45 mins and the players are already sitting there?
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On February 19 2012 04:16 Leetley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 04:15 SiroKO wrote:
In 45 min we will have the match for the third place (bling vs adel), then after that the final (stephano vs grubby). 45 mins and the players are already sitting there?
This is a fun 2v2 featuring french good players in the audience. ( SonG and AureS )
Edit : Nevermind, it's a 1v1. AureS vs. SonG.
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Any idea of the time of the final? Or any sort of schedule?
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45 mn before the 3rd place match i believe. Or maybe just after that game.
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3rd place match will be play in 30-35 minutes. Final will be just after.
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I'm excited for finals..... another Grubby vs Stephano clash! ^^
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Final is now? Why are they showing Stephano warming up?
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Trololol bo1 consolation final in PvP.
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On February 19 2012 04:37 Slardar wrote:
I'm excited for finals..... another Grubby vs Stephano clash! ^^
Problem is Stephano has something like 95% winratio vs Grubby, he's the player Grubby's got the most trouble with of all.
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"wp my dude"
well that game sucked -.-
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The 200€ BO1 goes to Adelscott! :D
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Ha, player of the showmatch changed the settings on Grubby's computer so they have to restart the first game.
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grubby winning this finals,calling it!
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So...Did grubby have enough space to build that 3rd nexus ?
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On February 19 2012 05:13 clementdudu wrote:
grubby winning this finals,calling it!
Not going that way for now...
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On February 19 2012 05:13 clementdudu wrote:
grubby winning this finals,calling it!
Don't be silly, haha!
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dont think so
i expect another trip to the bank ....
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stephano played g1 fucking flawless. no mistake just 100% flawless holy shit. grubby had so good forcefields and traded so well. But it was kinda over after his first aggression. scary scary stephano. love it!
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Why did Grubby not build a nexus at his 2nd expansion? Not enough space? He had about 1k mineral after the attack on Stephanos 3rd expansion.
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On February 19 2012 05:22 Lasbike wrote:
So...Did grubby have enough space to build that 3rd nexus ?
Maybe it was a fake out into an allin? I don't really know
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Why didn't grubby land the b3 ? it was a fake b3 to push right after ? or he was lacking space ?
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not enough space probably,and decided to all in once he realised it.
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Aren't t the players able to hear the commentators? Stephano would have an advantage then.
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On February 19 2012 05:23 R3m3mb3rM3 wrote:
stephano played g1 fucking flawless. no mistake just 100% flawless holy shit. grubby had so good forcefields and traded so well. But it was kinda over after his first aggression. scary scary stephano. love it!
his macro is insane.. before the 12 minute mark he is saturated on 3 base, taking his fourth and maxing out on well upgraded roach hydra... although there came early agression from grubby.. lovin to watch stephano's zerg )
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Do you really think Grubby can make such a mistake? I'm pretty sure it was an attempt to fool Stephano.
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I don't know how you can win against Stephano in a PvZ.
Everything the protoss player can do / try is easily denied. Then stephano just overwhelms his opponent.
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good thing i kept the english stream
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On February 19 2012 05:25 Psyclon wrote:
Do you really think Grubby can make such a mistake? I'm pretty sure it was an attempt to fool Stephano.
Don't think so, fake 3rd + hallucination, I think he was trying to go for a 2 base push but vs such a macro machine as Stephano, I guess you need to be agressive way faster than that....or ?
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On February 19 2012 05:26 Gevna wrote:
I don't know how you can win against Stephano in a PvZ.
Well, in Korea, MC won every single time he played Stephano (Ladder / Practice or official matchs), so i'd say : Play like Mc.
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On February 19 2012 05:25 Psyclon wrote:
Do you really think Grubby can make such a mistake? I'm pretty sure it was an attempt to fool Stephano.
i second that. Grubby invested alot in his first push which did 0 damage in total. he wouldnt have any chance getting close to stephanos macro anymore if he took a third. i mean grubby had 2 base when stephano had 3 base saturated with map controle and bigger army. it kinda was his last effort allin.
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On February 19 2012 05:28 Lasbike wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 05:26 Gevna wrote:
I don't know how you can win against Stephano in a PvZ.
Well, in Korea, MC won every single time he played Stephano (Ladder / Practice or official matchs), so i'd say : Play like Mc.
Not true! Stephano got a win! It was ZvZ though
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I just tested it in a custom game. With the wall-off Grubby did at his B3, there isn't enough space for a nexus anymore (in any of the four positions).
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grubby didnt make his third during this.. he is floating 1k ..
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this is sad to watch as Grubby's fan but Stephano is just outplaying him so hard :/
i feel like Grubby needs something surprising in next map, it will be 3-0 otherwise :X
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Ugh he's getting crushed.
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This isn't even a contest :/
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Anyone else has "Connection lost"?
Edit: Nevermind.
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A stephano who's been practicing a match-up is pretty scary
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not the best event for dailymotions streaming
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stephano is the first foreign bonjwa in sc2.
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Stephano is just too good for Grubby right now.
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How come Stephano vs Grubby always endup 10x more onesided than it should on paper? :/
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On February 19 2012 05:38 m0ck wrote:
A stephano who's been practicing a match-up is pretty scary
It's been a while since he lost a map in this matchup :D
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Perfect tournament, lets go!
This just shows how talented Stephano is. I would go as far to say he is the best zerg in the world at the moment. But not by much ^_^
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Wow...the 2nd map was close to perfect play from Stephano. Sick macro, sick multitasking, nice strategy going for drops considering the map, that was beautiful to watch.
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Man watching just how good Stephano is, makes me hope he reconsiders his plan to stop this fall. I mean he is so damn good.
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That was a pretty sick attack by Stephano. Drop in the main while burrow moving roaches through the forcefields at the front.
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Stephano 13-1 Grubby atm, 14-1 is Stephano wins this map ><
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Stephano just got a call from his bookmaker to let grubby win the next two games to maximize his betting wins. :D
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Grubby needs to be more stringent with his macro to stand a chance against Stephano. Again he had close to 1k minerals when he did his blink stalker push. Just put these minerals into a 2nd expansion immediately and it MIGHT be not that one sided.
