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On February 09 2012 21:55 jupiter6 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 21:53 MrCon wrote:
4 gating MKP was a dumb idea anyway. He's so immune to cheese it's not even funny. +1 i never see him dying to cheese lol
That's why MC is cheering so hard for Genius 
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Well so much for a macro game. Thanks MKP -.-'
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On February 09 2012 21:55 jupiter6 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 21:53 MrCon wrote:
4 gating MKP was a dumb idea anyway. He's so immune to cheese it's not even funny. +1 i never see him dying to cheese lol
Now that you mention it... when was the last time MKP die to cheese? I recall never.
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On February 09 2012 21:55 Vindicare605 wrote:MKP seems to find himself in those kinds of situations a lot more than other pros. I don't know why lol.
I didn't find that game silly. Genius failed a 4gate and lost his pylon, MKP responded normally by just killing him.
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Old school MKP 
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On February 09 2012 21:56 MrCon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 21:54 Megabuster123 wrote:On February 09 2012 21:53 xongnox wrote:On February 09 2012 21:47 Megabuster123 wrote:On February 09 2012 21:45 SolidMustard wrote:On February 09 2012 21:42 Megabuster123 wrote:On February 09 2012 21:40 xongnox wrote:
Strange play from Nestea, in a decisive map... See phoenixes+mass blink stalkers ? make mutas. See collossus ? mass zerglings. Then die miserably.
And they are still people to think he's the best Z in the world ? (IMO DRG, Leenock and Stephano are better than him from a long time now ) That's a huge boost...Stephano is not better than Nestea. You have no reason to believe that. No reason? Stephano has been beasting it up hardcore lately, and Nestea not so much... Problem is Stephano doesn't compete with koreans often so it s hard to know precisely at what level he is compared to them. I look forward to the Iron Squid to see that. If he wins Iron Squid, it will be one more proof that he is one of the best (if not the best) zerg players in the world Doing well as a foreigner doesn't put you on the same level as a 3 time GSL Champion. You still have no reason to believe he's better than Nestea. Nestea was good, and was without any doubt the best Z in the world, but it's a very long time ago. Since this he just lose to random 2nd-class Korean player. That's all. And Stephano really good atm. Except all we see of Stephano is him beating foreigners that also get rolled by Koreans...>_> There's no positive evidence for Stephano being any better than any Korean zerg. The ironsquid tournament will settle this But Stephano going 2-2 in his Blizzcup group was a pretty good performance.
(and getting to top20 in the Kor ladder when you compare it to Idra's for instance, also gives a small idea)
edit : wanted to edit and not quote ><
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I think I know why he is called MarineKing! Guess what, he likes dem marines!
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Marine King
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im hating these camera angles with a passion
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37058 Posts
On February 09 2012 21:54 Seeker wrote: MKP vs  Genius on Antiga Shipyard 1.2 MKP at bottom left Genius at top right First 5 minutesMKP opens no rax double Genius opens 1 gate gas MKP grabbing his barracks Genius chrono boosts out a zealot MKP grabbing 2 barracks now Genius expanding after the 1 gate MKP grabbing his 2nd orbital MKP's scouting scv misses the zealot of Genius Genius brings in 1 probe and a zealot MKP now has to micro a bit Genius gets JACK SQUAT and backs off
5 - 10 minutes
MKP now going up to 6 RAX
OMFG!!!! 6 RAXXXXXXXXX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Genius getting 3 gates
MKP keeping up his constant production of marines
Genius moving in with a stalker to get any scouting scvs
MKP micros around a zealot AND a stalk-....... nvm scv died
MKP moves out with a TON of marines
Genius is now aware of the # of marines but NOT AWARE that MKP has SO MANY MORE in the back
MKP moving in with a fuckton of units
Battle ensues
MKP kiting like crazy
Genius does hold off the attack very well
MKP still sending a constant stream of marines
Genius is forced to keep spawning units to try to fight this off
Genius loses all his sentries
Genius HAS held off the attack however
MKP now transitioning to MMM
Genius now getting colossi
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On February 09 2012 21:57 MrCon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 21:56 MrCon wrote:On February 09 2012 21:54 Megabuster123 wrote:On February 09 2012 21:53 xongnox wrote:On February 09 2012 21:47 Megabuster123 wrote:On February 09 2012 21:45 SolidMustard wrote:On February 09 2012 21:42 Megabuster123 wrote:On February 09 2012 21:40 xongnox wrote:
Strange play from Nestea, in a decisive map... See phoenixes+mass blink stalkers ? make mutas. See collossus ? mass zerglings. Then die miserably.
