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dormer
United States1314 Posts
On January 31 2012 01:32 HuKPOWA wrote: guess u missed the 2-1 upgrades to 3-3 eh? was meant for the first post  He presumably meant shells and shields, which Asha' mentioned. Ninja edited, nevermind >.> | ||
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Moriarty
United Kingdom286 Posts
On January 31 2012 01:32 Itsmedudeman wrote: Something must've happened. You don't randomly forget two upgrades like that when literally nothing is happening and also he somehow fell behind in supply at around 120~ which like never happens. I think the lag had a part in it. Or maybe that he's human and humans make mistakes. | ||
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
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brrip
United Kingdom211 Posts
On January 31 2012 01:33 Moriarty wrote: Or maybe that he's human and humans make mistakes. no dude, he's korean. that's not allowed. | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
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MyLastSerenade
Germany710 Posts
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On January 31 2012 01:30 WigglingSquid wrote: Jjakji is dead.  Nice play by Creator, really solid. Solid? His play was risky as hell, especially as his first Observer got immediately denied... Third before Colossus while on 3 gates, dual forge while he didn't even know if JJakji was going some kind of 2-bases push (Marine/Tanks comes to mind), Colossus range finished at 14'... His blind risks paid off because JJakji was so passive (and it happened that he went dual expand), but I wouldn't call this “solid” with the zero intel he had until some point (I guess his second Observer scouted JJakji's plan). | ||
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Klonere
Ireland4123 Posts
Gratz to Prime though, well played! | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On January 31 2012 01:33 Moriarty wrote: Or maybe that he's human and humans make mistakes. A GSL champion who practices 8+ hours a day going into a matchup where you need no more than 50 apm when both players are turtling don't make bad mechanical mistakes like that for no reason. | ||
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Khai
Australia553 Posts
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MyTHicaL
France1070 Posts
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
On January 31 2012 01:36 TheDwf wrote: Solid? His play was risky as hell, especially as his first Observer got immediately denied... Third before Colossus while on 3 gates, dual forge while he didn't even know if JJakji was going some kind of 2-bases push (Marine/Tanks comes to mind), Colossus range finished at 14'... His blind risks paid off because JJakji was so passive (and it happened that he went dual expand), but I wouldn't call this “solid” with the zero intel he had until some point (I guess his second Observer scouted JJakji's plan). Khaldor didn't show it, but I think Creator actually had 3 Observers. Of those 3, two were picked off but the middle one got in and saw shit. He also saw Jjakji's MMM ball with his first Observer, so he knew anyway that there wasn't some Marine/Tank push. Also, if you are that good, you can probably judge from the unit composition what build you opponent went, especially vs Terran where there are only a few standard 2base builds. | ||
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kubiks
France1328 Posts
On January 31 2012 01:32 devPLEASE wrote: Wow Creator with the upset. Now let's see him do that in the GSL. Well an upset, creator was known before jikaji when he managed to put up a fight vs IMMVP in the super tournament, and since he did really good performances in the teamleague. I would have been surprised if someone else that MKP,BongBong or creator took him down. | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On January 31 2012 01:46 SeaSwift wrote: He also saw Jjakji's MMM ball with his first Observer. By which time, if I remember correctly, he had already committed to his dual forge. On January 31 2012 01:46 SeaSwift wrote: Also, if you are that good, you can probably judge from the unit composition what build you opponent went, especially vs Terran where there are only a few standard 2base builds. Sorry, but no Protoss in the world is able to know if the Terran went single or dual expand upon seeing some Marines killing his first Observer. For all he knew, there could be 20 unseen Marines behind. All Creator could say at this point was, “okay, JJakji is going some kind of bio play,” but anyway he had gone dual forge before that, and he still couldn't know if JJakji was planning to play standard, or dual EB, or early third, or two-bases all-in, with or without Medivacs, etc. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On January 31 2012 02:00 MrCon wrote: He only had 3 gates (I think), but he got his robo bay very quickly. Double forge is way more solid if you get colossus quickly (the opponent can still hit a 2 or 3 minutes window). What I mean is that even if he was mostly blind, he was also mostly safe as he took his 3rd relatively late and had quick colossi. He built his RoboBay after his third, and did not have Colossus range before the 14' mark. And 6-range Colossi are not so hot against stimmed Marauders abruptly moving forward for a quick snipe. | ||
Poopi
France13023 Posts
Oh and for those who are surprised by the results, I warned you :D, Prime is in a very good shape right now, Creator is one of the best protoss out there and maybe the scariest one in teamleagues and MarineKing is a boss in teamleague again. Their KSL victory is only the beginning  | ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On January 31 2012 02:27 Poopi wrote: I missed the games, are the vods available already? Oh and for those who are surprised by the results, I warned you :D, Prime is in a very good shape right now, Creator is one of the best protoss out there and maybe the scariest one in teamleagues and MarineKing is a boss in teamleague again. Their KSL victory is only the beginning Yep, http://www.own3d.tv/KhaldorTV. | ||
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WigglingSquid
5194 Posts
On January 31 2012 02:27 Poopi wrote: I missed the games, are the vods available already? Oh and for those who are surprised by the results, I warned you :D Good job predicting that Jjakji would have forgot both concussive shells and combat shields. You truly are a wizard. =P | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46669 Posts
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