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On February 19 2012 05:39 HaXXspetten wrote:
How come Stephano vs Grubby always endup 10x more onesided than it should on paper? :/
This. I'm a huge Stephano fan and I love grubby, and I recon he is very,very good, like top foreigner. But when those two play, I feel sad for Grubby.
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On February 19 2012 05:39 HaXXspetten wrote:
How come Stephano vs Grubby always endup 10x more onesided than it should on paper? :/
Stephano in good shape is (arguably) among the best 10 / 20 players of the world. I don't know if Grubby is even top 50. So no, it shouldn't be close.
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On February 19 2012 05:41 Ylrahc wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 05:39 HaXXspetten wrote:
How come Stephano vs Grubby always endup 10x more onesided than it should on paper? :/ Stephano in good shape is (arguably) among the best 10 / 20 players of the world. I don't know if Grubby is even top 50. So no, it shouldn't be close.
thx for unbiased opinion
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On February 19 2012 05:39 llKenZyll wrote:
Perfect tournament, lets go!
This just shows how talented Stephano is. I would go as far to say he is the best zerg in the world at the moment. But not by much ^_^
Not in the world :/, but best foreign zerg most definitely. Dont think anyone can prove otherwise atm.
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Stephano's macro, micro, timing, strategy, and game sense is a complete package. It's hard to think of another NA/EU player who is good in every aspect. Sen and Naniwa can compete, but both have their weaknesses - Stephano has very few weaknesses.
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On February 19 2012 05:41 Ylrahc wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 05:39 HaXXspetten wrote:
How come Stephano vs Grubby always endup 10x more onesided than it should on paper? :/ Stephano in good shape is (arguably) among the best 10 / 20 players of the world. I don't know if Grubby is even top 50. So no, it shouldn't be close.
True, but this is different: Stephano litterally has 95%-ish winratio vs Grubby. Stephano is way better, but it shouldn't be 20:1 in rato...
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If you watch Stephnano on ladder agains the top EU players.....he pretty much stomps everyone in EU...
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We CAN call Stephano a top 2 foreign Zerg I guess, but not more. He still has to prove himself in GSl against the koreans yet, where every single other foreigner before him fell. The difference between him and the other foreigners is that he just doesnt make mistakes. So do all the koreans, but the thing is, some koreans play genius + flawless, and thats whats called a GSl champion.
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Would it be possible that Grubby loses the mindgame and isn't able to perform as good as he should do on paper?
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Ugh why did Grubby wait so long to warp in.. then he did it when the lings were about to kill the pylon. T_T There goes any chance of aggression.
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when these 2 meet it's always as if stephano was in grubby's mind, perfect reads, nothing works for grubby
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That defensive micro... Kills the pylon during warp-in and saves the queen by strafing around roaches...
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On February 19 2012 05:44 provrorsbarn wrote:
If you watch Stephnano on ladder agains the top EU players.....he pretty much stomps everyone in EU...
Yeah, and he stomps everyone while experimenting with a variety of mid-late game strategies and unit compositions, a different one each day.
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On February 19 2012 05:46 Tarotis wrote:
We CAN call Stephano a top 2 foreign Zerg I guess, but not more. He still has to prove himself in GSl against the koreans yet, where every single other foreigner before him fell. The difference between him and the other foreigners is that he just doesnt make mistakes. So do all the koreans, but the thing is, some koreans play genius + flawless, and thats whats called a GSl champion.
Just curious who is the other top 2 foreign zerg?
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On February 19 2012 05:46 Tarotis wrote:
We CAN call Stephano a top 2 foreign Zerg I guess, but not more. He still has to prove himself in GSl against the koreans yet, where every single other foreigner before him fell. The difference between him and the other foreigners is that he just doesnt make mistakes. So do all the koreans, but the thing is, some koreans play genius + flawless, and thats whats called a GSl champion.
He has already played versus koreans. That's really annoying to have to " prove yourself in GSL ".
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very dissapointing finals, PvZs used to look like this half a year ago. Protoss does some 2 base bullshit, zerg holds and hurls roach+x till the end, meh
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On February 19 2012 05:49 Hemula wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 05:46 Tarotis wrote:
We CAN call Stephano a top 2 foreign Zerg I guess, but not more. He still has to prove himself in GSl against the koreans yet, where every single other foreigner before him fell. The difference between him and the other foreigners is that he just doesnt make mistakes. So do all the koreans, but the thing is, some koreans play genius + flawless, and thats whats called a GSl champion. Just curious who is the other top 2 foreign zerg?
Sen. The only foreigner left in GSL, among all the koreans
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Very good engagement by Grubby
Edit
Not that it mattered lol
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Stephano never loses a queen
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I don't know how Protoss are supposed to counter that.
To say the truth, I don't think they can.
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On February 19 2012 05:49 Eshra wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 05:46 Tarotis wrote:
We CAN call Stephano a top 2 foreign Zerg I guess, but not more. He still has to prove himself in GSl against the koreans yet, where every single other foreigner before him fell. The difference between him and the other foreigners is that he just doesnt make mistakes. So do all the koreans, but the thing is, some koreans play genius + flawless, and thats whats called a GSl champion. He has already played versus koreans. That's really annoying to have to " prove yourself in GSL ".
Against whom if I may ask you? MMA in an online qualifier? Some Code A or Code B players outside of korea? GSL is different than any other tournament.
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disgusting lol. I have never seen Grubby able to do anything for months, it's like Stephano has a special THACGrubby at +15 or so :p
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no chance for grubby. wp by stephano!
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On February 19 2012 05:50 Tarotis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 05:49 Hemula wrote:On February 19 2012 05:46 Tarotis wrote:
We CAN call Stephano a top 2 foreign Zerg I guess, but not more. He still has to prove himself in GSl against the koreans yet, where every single other foreigner before him fell. The difference between him and the other foreigners is that he just doesnt make mistakes. So do all the koreans, but the thing is, some koreans play genius + flawless, and thats whats called a GSl champion. Just curious who is the other top 2 foreign zerg? Sen. The only foreigner left in GSL, among all the koreans
Oh, y, hahah. I just somehow never can remember Sen when we are talking about foreigners, haha.