And they are still people to think he's the best Z in the world ? (IMO DRG, Leenock and Stephano are better than him from a long time now ) That's a huge boost...Stephano is not better than Nestea. You have no reason to believe that. No reason? Stephano has been beasting it up hardcore lately, and Nestea not so much... Problem is Stephano doesn't compete with koreans often so it s hard to know precisely at what level he is compared to them. I look forward to the Iron Squid to see that. If he wins Iron Squid, it will be one more proof that he is one of the best (if not the best) zerg players in the world Doing well as a foreigner doesn't put you on the same level as a 3 time GSL Champion. You still have no reason to believe he's better than Nestea. Nestea was good, and was without any doubt the best Z in the world, but it's a very long time ago. Since this he just lose to random 2nd-class Korean player. That's all. And Stephano really good atm. Except all we see of Stephano is him beating foreigners that also get rolled by Koreans...>_> There's no positive evidence for Stephano being any better than any Korean zerg. The ironsquid tournament will settle this But Stephano going 2-2 in his Blizzcup group was a pretty good performance. (and getting to top20 in the Kor ladder when you compare it to Idra's for instance, still gives a small idea) edit : wanted to edit and not quote ><
Ladder is meh.
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if only stalkers could be microed like marines, right.. :|
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On February 09 2012 21:56 Meteora.GB wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 21:55 jupiter6 wrote:On February 09 2012 21:53 MrCon wrote:
4 gating MKP was a dumb idea anyway. He's so immune to cheese it's not even funny. +1 i never see him dying to cheese lol Now that you mention it... when was the last time MKP die to cheese? I recall never.
Well, he sometimes dies to his own cheese failing ^__^
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I just want to see a macro game...
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On February 09 2012 21:53 xongnox wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 21:47 Megabuster123 wrote:On February 09 2012 21:45 SolidMustard wrote:On February 09 2012 21:42 Megabuster123 wrote:On February 09 2012 21:40 xongnox wrote:
Strange play from Nestea, in a decisive map... See phoenixes+mass blink stalkers ? make mutas. See collossus ? mass zerglings. Then die miserably.
And they are still people to think he's the best Z in the world ? (IMO DRG, Leenock and Stephano are better than him from a long time now ) That's a huge boost...Stephano is not better than Nestea. You have no reason to believe that. No reason? Stephano has been beasting it up hardcore lately, and Nestea not so much... Problem is Stephano doesn't compete with koreans often so it s hard to know precisely at what level he is compared to them. I look forward to the Iron Squid to see that. If he wins Iron Squid, it will be one more proof that he is one of the best (if not the best) zerg players in the world Doing well as a foreigner doesn't put you on the same level as a 3 time GSL Champion. You still have no reason to believe he's better than Nestea. Nestea was good, and was without any doubt the best Z in the world, but it's a very long time ago. Since this he just lose to random 2nd-class Korean player. That's all. And Stephano really good atm.
Nestea's Recent GSL losses- Polt, Leenock, MMA (In Blizzard Cup)
MMA, HuK (GSL Nov.)
MVP (GSL Oct.)
MMA, MVP (GSL August)
And he lost 0 games in GSL July
Yeah, Nestea has been losing to random 2nd-class Koreans like MMA and MVP
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On February 09 2012 21:59 Megabuster123 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 21:57 MrCon wrote:On February 09 2012 21:56 MrCon wrote:On February 09 2012 21:54 Megabuster123 wrote:On February 09 2012 21:53 xongnox wrote:On February 09 2012 21:47 Megabuster123 wrote:On February 09 2012 21:45 SolidMustard wrote:On February 09 2012 21:42 Megabuster123 wrote:On February 09 2012 21:40 xongnox wrote:
Strange play from Nestea, in a decisive map... See phoenixes+mass blink stalkers ? make mutas. See collossus ? mass zerglings. Then die miserably.
