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Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
February 09 2012 13:01 GMT
#3281
I know that feeling Genius. I attack the damn factory every goddamn time and they waddle up the ramp.

Difference is...Genius doesn't lose and feel retarded like I do T_T
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
February 09 2012 13:01 GMT
#3282
On February 09 2012 22:00 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 21:59 Megabuster123 wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:57 MrCon wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:56 MrCon wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:54 Megabuster123 wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:53 xongnox wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:47 Megabuster123 wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:45 SolidMustard wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:42 Megabuster123 wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:40 xongnox wrote:
Strange play from Nestea, in a decisive map... See phoenixes+mass blink stalkers ? make mutas. See collossus ? mass zerglings. Then die miserably.
And they are still people to think he's the best Z in the world ? (IMO DRG, Leenock and Stephano are better than him from a long time now )

That's a huge boost...Stephano is not better than Nestea. You have no reason to believe that.


No reason? Stephano has been beasting it up hardcore lately, and Nestea not so much... Problem is Stephano doesn't compete with koreans often so it s hard to know precisely at what level he is compared to them. I look forward to the Iron Squid to see that. If he wins Iron Squid, it will be one more proof that he is one of the best (if not the best) zerg players in the world


Doing well as a foreigner doesn't put you on the same level as a 3 time GSL Champion.

You still have no reason to believe he's better than Nestea.

Nestea was good, and was without any doubt the best Z in the world, but it's a very long time ago. Since this he just lose to random 2nd-class Korean player. That's all. And Stephano really good atm.

Except all we see of Stephano is him beating foreigners that also get rolled by Koreans...>_>

There's no positive evidence for Stephano being any better than any Korean zerg.

The ironsquid tournament will settle this But Stephano going 2-2 in his Blizzcup group was a pretty good performance.

(and getting to top20 in the Kor ladder when you compare it to Idra's for instance, still gives a small idea)
edit : wanted to edit and not quote ><

Ladder is meh.

God.
Yes. But when you compare it to another person's ladder performance you still can get an idea.

But MU vs MU. You can have a guy like Idra who's shitty vP tanks his ladder rank, vs a more rounded player like stephano who basically plays the same in every mu.
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
February 09 2012 13:01 GMT
#3283
On February 09 2012 22:00 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 21:59 Megabuster123 wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:57 MrCon wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:56 MrCon wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:54 Megabuster123 wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:53 xongnox wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:47 Megabuster123 wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:45 SolidMustard wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:42 Megabuster123 wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:40 xongnox wrote:
Strange play from Nestea, in a decisive map... See phoenixes+mass blink stalkers ? make mutas. See collossus ? mass zerglings. Then die miserably.
And they are still people to think he's the best Z in the world ? (IMO DRG, Leenock and Stephano are better than him from a long time now )

That's a huge boost...Stephano is not better than Nestea. You have no reason to believe that.


No reason? Stephano has been beasting it up hardcore lately, and Nestea not so much... Problem is Stephano doesn't compete with koreans often so it s hard to know precisely at what level he is compared to them. I look forward to the Iron Squid to see that. If he wins Iron Squid, it will be one more proof that he is one of the best (if not the best) zerg players in the world


Doing well as a foreigner doesn't put you on the same level as a 3 time GSL Champion.

You still have no reason to believe he's better than Nestea.

Nestea was good, and was without any doubt the best Z in the world, but it's a very long time ago. Since this he just lose to random 2nd-class Korean player. That's all. And Stephano really good atm.

Except all we see of Stephano is him beating foreigners that also get rolled by Koreans...>_>

There's no positive evidence for Stephano being any better than any Korean zerg.

The ironsquid tournament will settle this But Stephano going 2-2 in his Blizzcup group was a pretty good performance.

(and getting to top20 in the Kor ladder when you compare it to Idra's for instance, still gives a small idea)
edit : wanted to edit and not quote ><

Ladder is meh.

God.
Yes. But when you compare it to another person's ladder performance you still can get an idea.