Edit: European bias here
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To ze bank
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On February 19 2012 05:50 dsousa wrote:
Stephano never loses a queen
He did. In the second game. Not that it made a significant difference to the outcome of the game.
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On February 19 2012 05:51 SiroKO wrote:
I don't know how Protoss are supposed to counter that.
To say the truth, I don't think they can.
MC can. No foreign toss, or at least, no toss outside of Korea has really pushed Stephano close for months.
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On February 19 2012 05:50 dsousa wrote:
Stephano never loses a queen
he did in game 2
but it's as if nothing happened
if the probe didn't have died so quickly or the warpin finished it and pylon didn't die, it could have been a nice harass
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/QVwdX.jpg)
Once again Stephano reigns.
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i hope stephano enters some big tourneys this year, MLG and shit
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On February 18 2012 21:15 Hemula wrote:
To the bank
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stephano is like "kk... good luck =p"
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oh god... grubby's crying
On February 19 2012 05:53 mememolly wrote:
i hope stephano enters some big tourneys this year, MLG and shit
winter assembly
IPL4
(ironsquid)
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On February 19 2012 05:53 mememolly wrote:
i hope stephano enters some big tourneys this year, MLG and shit
assembly!!
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On February 19 2012 05:51 Tarotis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 05:49 Eshra wrote:On February 19 2012 05:46 Tarotis wrote:
We CAN call Stephano a top 2 foreign Zerg I guess, but not more. He still has to prove himself in GSl against the koreans yet, where every single other foreigner before him fell. The difference between him and the other foreigners is that he just doesnt make mistakes. So do all the koreans, but the thing is, some koreans play genius + flawless, and thats whats called a GSl champion. He has already played versus koreans. That's really annoying to have to " prove yourself in GSL ". Against whom if I may ask you? MMA in an online qualifier? Some Code A or Code B players outside of korea? GSL is different than any other tournament.
Blizzard Cup ...
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grubby : "he's good hu ? one day, I will do it if i keep improving. I've made a few mistakes but hu, he's good."
Stephano : "he's improving, for some time, when we met it was very one-sided, but now he's coming really close, so if he keeps improving it'll be good. I can't tell what he could have done, else I could lose money since PvZ is already his best MU"
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On February 19 2012 05:53 mememolly wrote:
i hope stephano enters some big tourneys this year, MLG and shit
It's called Iron Squid...
Stephano won't ever enter a MLG again after what happened last year. And full GSL seasons don't pay enough for the time they take.
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It's almost strange to watch, it feel s like he doesn't do too much scouting and always balances on the edge of over-droning, but somehow he always ends taking the right decision. Even so, the macro from grubby wasn't the best we've seen from him.
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On February 19 2012 05:54 Nightmare-br wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 05:51 Tarotis wrote:On February 19 2012 05:49 Eshra wrote:On February 19 2012 05:46 Tarotis wrote:
We CAN call Stephano a top 2 foreign Zerg I guess, but not more. He still has to prove himself in GSl against the koreans yet, where every single other foreigner before him fell. The difference between him and the other foreigners is that he just doesnt make mistakes. So do all the koreans, but the thing is, some koreans play genius + flawless, and thats whats called a GSl champion. He has already played versus koreans. That's really annoying to have to " prove yourself in GSL ". Against whom if I may ask you? MMA in an online qualifier? Some Code A or Code B players outside of korea? GSL is different than any other tournament. Blizzard Cup ...
If I recall correctly he didn't advance?
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On February 19 2012 05:54 Apom wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 05:53 mememolly wrote:
i hope stephano enters some big tourneys this year, MLG and shit It's called Iron Squid... Stephano won't ever enter a MLG again after what happened last year. And GSL doesn't pay enough for the time it takes.
what happened to steph in MLG last year ??
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On February 19 2012 05:51 Tarotis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 05:49 Eshra wrote:On February 19 2012 05:46 Tarotis wrote:
We CAN call Stephano a top 2 foreign Zerg I guess, but not more. He still has to prove himself in GSl against the koreans yet, where every single other foreigner before him fell. The difference between him and the other foreigners is that he just doesnt make mistakes. So do all the koreans, but the thing is, some koreans play genius + flawless, and thats whats called a GSl champion. He has already played versus koreans. That's really annoying to have to " prove yourself in GSL ". Against whom if I may ask you? MMA in an online qualifier? Some Code A or Code B players outside of korea? GSL is different than any other tournament.
Yes, and that's pretty stupid. But whatever, even if he beats koreans outside of Korea, y'all keep telling that's just irrelevant as long as that's not in GSL.
GSL is a tournament where you can prepare for your opponent litteraly perfectly. Foreign tournaments require some quick adaptation since you chain matches. I'm getting more and more bored with the GSL.
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On February 19 2012 05:55 Tarotis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 05:54 Nightmare-br wrote:On February 19 2012 05:51 Tarotis wrote:On February 19 2012 05:49 Eshra wrote:On February 19 2012 05:46 Tarotis wrote:
We CAN call Stephano a top 2 foreign Zerg I guess, but not more. He still has to prove himself in GSl against the koreans yet, where every single other foreigner before him fell. The difference between him and the other foreigners is that he just doesnt make mistakes. So do all the koreans, but the thing is, some koreans play genius + flawless, and thats whats called a GSl champion. He has already played versus koreans. That's really annoying to have to " prove yourself in GSL ". Against whom if I may ask you? MMA in an online qualifier? Some Code A or Code B players outside of korea? GSL is different than any other tournament. Blizzard Cup ... If I recall correctly he didn't advance?
He went 2-2 in a group with MVP,DRG and MC...
