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DamageControL
United States4222 Posts
On February 06 2012 13:26 mordk wrote: Congratulations TL!... 2 great things at once: Love seeing TL win, love seeing EG lose  Hatred aside, EG is really doing terrible right now, maybe single competitions will bring them some wins You can't build a team from just rando hires, i think. | ||
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Yamulo
United States2096 Posts
On February 06 2012 12:48 Hazuc wrote: How can you say such a thing? They were not playing in any tournament before they went with EG. I guess GSL is not a tourney? Seriously, they were both big names in korea when they were picked up, and puma went to NASL s1 on TSL. I also wonder how many people remember how big of a monster Puma was for TSL in the gstl. However, I don't agree with that guy, it is way to early to tell if they are getting worse, and it is also a really douche thing to say imo. | ||
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ChuCky.Ca
Canada2497 Posts
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Yamulo
United States2096 Posts
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devPLEASE
Kenya605 Posts
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Whatson
United States5357 Posts
On February 06 2012 14:17 Yamulo wrote: Just a general question, but why do so many people seem to doubt zenio? I think people really don't understand that he is a code S zerg (well up/downs now, but still). Maybe cause he's bad against terrans and korean tosses? I just think people haven't seen him play as much as other TL players, so they are naturally cautious. | ||
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dcemuser
United States3248 Posts
On February 06 2012 14:14 Yamulo wrote: I guess GSL is not a tourney? Seriously, they were both big names in korea when they were picked up, and puma went to NASL s1 on TSL. I also wonder how many people remember how big of a monster Puma was for TSL in the gstl. However, I don't agree with that guy, it is way to early to tell if they are getting worse, and it is also a really douche thing to say imo. To be completely fair, tons of players who were dominating in Code S in the time period you're talking about (around 10-12 months ago) are not even in the GSL any more. Puma's play for TSL consisted of what... 10 games? 10 games does not a player make. | ||
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ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
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Oreo7
United States1647 Posts
On February 06 2012 14:22 Whatson wrote: Maybe cause he's bad against terrans and korean tosses? I just think people haven't seen him play as much as other TL players, so they are naturally cautious. Korean tosses like JYP the best or at least top 3 Korean pvz? | ||
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MVTaylor
United Kingdom2893 Posts
Losing 3/3 in the NASTL Losing 1/1 in the IPL TAC IdrA, HuK and JYP losing in GSL with two being knocked to Code B DeMu losing to BlinG and losing 3-0 to Illusion in the IEM Sao Paulo qualifier Losing Axslav and StrifeCro Compared to the positives of... beating vVv in a clan war, JYP getting third at HSC4 and qualifying for the IEM Season 6 final and DeMusliM actually getting a spot at IEM Sao Paulo by another player dropping out. Dear oh dear. | ||
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Whatson
United States5357 Posts
On February 06 2012 14:32 Oreo7 wrote: Korean tosses like JYP the best or at least top 3 Korean pvz? Well he has lost to HongUn, Puzzle, Sage, Genius, Ace and Choya all last year in the GSL. It's improved a lot though. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
On February 06 2012 14:35 mvtaylor wrote: Wow EG have been putting in some shambolic performances in 2012. Losing 3/3 in the NASTL Losing 1/1 in the IPL TAC IdrA, HuK and JYP losing in GSL with two being knocked to Code B DeMu losing to BlinG and losing 3-0 to Illusion in the IEM Sao Paulo qualifier Losing Axslav and StrifeCro Compared to the positives of... beating vVv in a clan war, JYP getting third at HSC4 and qualifying for the IEM Season 6 final and DeMusliM actually getting a spot at IEM Sao Paulo by another player dropping out. Dear oh dear. To be fair, they can probably still bank on having 3 players in the GSL as opposed to Liquid's two. As far As I know, all EG and Liquid GSL players are in Code A, correct? If we exclude all Koreans, EG is still the most successful team by a fairly large margin.If we're including Koreans, no foreign team really comes close, even if they have Korean players. Things just don't look that great for non-Korean players in general.  | ||
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
On February 06 2012 14:37 hmunkey wrote: To be fair, they can probably still bank on having 3 players in the GSL as opposed to Liquid's two. As far As I know, all EG and Liquid GSL players are in Code A, correct? If we exclude all Koreans, EG is still the most successful team by a fairly large margin.If we're including Koreans, no foreign team really comes close, even if they have Korean players. only jyp is in the gsl. | ||
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
Zenio, Idra, Hero, and Huk are too -- they're just all in Code A. It doesn't look like Puma is in the GSL though. Haha, wow I'm really behind the times. Code A started already so I'm completely wrong. Ignore this. I thought the Lunar New Year would delay GSL longer than it did and the times are kinda horrible for me to watch. | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10346 Posts
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Olinimm
1471 Posts
On February 06 2012 14:40 hmunkey wrote: Zenio, Idra, Hero, and Huk are too -- they're just all in Code A. It doesn't look like Puma is in the GSL though. No huk and idra got eliminated in Code A ro48. They are in Code B. | ||
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
On February 06 2012 14:41 Olinimm wrote: No huk and idra got eliminated in Code A ro48. They are in Code B. Yeah I'm an idiot; see above. | ||
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LlamaNamedOsama
United States1900 Posts
On February 06 2012 14:37 hmunkey wrote: To be fair, they can probably still bank on having 3 players in the GSL as opposed to Liquid's two. As far As I know, all EG and Liquid GSL players are in Code A, correct? If we exclude all Koreans, EG is still the most successful team by a fairly large margin.If we're including Koreans, no foreign team really comes close, even if they have Korean players. Things just don't look that great for non-Korean players in general. ? If you're talking about the present, EG has only one player left in GSL [JYP]. If you're talking about the past, then Liquid has had plenty in GSL beyond Hero and Zenio [Jinro, Sheth, Ret, and if you're counting open seasons, TLO and Haypro]. Even in the not too distant past, EG has only had the most players in GSL because they hired them after they already reached GSL code S, whereas you could point to Liquid as arguably being the staging point where Huk made Code A/S. This is not to hate on EG, though, I love them, just not as much as Liquid  , but it's pretty undeniable that they just aren't that successful in 2012 so far. | ||
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