No. Ladder is all about playing much, not good. A lot of players also dont take it serious. He only can prove himself in the GSL, nowhere else
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37118 Posts
February 09 2012 13:01 GMT
#3284
On February 09 2012 21:58 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 21:54 Seeker wrote:
MKP
vs
Genius

on Antiga Shipyard 1.2

MKP at bottom left

Genius at top right

First 5 minutes

MKP opens no rax double

Genius opens 1 gate gas

MKP grabbing his barracks

Genius chrono boosts out a zealot

MKP grabbing 2 barracks now

Genius expanding after the 1 gate

MKP grabbing his 2nd orbital
MKP's scouting scv misses the zealot of Genius

Genius brings in 1 probe and a zealot

MKP now has to micro a bit

Genius gets JACK SQUAT and backs off


5 - 10 minutes

MKP now going up to 6 RAX

OMFG!!!! 6 RAXXXXXXXXX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Genius getting 3 gates

MKP keeping up his constant production of marines

Genius moving in with a stalker to get any scouting scvs

MKP micros around a zealot AND a stalk-....... nvm scv died
MKP moves out with a TON of marines

Genius is now aware of the # of marines but NOT AWARE that MKP has SO MANY MORE in the back

MKP moving in with a fuckton of units

Battle ensues

MKP kiting like crazy

Genius does hold off the attack very well

MKP still sending a constant stream of marines

Genius is forced to keep spawning units to try to fight this off
Genius loses all his sentries
Genius HAS held off the attack however

MKP now transitioning to MMM

Genius now getting colossi


10 - 15 minutes

Genius with dual forge
Genius with colossi on the way

MKP now has to be very careful
MKP grabbing his 3rd

Genius increasing his gate #
Genius getting a ncie army to take on MKP's army

MKP moves out however

Genius is unaware that MKP has moved out
Genius DOES have 2 colossi

MKP baits Genius' army with a factory

Battle ensues

MKP stims and starts fighting but....

Colossi force MKP to back off

Genius now with 3 colossi

MKP grabbing his 3rd orbital
MKP getting ghosts

Genius doing a good job of upgrading his attacks

MKP does have vikings now
MKP scans and kills the observer of Genius

Genius is stuck on 2 base
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 13:02:58
February 09 2012 13:02 GMT
#3285
Genius y u no take 3rd -___-

Or just go kill him lol
artrea
Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia3560 Posts
February 09 2012 13:02 GMT
#3286
Looks like Genius with a huge lead now
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 13:06:02
February 09 2012 13:02 GMT
#3287
On February 09 2012 21:57 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 21:56 MrCon wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:54 Megabuster123 wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:53 xongnox wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:47 Megabuster123 wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:45 SolidMustard wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:42 Megabuster123 wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:40 xongnox wrote:
Strange play from Nestea, in a decisive map... See phoenixes+mass blink stalkers ? make mutas. See collossus ? mass zerglings. Then die miserably.
And they are still people to think he's the best Z in the world ? (IMO DRG, Leenock and Stephano are better than him from a long time now )

That's a huge boost...Stephano is not better than Nestea. You have no reason to believe that.


No reason? Stephano has been beasting it up hardcore lately, and Nestea not so much... Problem is Stephano doesn't compete with koreans often so it s hard to know precisely at what level he is compared to them. I look forward to the Iron Squid to see that. If he wins Iron Squid, it will be one more proof that he is one of the best (if not the best) zerg players in the world


Doing well as a foreigner doesn't put you on the same level as a 3 time GSL Champion.

You still have no reason to believe he's better than Nestea.

Nestea was good, and was without any doubt the best Z in the world, but it's a very long time ago. Since this he just lose to random 2nd-class Korean player. That's all. And Stephano really good atm.

Except all we see of Stephano is him beating foreigners that also get rolled by Koreans...>_>

There's no positive evidence for Stephano being any better than any Korean zerg.

The ironsquid tournament will settle this But Stephano going 2-2 in his Blizzcup group was a pretty good performance.

(and getting to top20 in the Kor ladder when you compare it to Idra's for instance, also gives a small idea)
edit : wanted to edit and not quote ><

I don't think it will. Remember when boxer did that build that destroyed stephano at MLG? the hellion marine push. That's what you're going to get if you go to the GSL. Koreans will take their time to study your play and prepare builds for you, something that you won't find on foreigner lan evens since they last for less than a week.