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On February 19 2012 05:55 Tarotis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 05:54 Nightmare-br wrote:On February 19 2012 05:51 Tarotis wrote:On February 19 2012 05:49 Eshra wrote:On February 19 2012 05:46 Tarotis wrote:
We CAN call Stephano a top 2 foreign Zerg I guess, but not more. He still has to prove himself in GSl against the koreans yet, where every single other foreigner before him fell. The difference between him and the other foreigners is that he just doesnt make mistakes. So do all the koreans, but the thing is, some koreans play genius + flawless, and thats whats called a GSl champion. He has already played versus koreans. That's really annoying to have to " prove yourself in GSL ". Against whom if I may ask you? MMA in an online qualifier? Some Code A or Code B players outside of korea? GSL is different than any other tournament. Blizzard Cup ... If I recall correctly he didn't advance?
he was atleast on the same lvl and could easily compete
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je vais aller gagner or so^^ ? I will win?
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Grubby should get a mentor....+ Show Spoiler +Sorry about the bad joke =P
In grubby's defense, Stephano is in top form so it's not easy for anyone to beat him. Well GG.
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On February 19 2012 05:56 FantaFanta wrote:
je vais aller gagner or so^^ ? I will win?
You got that right
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On February 19 2012 05:51 SiroKO wrote:
I don't know how Protoss are supposed to counter that.
To say the truth, I don't think they can.
Perfect injects from zerg is very hard to cope with because they have so many more units in the midgame. I've watched Stephano's stream and his injects are near perfect throughout the whole game.
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Anyway, french are really awesome, besides this horned guy this was really cool. Also good crowd.
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On February 19 2012 05:51 Tarotis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 05:49 Eshra wrote:On February 19 2012 05:46 Tarotis wrote:
We CAN call Stephano a top 2 foreign Zerg I guess, but not more. He still has to prove himself in GSl against the koreans yet, where every single other foreigner before him fell. The difference between him and the other foreigners is that he just doesnt make mistakes. So do all the koreans, but the thing is, some koreans play genius + flawless, and thats whats called a GSl champion. He has already played versus koreans. That's really annoying to have to " prove yourself in GSL ". Against whom if I may ask you? MMA in an online qualifier? Some Code A or Code B players outside of korea? GSL is different than any other tournament.
He beat DRG and Hero in the Blizzard Cup.... only barely losing to MC and MVP.
Koreans should be afraid of him, once he gets rolling he could turn around 10 years of Korean RTS dominance
I don't think any of the top Koreans are eager to face him, they have a lot invested in being considered the best in the world, and Stephano could undo all that pretty quickly once he gets on a roll.
He's a steamroller in EU/NA... and if he gets in that zone in Korea..... well the forums here would get pretty ugly.
He is a huge threat to BW and KR superiority. What would TL think if a French WC3 player is really the best in the world?
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On February 19 2012 05:42 amiGo_O wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 05:41 Ylrahc wrote:On February 19 2012 05:39 HaXXspetten wrote:
How come Stephano vs Grubby always endup 10x more onesided than it should on paper? :/ Stephano in good shape is (arguably) among the best 10 / 20 players of the world. I don't know if Grubby is even top 50. So no, it shouldn't be close. thx for unbiased opinion
Well Stephano proved my point. Besides, he trained his ZvP a LOT lately, he has a 10 to 20 : 1 ratio against Mana and Bling who are excellent protoss as well, so it's not really a surprise he is 14 : 1 against Grubby.
On February 19 2012 05:59 dsousa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 05:51 Tarotis wrote:On February 19 2012 05:49 Eshra wrote:On February 19 2012 05:46 Tarotis wrote:
We CAN call Stephano a top 2 foreign Zerg I guess, but not more. He still has to prove himself in GSl against the koreans yet, where every single other foreigner before him fell. The difference between him and the other foreigners is that he just doesnt make mistakes. So do all the koreans, but the thing is, some koreans play genius + flawless, and thats whats called a GSl champion. He has already played versus koreans. That's really annoying to have to " prove yourself in GSL ". Against whom if I may ask you? MMA in an online qualifier? Some Code A or Code B players outside of korea? GSL is different than any other tournament. He beat DRG and Hero in the Blizzard Cup.... only barely losing to MC and MVP. Koreans should be afraid of him, once he get rolling he could turn around 10 years of Korean RTS dominance I don't think any of the top Koreans are eager to face him, they have a lot invested in being considered the best in the world, and Stephano could undo all that pretty quickly once he gets on a roll. He's a steamroller in EU/NA... and if he gets in that zone in Korea..... well the forums here would get pretty ugly. He is a huge threat to BW and KR superiority.
Don't get over your head please...he is still not as good as the very best koreans...his ZvP is world class, but lately his ZvZ and ZvT, while still good, have shown some lack of consistency, dropping games or series here and there vs players considered not as good as him.
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People complaining that Steph did not advance in his GSL group: Seriously? He played in a group with argueably the best players of each race at the time of the matches and went out with an even score of 2-2. All foreigners and about 90% of the Korean players would not be able to do this.
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Everyone wants a photo with Grubby while Stephano rode away with Bling on his back, haha! :D
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And it will be better on Ironsquid !
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On February 19 2012 05:46 Tarotis wrote:
We CAN call Stephano a top 2 foreign Zerg I guess, but not more. He still has to prove himself in GSl against the koreans yet, where every single other foreigner before him fell. The difference between him and the other foreigners is that he just doesnt make mistakes. So do all the koreans, but the thing is, some koreans play genius + flawless, and thats whats called a GSl champion.
that's some very concentrated sort of bullshit.
1. he doesnt have to prove himself in GSL, he played against Koreans, GSL is the biggest tournament, so if he wants to be called the best progamer ever than maybe ye, he should go and win some, but he doesnt give a flying crap about how people rank him.
2. he makes mistakes
3. no koreans make mistakes??, wtf, idont even....
4. idk why 'd u call some Koreans geniouses, foreigners are as creative as Koreans, what "geniousness" koreans have is figuring out really optimized buildorders and timings among their training cliques.