And they are still people to think he's the best Z in the world ? (IMO DRG, Leenock and Stephano are better than him from a long time now ) That's a huge boost...Stephano is not better than Nestea. You have no reason to believe that. No reason? Stephano has been beasting it up hardcore lately, and Nestea not so much... Problem is Stephano doesn't compete with koreans often so it s hard to know precisely at what level he is compared to them. I look forward to the Iron Squid to see that. If he wins Iron Squid, it will be one more proof that he is one of the best (if not the best) zerg players in the world Doing well as a foreigner doesn't put you on the same level as a 3 time GSL Champion. You still have no reason to believe he's better than Nestea. Nestea was good, and was without any doubt the best Z in the world, but it's a very long time ago. Since this he just lose to random 2nd-class Korean player. That's all. And Stephano really good atm. Except all we see of Stephano is him beating foreigners that also get rolled by Koreans...>_> There's no positive evidence for Stephano being any better than any Korean zerg. The ironsquid tournament will settle this But Stephano going 2-2 in his Blizzcup group was a pretty good performance. (and getting to top20 in the Kor ladder when you compare it to Idra's for instance, still gives a small idea) edit : wanted to edit and not quote >< Ladder is meh.
God.
Yes. But when you compare it to another person's ladder performance you still can get an idea.
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haha, it's a probe rave party in MKP's view
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On February 09 2012 21:56 MrCon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 21:54 Megabuster123 wrote:On February 09 2012 21:53 xongnox wrote:On February 09 2012 21:47 Megabuster123 wrote:On February 09 2012 21:45 SolidMustard wrote:On February 09 2012 21:42 Megabuster123 wrote:On February 09 2012 21:40 xongnox wrote:
Strange play from Nestea, in a decisive map... See phoenixes+mass blink stalkers ? make mutas. See collossus ? mass zerglings. Then die miserably.
And they are still people to think he's the best Z in the world ? (IMO DRG, Leenock and Stephano are better than him from a long time now ) That's a huge boost...Stephano is not better than Nestea. You have no reason to believe that. No reason? Stephano has been beasting it up hardcore lately, and Nestea not so much... Problem is Stephano doesn't compete with koreans often so it s hard to know precisely at what level he is compared to them. I look forward to the Iron Squid to see that. If he wins Iron Squid, it will be one more proof that he is one of the best (if not the best) zerg players in the world Doing well as a foreigner doesn't put you on the same level as a 3 time GSL Champion. You still have no reason to believe he's better than Nestea. Nestea was good, and was without any doubt the best Z in the world, but it's a very long time ago. Since this he just lose to random 2nd-class Korean player. That's all. And Stephano really good atm. Except all we see of Stephano is him beating foreigners that also get rolled by Koreans...>_> There's no positive evidence for Stephano being any better than any Korean zerg. The ironsquid tournament will settle this But Stephano going 2-2 in his Blizzcup group was a pretty good performance.
It really depends how much Stephano has developed his play now. Code S this season is NOTHING like the code S in the previous seasons. Everyone in code S now is playing at MVP Nestea level of last year and better. Stephano's style doesnt stand a chance against modern korean code S play
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On February 09 2012 22:00 Williammm wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2012 21:56 MrCon wrote:On February 09 2012 21:54 Megabuster123 wrote:On February 09 2012 21:53 xongnox wrote:On February 09 2012 21:47 Megabuster123 wrote:On February 09 2012 21:45 SolidMustard wrote:On February 09 2012 21:42 Megabuster123 wrote:On February 09 2012 21:40 xongnox wrote:
Strange play from Nestea, in a decisive map... See phoenixes+mass blink stalkers ? make mutas. See collossus ? mass zerglings. Then die miserably.
And they are still people to think he's the best Z in the world ? (IMO DRG, Leenock and Stephano are better than him from a long time now ) That's a huge boost...Stephano is not better than Nestea. You have no reason to believe that. No reason? Stephano has been beasting it up hardcore lately, and Nestea not so much... Problem is Stephano doesn't compete with koreans often so it s hard to know precisely at what level he is compared to them. I look forward to the Iron Squid to see that. If he wins Iron Squid, it will be one more proof that he is one of the best (if not the best) zerg players in the world Doing well as a foreigner doesn't put you on the same level as a 3 time GSL Champion. You still have no reason to believe he's better than Nestea. Nestea was good, and was without any doubt the best Z in the world, but it's a very long time ago. Since this he just lose to random 2nd-class Korean player. That's all. And Stephano really good atm. Except all we see of Stephano is him beating foreigners that also get rolled by Koreans...>_> There's no positive evidence for Stephano being any better than any Korean zerg. The ironsquid tournament will settle this But Stephano going 2-2 in his Blizzcup group was a pretty good performance. It really depends how much Stephano has developed his play now. Code S this season is NOTHING like the code S in the previous seasons. Everyone in code S now is playing at MVP Nestea level of last year and better. Stephano's style doesnt stand a chance against modern korean code S play
Yep, true, code S level is just ridiculous now, it's insane.
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