Edit: Not saying that stephano isn't good, he is pretty much the best foreigner zerg right now, I'm just saying that we can't say that he would be able to do well in the GSL because it is a much different environment.
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
February 09 2012 13:03 GMT
#3288
manner nexus time
Pyre
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1940 Posts
February 09 2012 13:03 GMT
#3289
MKP injuring every collosi, killing none
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37118 Posts
February 09 2012 13:03 GMT
#3290
On February 09 2012 22:01 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2012 21:58 Seeker wrote:
On February 09 2012 21:54 Seeker wrote:
MKP
vs
Genius

on Antiga Shipyard 1.2

MKP at bottom left

Genius at top right

First 5 minutes

MKP opens no rax double

Genius opens 1 gate gas

MKP grabbing his barracks

Genius chrono boosts out a zealot

MKP grabbing 2 barracks now

Genius expanding after the 1 gate

MKP grabbing his 2nd orbital
MKP's scouting scv misses the zealot of Genius

Genius brings in 1 probe and a zealot

MKP now has to micro a bit

Genius gets JACK SQUAT and backs off


5 - 10 minutes

MKP now going up to 6 RAX

OMFG!!!! 6 RAXXXXXXXXX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Genius getting 3 gates

MKP keeping up his constant production of marines

Genius moving in with a stalker to get any scouting scvs

MKP micros around a zealot AND a stalk-....... nvm scv died
MKP moves out with a TON of marines

Genius is now aware of the # of marines but NOT AWARE that MKP has SO MANY MORE in the back

MKP moving in with a fuckton of units

Battle ensues

MKP kiting like crazy

Genius does hold off the attack very well

MKP still sending a constant stream of marines

Genius is forced to keep spawning units to try to fight this off
Genius loses all his sentries
Genius HAS held off the attack however

MKP now transitioning to MMM

Genius now getting colossi


10 - 15 minutes

Genius with dual forge
Genius with colossi on the way

MKP now has to be very careful
MKP grabbing his 3rd

Genius increasing his gate #
Genius getting a ncie army to take on MKP's army

MKP moves out however

Genius is unaware that MKP has moved out
Genius DOES have 2 colossi

MKP baits Genius' army with a factory

Battle ensues

MKP stims and starts fighting but....

Colossi force MKP to back off

Genius now with 3 colossi

MKP grabbing his 3rd orbital
MKP getting ghosts

Genius doing a good job of upgrading his attacks

MKP does have vikings now
MKP scans and kills the observer of Genius

Genius is stuck on 2 base


15 - 20 minutes

Battle ensues

TOO - MANY - COLOSSI!!!!!

MKP'S ENTIRE ARMY JUST MELTS!!!

GENIUS RIPPING THROUGH EVERRRRRYYYYTHINGGGGG

MKP forced to lift his 3rd

Genius now has such a significant supply lead that MKP is in a FUCKTON of trouble
Genius goes in for the final attack

MKP GGs

MKP 1 - 1 Genius
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37118 Posts
February 09 2012 13:03 GMT
#3291
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 2?

Yes (18)
 
64%

No (7)
 
25%

If you have time (3)
 
11%

28 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
February 09 2012 13:03 GMT
#3292
never change Genius, please never change
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
February 09 2012 13:03 GMT
#3293
why take 3rd? only delays amove win
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Williammm
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia908 Posts
February 09 2012 13:03 GMT
#3294
GO GENIUS!!! Give me my MVP vs MVP finals!!
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
February 09 2012 13:03 GMT
#3295
Come on MKP! You can do it!
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
February 09 2012 13:03 GMT
#3296
needs more vikings
FTD
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
February 09 2012 13:03 GMT
#3297
Very nicely played by Genius, come on, bring it home!
frucisky
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2170 Posts
February 09 2012 13:03 GMT
#3298
Actually now I really want genius through
<3 DongRaeGu <3
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
February 09 2012 13:03 GMT
#3299
Gas-less 5rax is such a bad build.
I've got moves like Jagger
Fortuna.424
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany174 Posts
February 09 2012 13:03 GMT
#3300
2 base toss all the way
I like Zerglings... and Banelings... and also Roaches... well, i like ZERG
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