5. They aren't playing flawless, tons of mistakes and hiccups happen in every single GSL game, get back to Earth please, Koreans are not Gods who came down form heaven to show how starcraft is played. Yes they are better than anyone else in general, end of story
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I feel like Stephano is a Code S level Zerg. Not going to bother arguing about whether he'd be able to reach Code S if he goes to the GSL (because there's a lot more barriers to success in the GSL than just your skill), but it's what I think watching the way he plays.
He doesn't really have a weakness. Lots of strategies, excellent macro, excellent micro, awesome positioning and engagements, great game sense, and a grasp of timing that few foreigners have. The one thing about him that prevents him from winning everything is that he seems to be inconsistent from tournament to tournament. Sometimes he shows his best and sometimes he doesn't, but if he doesn't, its not a per-game thing but a per-tournament thing. Not sure why.
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On February 19 2012 05:55 Eshra wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 05:51 Tarotis wrote:On February 19 2012 05:49 Eshra wrote:On February 19 2012 05:46 Tarotis wrote:
We CAN call Stephano a top 2 foreign Zerg I guess, but not more. He still has to prove himself in GSl against the koreans yet, where every single other foreigner before him fell. The difference between him and the other foreigners is that he just doesnt make mistakes. So do all the koreans, but the thing is, some koreans play genius + flawless, and thats whats called a GSl champion. He has already played versus koreans. That's really annoying to have to " prove yourself in GSL ". Against whom if I may ask you? MMA in an online qualifier? Some Code A or Code B players outside of korea? GSL is different than any other tournament. Yes, and that's pretty stupid. But whatever, even if he beats koreans outside of Korea, y'all keep telling that's just irrelevant as long as that's not in GSL. GSL is a tournament where you can prepare for your opponent litteraly perfectly. Foreign tournaments require some quick adaptation since you chain matches. I'm getting more and more bored with the GSL.
winning a GSL is still the pinnacle of sc2, stephano has the skill to win one if he stayed in korea for a few months or longer but for a young kid with a lot of money and easier ways to make money it isn't efficient or fun for him to be korea for a long period of time, which is a shame because he is the only foreigner who could win one atm
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On February 19 2012 06:00 Ylrahc wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 05:42 amiGo_O wrote:On February 19 2012 05:41 Ylrahc wrote:On February 19 2012 05:39 HaXXspetten wrote:
How come Stephano vs Grubby always endup 10x more onesided than it should on paper? :/ Stephano in good shape is (arguably) among the best 10 / 20 players of the world. I don't know if Grubby is even top 50. So no, it shouldn't be close. thx for unbiased opinion Well Stephano proved my point. Besides, he trained his ZvP a LOT lately, he has a 10 to 20 : 1 ratio against Mana and Bling who are excellent protoss as well, so it's not really a surprise he is 14 : 1 against Grubby. Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 05:59 dsousa wrote:On February 19 2012 05:51 Tarotis wrote:On February 19 2012 05:49 Eshra wrote:On February 19 2012 05:46 Tarotis wrote:
We CAN call Stephano a top 2 foreign Zerg I guess, but not more. He still has to prove himself in GSl against the koreans yet, where every single other foreigner before him fell. The difference between him and the other foreigners is that he just doesnt make mistakes. So do all the koreans, but the thing is, some koreans play genius + flawless, and thats whats called a GSl champion. He has already played versus koreans. That's really annoying to have to " prove yourself in GSL ". Against whom if I may ask you? MMA in an online qualifier? Some Code A or Code B players outside of korea? GSL is different than any other tournament. He beat DRG and Hero in the Blizzard Cup.... only barely losing to MC and MVP. Koreans should be afraid of him, once he get rolling he could turn around 10 years of Korean RTS dominance I don't think any of the top Koreans are eager to face him, they have a lot invested in being considered the best in the world, and Stephano could undo all that pretty quickly once he gets on a roll. He's a steamroller in EU/NA... and if he gets in that zone in Korea..... well the forums here would get pretty ugly. He is a huge threat to BW and KR superiority. Don't get over your head please...he is still not as good as the very best koreans...his ZvP is world class, but lately his ZvZ and ZvT, while still good, have shown some lack of consistency, dropping games or series here and there vs players considered not as good as him.
Your looking at it too granularity..... he's a WINNER.... he finds ways to WIN and to dominate.
On a big stage, in big events that counts for a lot.
Some competitors just have that "intangible" ability to win.... Stephano has it without question... and he's a threat to the best in the world.
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On February 19 2012 06:01 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 05:46 Tarotis wrote:
We CAN call Stephano a top 2 foreign Zerg I guess, but not more. He still has to prove himself in GSl against the koreans yet, where every single other foreigner before him fell. The difference between him and the other foreigners is that he just doesnt make mistakes. So do all the koreans, but the thing is, some koreans play genius + flawless, and thats whats called a GSl champion. that's some very concentrated sort of bullshit. 1. he doesnt have to prove himself in GSL, he played against Koreans, GSL is the biggest tournament, so if he wants to be called the best progamer ever than maybe ye, he should go and win some, but he doesnt give a flying crap about how people rank him. 2. he makes mistakes 3. no koreans make mistakes??, wtf, idont even.... 4. idk why 'd u call some Koreans geniouses, foreigners are as creative as Koreans, what "geniousness" koreans have is figuring out really optimized buildorders and timings among their training cliques. 5. They aren't playing flawless, tons of mistakes and hiccups happen in every single GSL game, get back to Earth please, Koreans are not Gods who came down form heaven to show how starcraft is played. Yes they are better than anyone else in general, end of story
Just ignore people that have this "loser" mindset. Unfortunately there are several top foreign players that think the same: winning a map in a bo3 vs a korean is a good result for them.
That's not how you approach the match ...
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On February 19 2012 06:04 Azarkon wrote:
I feel like Stephano is a Code S level Zerg. Not going to bother arguing about whether he'd be able to reach Code S if he goes to the GSL (because there's a lot more barriers to success in the GSL than just your skill), but it's what I think watching the way he plays.
