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[KSL] Finals: Prime vs NSHoSeo (30/1/2012) - Page 15

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antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
January 30 2012 17:53 GMT
#281
On January 31 2012 02:37 WigglingSquid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 02:27 Poopi wrote:
I missed the games, are the vods available already?
Oh and for those who are surprised by the results, I warned you :D

Good job predicting that Jjakji would have forgot both concussive shells and combat shields. You truly are a wizard. =P

To be fair, creator forgot charge with a fuckton of zealots.
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
January 30 2012 18:11 GMT
#282
Was there any prize money for the finals? What did Prime win?
Marines > everything
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
January 30 2012 18:17 GMT
#283
Jjakji blind countered Creator's style if anything, just because Creator does pretty much the same thing every game vs Terran. 1 rax CC CC into double eng bay, slightly delayed starport is about as good a macro opening as you could have vs Creator's style.

On January 31 2012 01:36 TheDwf wrote:
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On January 31 2012 01:30 WigglingSquid wrote:
Jjakji is dead.
Nice play by Creator, really solid.

Solid? His play was risky as hell, especially as his first Observer got immediately denied... Third before Colossus while on 3 gates, dual forge while he didn't even know if JJakji was going some kind of 2-bases push (Marine/Tanks comes to mind), Colossus range finished at 14'... His blind risks paid off because JJakji was so passive (and it happened that he went dual expand), but I wouldn't call this “solid” with the zero intel he had until some point (I guess his second Observer scouted JJakji's plan).

Marine/tank is not very good at all on Daybreak, because of the large rush distance and the path to the natural. Therefore, it's quite common to be able to rule that out on this map.
Creator's 2nd observer also saw everything he needed to. If it saw a bio push coming, he had more than enough time to cancel the nexus and throw down a few cannons. It saw everything at 9:05. For reference, the most common bio push, the 2 ghost timing, hits a bit before 10:00 on normal maps, probably around 10:00 on Daybreak.

On January 31 2012 01:46 SeaSwift wrote:
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On January 31 2012 01:36 TheDwf wrote:
On January 31 2012 01:30 WigglingSquid wrote:
Jjakji is dead.
Nice play by Creator, really solid.

Solid? His play was risky as hell, especially as his first Observer got immediately denied... Third before Colossus while on 3 gates, dual forge while he didn't even know if JJakji was going some kind of 2-bases push (Marine/Tanks comes to mind), Colossus range finished at 14'... His blind risks paid off because JJakji was so passive (and it happened that he went dual expand), but I wouldn't call this “solid” with the zero intel he had until some point (I guess his second Observer scouted JJakji's plan).


Khaldor didn't show it, but I think Creator actually had 3 Observers. Of those 3, two were picked off but the middle one got in and saw shit. He also saw Jjakji's MMM ball with his first Observer, so he knew anyway that there wasn't some Marine/Tank push.

Also, if you are that good, you can probably judge from the unit composition what build you opponent went, especially vs Terran where there are only a few standard 2base builds.

Creator actually made 4 observers before any colossi, 2 of which got sniped immediately.
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