He doesn't really have a weakness. Lots of strategies, excellent macro, excellent micro, awesome positioning and engagements, great game sense, and a grasp of timing that few foreigners have. The one thing about him that prevents him from winning everything is that he seems to be inconsistent from tournament to tournament. Sometimes he shows his best and sometimes he doesn't, but if he doesn't, its not a per-game thing but a per-tournament thing. Not sure why.
I think he will do really well in the next big events vs top koreans. Last year people just learned his style and they were able to blind counter his builds (Mvp on Shakuras is a good example).
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On February 19 2012 06:04 mememolly wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 05:55 Eshra wrote:On February 19 2012 05:51 Tarotis wrote:On February 19 2012 05:49 Eshra wrote:On February 19 2012 05:46 Tarotis wrote:
We CAN call Stephano a top 2 foreign Zerg I guess, but not more. He still has to prove himself in GSl against the koreans yet, where every single other foreigner before him fell. The difference between him and the other foreigners is that he just doesnt make mistakes. So do all the koreans, but the thing is, some koreans play genius + flawless, and thats whats called a GSl champion. He has already played versus koreans. That's really annoying to have to " prove yourself in GSL ". Against whom if I may ask you? MMA in an online qualifier? Some Code A or Code B players outside of korea? GSL is different than any other tournament. Yes, and that's pretty stupid. But whatever, even if he beats koreans outside of Korea, y'all keep telling that's just irrelevant as long as that's not in GSL. GSL is a tournament where you can prepare for your opponent litteraly perfectly. Foreign tournaments require some quick adaptation since you chain matches. I'm getting more and more bored with the GSL. winning a GSL is still the pinnacle of sc2, stephano has the skill to win one if he stayed in korea for a few months or longer but for a young kid with a lot of money and easier ways to make money it isn't efficient or fun for him to be korea for a long period of time, which is a shame because he is the only foreigner who could win one atm
Hmm, kind of reminds me of that conversation between Achillies and his mother at the beginning of Troy.
If he doesn't go to the GSL, he will see a lot of success in EU/NA, and after he's gone his fans will remember him. But as the years pass and SC 2 changes, little by little his fame will fade away, until in the end no one remembers his name.
If he goes to the GSL, he may lose everything and retire in disrepute. But if he should win it, if he should win the GSL, then his name will echo in eternity.
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May i remember to the ppl that stephano was among the 3 best zerg in the KR ladder in terms of ratio/points all this period ? NO FOREIGNER did that ! So it's just ladder but it might whos something ^^
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stephano is top foreigner for sure
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On February 19 2012 06:12 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 06:04 mememolly wrote:On February 19 2012 05:55 Eshra wrote:On February 19 2012 05:51 Tarotis wrote:On February 19 2012 05:49 Eshra wrote:On February 19 2012 05:46 Tarotis wrote:
We CAN call Stephano a top 2 foreign Zerg I guess, but not more. He still has to prove himself in GSl against the koreans yet, where every single other foreigner before him fell. The difference between him and the other foreigners is that he just doesnt make mistakes. So do all the koreans, but the thing is, some koreans play genius + flawless, and thats whats called a GSl champion. He has already played versus koreans. That's really annoying to have to " prove yourself in GSL ". Against whom if I may ask you? MMA in an online qualifier? Some Code A or Code B players outside of korea? GSL is different than any other tournament. Yes, and that's pretty stupid. But whatever, even if he beats koreans outside of Korea, y'all keep telling that's just irrelevant as long as that's not in GSL. GSL is a tournament where you can prepare for your opponent litteraly perfectly. Foreign tournaments require some quick adaptation since you chain matches. I'm getting more and more bored with the GSL. winning a GSL is still the pinnacle of sc2, stephano has the skill to win one if he stayed in korea for a few months or longer but for a young kid with a lot of money and easier ways to make money it isn't efficient or fun for him to be korea for a long period of time, which is a shame because he is the only foreigner who could win one atm Hmm, kind of reminds me of that conversation between Achillies and his mother at the beginning of Troy. If he doesn't go to the GSL, he will see a lot of success in EU/NA, and after he's gone his fans will remember him. But as the years pass and SC 2 changes, little by little his fame will fade away, until in the end no one remembers his name. If he goes to the GSL, he may lose everything and retire in disrepute. But if he should win it, if he should win the GSL, then his name will echo in eternity.
And Stephano doesn't give a damn about that. He is more interested in making money (and enjoying life) in a short timespan. This is why his decision not to do GSL and win EU / NA tournaments left and right seems logical :p
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On February 19 2012 06:12 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 06:04 mememolly wrote:On February 19 2012 05:55 Eshra wrote:On February 19 2012 05:51 Tarotis wrote:On February 19 2012 05:49 Eshra wrote:On February 19 2012 05:46 Tarotis wrote:
We CAN call Stephano a top 2 foreign Zerg I guess, but not more. He still has to prove himself in GSl against the koreans yet, where every single other foreigner before him fell. The difference between him and the other foreigners is that he just doesnt make mistakes. So do all the koreans, but the thing is, some koreans play genius + flawless, and thats whats called a GSl champion. He has already played versus koreans. That's really annoying to have to " prove yourself in GSL ". Against whom if I may ask you? MMA in an online qualifier? Some Code A or Code B players outside of korea? GSL is different than any other tournament. Yes, and that's pretty stupid. But whatever, even if he beats koreans outside of Korea, y'all keep telling that's just irrelevant as long as that's not in GSL. GSL is a tournament where you can prepare for your opponent litteraly perfectly. Foreign tournaments require some quick adaptation since you chain matches. I'm getting more and more bored with the GSL. winning a GSL is still the pinnacle of sc2, stephano has the skill to win one if he stayed in korea for a few months or longer but for a young kid with a lot of money and easier ways to make money it isn't efficient or fun for him to be korea for a long period of time, which is a shame because he is the only foreigner who could win one atm Hmm, kind of reminds me of that conversation between Achillies and his mother at the beginning of Troy. If he doesn't go to the GSL, he will see a lot of success in EU/NA, and after he's gone his fans will remember him. But as the years pass and SC 2 changes, little by little his fame will fade away, until in the end no one remembers his name. If he goes to the GSL, he may lose everything and retire in disrepute. But if he should win it, if he should win the GSL, then his name will echo in eternity.
Haha this!! But yeah imo GSL is just not worth it atm, he's making more money than almost any korean that is not top 4. And the chance that he wont get far from the getgo is too big, as even MVP and MMA are struggling now to get top 4 in the GSL.
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Stephano has picked up more than $8000 in prize money in 2012, which is only about 6 weeks. You can see why it is worthwhile him staying in Europe. He'd have won more too if he had not pulled out of the ONOG Final.
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On February 19 2012 06:23 massivez wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 06:12 Azarkon wrote:On February 19 2012 06:04 mememolly wrote:On February 19 2012 05:55 Eshra wrote:On February 19 2012 05:51 Tarotis wrote:On February 19 2012 05:49 Eshra wrote:On February 19 2012 05:46 Tarotis wrote:
We CAN call Stephano a top 2 foreign Zerg I guess, but not more. He still has to prove himself in GSl against the koreans yet, where every single other foreigner before him fell. The difference between him and the other foreigners is that he just doesnt make mistakes. So do all the koreans, but the thing is, some koreans play genius + flawless, and thats whats called a GSl champion. He has already played versus koreans. That's really annoying to have to " prove yourself in GSL ". Against whom if I may ask you? MMA in an online qualifier? Some Code A or Code B players outside of korea? GSL is different than any other tournament. Yes, and that's pretty stupid. But whatever, even if he beats koreans outside of Korea, y'all keep telling that's just irrelevant as long as that's not in GSL. GSL is a tournament where you can prepare for your opponent litteraly perfectly. Foreign tournaments require some quick adaptation since you chain matches. I'm getting more and more bored with the GSL. winning a GSL is still the pinnacle of sc2, stephano has the skill to win one if he stayed in korea for a few months or longer but for a young kid with a lot of money and easier ways to make money it isn't efficient or fun for him to be korea for a long period of time, which is a shame because he is the only foreigner who could win one atm Hmm, kind of reminds me of that conversation between Achillies and his mother at the beginning of Troy. If he doesn't go to the GSL, he will see a lot of success in EU/NA, and after he's gone his fans will remember him. But as the years pass and SC 2 changes, little by little his fame will fade away, until in the end no one remembers his name. If he goes to the GSL, he may lose everything and retire in disrepute. But if he should win it, if he should win the GSL, then his name will echo in eternity. Haha this!! But yeah imo GSL is just not worth it atm, he's making more money than almost any korean that is not top 4. And the chance that he wont get far from the getgo is too big, as even MVP and MMA are struggling now to get top 4 in the GSL.
The GSL is as volatile as any part of SC2, except the tournement takes part over 4-6 weeks. So if you have a bad day, your basically out of competition until 6 weeks later.
Its a silly system and doesn't promote an active competitive landscape. I've seen Stepahno play more in 2012 so far, than I saw Nestea play in all of 2011.
Well, the GSL on its own is ok, but KR in general needs more tournaments to showcase players.
Stephano shows his mad skillz every week, multiple times, how often do we get to see MVP, DRG, MMA, Nestea?
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On February 19 2012 06:32 dsousa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 06:23 massivez wrote:On February 19 2012 06:12 Azarkon wrote:On February 19 2012 06:04 mememolly wrote:On February 19 2012 05:55 Eshra wrote:On February 19 2012 05:51 Tarotis wrote:On February 19 2012 05:49 Eshra wrote:On February 19 2012 05:46 Tarotis wrote:
We CAN call Stephano a top 2 foreign Zerg I guess, but not more. He still has to prove himself in GSl against the koreans yet, where every single other foreigner before him fell. The difference between him and the other foreigners is that he just doesnt make mistakes. So do all the koreans, but the thing is, some koreans play genius + flawless, and thats whats called a GSl champion. He has already played versus koreans. That's really annoying to have to " prove yourself in GSL ". Against whom if I may ask you? MMA in an online qualifier? Some Code A or Code B players outside of korea? GSL is different than any other tournament. Yes, and that's pretty stupid. But whatever, even if he beats koreans outside of Korea, y'all keep telling that's just irrelevant as long as that's not in GSL. GSL is a tournament where you can prepare for your opponent litteraly perfectly. Foreign tournaments require some quick adaptation since you chain matches. I'm getting more and more bored with the GSL. winning a GSL is still the pinnacle of sc2, stephano has the skill to win one if he stayed in korea for a few months or longer but for a young kid with a lot of money and easier ways to make money it isn't efficient or fun for him to be korea for a long period of time, which is a shame because he is the only foreigner who could win one atm Hmm, kind of reminds me of that conversation between Achillies and his mother at the beginning of Troy. If he doesn't go to the GSL, he will see a lot of success in EU/NA, and after he's gone his fans will remember him. But as the years pass and SC 2 changes, little by little his fame will fade away, until in the end no one remembers his name. If he goes to the GSL, he may lose everything and retire in disrepute. But if he should win it, if he should win the GSL, then his name will echo in eternity. Haha this!! But yeah imo GSL is just not worth it atm, he's making more money than almost any korean that is not top 4. And the chance that he wont get far from the getgo is too big, as even MVP and MMA are struggling now to get top 4 in the GSL. The GSL is as volatile as any part of SC2, except the tournement takes part over 4-6 weeks. So if you have a bad day, your basically out of competition until 6 weeks later. Its a silly system and doesn't promote an active competitive landscape. I've seen Stepahno play more in 2012 so far, than I saw Nestea play in all of 2011. Well, the GSL on its own is ok, but KR in general needs more tournaments to showcase players. Stephano shows his mad skillz every week, multiple times, how often do we get to see MVP, DRG, MMA, Nestea?
Well, there's room for both. And part of the excitement of the top koreans is that we see them so rarely. Buyt I agree to the extent that I find the weekend-events to be a lot more engaging, even if the quality of the games will never be as high. Instead we get quick, gritty and intense.
I really wish that a european GSL equivalent would happen. Players could travel to a studio located in germany for centrality. I think training for a GSL gives the players something special in their training, that they don't get when training in general. The hammering out of specific builds on specific maps to take out specific opponents. It has to focus the attention of the players on the small details and perfect timings.
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On February 19 2012 06:04 mememolly wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 05:55 Eshra wrote:On February 19 2012 05:51 Tarotis wrote:On February 19 2012 05:49 Eshra wrote:On February 19 2012 05:46 Tarotis wrote:
We CAN call Stephano a top 2 foreign Zerg I guess, but not more. He still has to prove himself in GSl against the koreans yet, where every single other foreigner before him fell. The difference between him and the other foreigners is that he just doesnt make mistakes. So do all the koreans, but the thing is, some koreans play genius + flawless, and thats whats called a GSl champion. He has already played versus koreans. That's really annoying to have to " prove yourself in GSL ". Against whom if I may ask you? MMA in an online qualifier? Some Code A or Code B players outside of korea? GSL is different than any other tournament. Yes, and that's pretty stupid. But whatever, even if he beats koreans outside of Korea, y'all keep telling that's just irrelevant as long as that's not in GSL. GSL is a tournament where you can prepare for your opponent litteraly perfectly. Foreign tournaments require some quick adaptation since you chain matches. I'm getting more and more bored with the GSL. winning a GSL is still the pinnacle of sc2, stephano has the skill to win one if he stayed in korea for a few months or longer but for a young kid with a lot of money and easier ways to make money it isn't efficient or fun for him to be korea for a long period of time, which is a shame because he is the only foreigner who could win one atm
Agreed, but as someone already said it, winning a GSL is far from being only skill-related. It's at least half of preparation for a specific opponent/match up. Skillwise, i'm pretty sure Stephano can compete with the best of the best. But he's not used to the way GSL rolls. Well, I'm just assuming things here, but I'm fairly confident in my thoughts.
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anyone know wehre i can find the vods? ty, i want to see some stephano
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I don't think VoDs are available. Maybe later. But the replays are already uploaded somewhere. I just need a minute to remember the website. :D
Edit : More than a minute, actually. I know a guy said during the event that the replays were available, but i can't find them anywhere.
Pretty sure the replays will be available there : http://www.millenium.org/starcraft-2/accueil/static/-sc2replay-/ soon, maybe already.
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On February 19 2012 07:09 qwertyindeed wrote:anyone know wehre i can find the vods? ty, i want to see some stephano
http://www.twitch.tv/dignitastoh1o
finals start at 4:21:00 of the latest video. (Semifinal of stephano vs bling is somewhere on the 3rd to last video).
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And it's better than the millenium tool by far !
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On February 19 2012 05:59 dsousa wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 05:51 Tarotis wrote:On February 19 2012 05:49 Eshra wrote:On February 19 2012 05:46 Tarotis wrote:
We CAN call Stephano a top 2 foreign Zerg I guess, but not more. He still has to prove himself in GSl against the koreans yet, where every single other foreigner before him fell. The difference between him and the other foreigners is that he just doesnt make mistakes. So do all the koreans, but the thing is, some koreans play genius + flawless, and thats whats called a GSl champion. He has already played versus koreans. That's really annoying to have to " prove yourself in GSL ". Against whom if I may ask you? MMA in an online qualifier? Some Code A or Code B players outside of korea? GSL is different than any other tournament. He beat DRG and Hero in the Blizzard Cup.... only barely losing to MC and MVP. Koreans should be afraid of him, once he gets rolling he could turn around 10 years of Korean RTS dominance I don't think any of the top Koreans are eager to face him, they have a lot invested in being considered the best in the world, and Stephano could undo all that pretty quickly once he gets on a roll. He's a steamroller in EU/NA... and if he gets in that zone in Korea..... well the forums here would get pretty ugly. He is a huge threat to BW and KR superiority. What would TL think if a French WC3 player is really the best in the world?
are you trolling?
Stephano will never dominates korea (and so the world) because he is too afraid/just want easy money from the EU tournaments that he -at the moment- dominates.
I predict big big upsets in the next 12 months for the stephano fan boys
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Grubby really has trouble against Stephano's playstyle
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On February 19 2012 22:15 stickyhands wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2012 05:59 dsousa wrote:On February 19 2012 05:51 Tarotis wrote:On February 19 2012 05:49 Eshra wrote:On February 19 2012 05:46 Tarotis wrote:
We CAN call Stephano a top 2 foreign Zerg I guess, but not more. He still has to prove himself in GSl against the koreans yet, where every single other foreigner before him fell. The difference between him and the other foreigners is that he just doesnt make mistakes. So do all the koreans, but the thing is, some koreans play genius + flawless, and thats whats called a GSl champion. He has already played versus koreans. That's really annoying to have to " prove yourself in GSL ". Against whom if I may ask you? MMA in an online qualifier? Some Code A or Code B players outside of korea? GSL is different than any other tournament. He beat DRG and Hero in the Blizzard Cup.... only barely losing to MC and MVP. Koreans should be afraid of him, once he gets rolling he could turn around 10 years of Korean RTS dominance I don't think any of the top Koreans are eager to face him, they have a lot invested in being considered the best in the world, and Stephano could undo all that pretty quickly once he gets on a roll. He's a steamroller in EU/NA... and if he gets in that zone in Korea..... well the forums here would get pretty ugly. He is a huge threat to BW and KR superiority. What would TL think if a French WC3 player is really the best in the world? are you trolling? Stephano will never dominates korea (and so the world) because he is too afraid/just want easy money from the EU tournaments that he -at the moment- dominates. I predict big big upsets in the next 12 months for the stephano fan boys
Your prediction is that at some point in the next year will lose badly? What a bold statement.
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Stephano has a brilliant mind. I want to cut his skull open and examine it.
Totally missed this tournament but it's amazing to see Stephano's results.
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More moneys for Stephano. Sigh
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