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[NASTL] EG vs FXO - Page 2

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Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
January 26 2012 02:57 GMT
#21
Anybody who follows Huk on twitter knows that he has had crazy computer problems and really hasn't been able to practice a lot. So I doubt he'll make an appearance.
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CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
January 26 2012 03:06 GMT
#22
Well regardless of who wins, it'll be good matches... i hope
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KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
January 26 2012 03:07 GMT
#23
Idra Leenock is gonna be fun to watch.
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Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
January 26 2012 03:36 GMT
#24
3-1 FXO, but I do think the ZvZ could be a toss-up. Even if Idra beats Leenock I am not sure if EG could take the Ace match.
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FLuE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1012 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 03:39:08
January 26 2012 03:38 GMT
#25
Damn was hoping to see idra play something other than ZvZ since being in Slayers house.

Two great teams should be a fun one.
goal 888
Profile Joined April 2011
167 Posts
January 26 2012 03:46 GMT
#26
Leenock vs idra OMG
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 04:02:06
January 26 2012 04:00 GMT
#27
3-1 FXO.

edit:

Idra could perhaps take his game. I always think DeMu is overhyped.
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mcgriffin
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada81 Posts
January 26 2012 04:13 GMT
#28
wow really? I think EG's line-up already got meta-gamed (EG fan here)

sad to see IdrA not given the chance of performing his best match-up
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
January 26 2012 04:19 GMT
#29
If FXO is as sloppy as they were against Vile and Reign, this could be extremely close, if not a win for EG.

For some reason, FXO hasn't been performing well in these online team leagues.
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
January 26 2012 04:19 GMT
#30
This format where the teams don't know who's playing who kind of sucks. A big draw to GSTL is seeing who the coach will send out next. With this format, you may just well just string a bunch of ladder games in a row and call it a day.
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
January 26 2012 04:25 GMT
#31
On January 26 2012 13:13 mcgriffin wrote:
wow really? I think EG's line-up already got meta-gamed (EG fan here)

sad to see IdrA not given the chance of performing his best match-up


That's funny, considering his opponent has better ZvT than him. I was actually thinking the direct opposite - I think FXO got shafted.

None of the FXO guys are playing their best matchups either. Lucky's strength is ZvP, Asd's strength is TvP, Leenock obviously ZvT, and who the hell knows about PvP anymore. The best matchups for FXO would be Asd/JYP, Leenock/Demuslim, Lucky/Puma, and Choya/Idra.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
January 26 2012 04:25 GMT
#32
I think FXO isn't up to par due to KR-NA lag, but most of the matchups here should be on the KR server.
that said, Puma and JYP will probably make it 2-0. Up to asd to take out DeMuslim and then Leenock to take out IdrA.
Ace match is hopefully KR-KR so no lag issues there.
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00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
January 26 2012 04:29 GMT
#33
I agree that this format has flaws. Mainly because we have tons of mirrors if teams send players based on maps.
Some loser-pick format work still work (loser picks player last and/or map).
jhlee820
Profile Joined June 2011
149 Posts
January 26 2012 04:37 GMT
#34
Aahh so many mirror match ups! Should still be quite fun though. Interesting to see Choya playing in all these teamleague matches (IPL TAC, NASTL, GSTL). Hope he does well because it's always cool to see coaches owning it up and showing players how it's done.
89andy
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada192 Posts
January 26 2012 05:08 GMT
#35
winners league is way funner. This format sucks balls honestly its a crapshoot.
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 05:10:42
January 26 2012 05:08 GMT
#36
EG 1<3 FXO

Puma<Lucky
-Not only is lucky an insane beast, but Bel'shir is a very good map for zerg in TvZ. Personally i'm suprised that we aren't seeing someone like Idra or perhaps a sacrificial Incontrol (sorry inc).

JYP>Choya
-Choya just isn't that good, and definitely not the same level as JYP. Seems like an easy win for the EG toss, and feels like FXO were just throwing choya out to save a big hitter (kind of like what EG should've done for Bel'shir since Idra apparently has issues with ZvZ)

DeMuslim<asd
-Demuslim just isn't up to snuff to face a mid-low tier Code S player. The thinness of EG's lineup kind of shows here-saving HuK for ace or him not playing to wait for his gsl games is really hurting the first 4 games.

Idra<Leenock
-While ZvZ is traditionally coinflippy, Leenock is really good. REALLY good. Also of note is the fact that Idra got slugged in the GSL, which might make the difference between us seeing the gracken or seeing your average GM player.

Overall, EG's reliance on the Korean Factor is hurting them in this league-with HuK reserved for Ace match or not playing because of GSL, EG is limited to a mid tier korean terran, a high-mid tier korean protoss, and idra. Against a team like FXO, it will most definitely not be the deep enough to take the match, although they might push it to ace.

Edit:
winners league is way funner. This format sucks balls honestly its a crapshoot.


Uh, no, winners league is a crapshoot. While it would be better if it was 6+ace, it still emphasizes teams with depth over teams that only have a few top-tier players and are filled with mediocrity the rest of the way down (KT/EG).
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
January 26 2012 05:14 GMT
#37
On January 26 2012 14:08 Active.815 wrote:
JYP>Choya
-Choya just isn't that good, and definitely not the same level as JYP. Seems like an easy win for the EG toss, and feels like FXO were just throwing choya out to save a big hitter (kind of like what EG should've done for Bel'shir since Idra apparently has issues with ZvZ)


Choya has had some impressive showings in the smaller leagues like KSL and FXO Invitational #5, beating some good players like sC so I wouldn't count him out so quickly, especially in PvP.
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Rampager
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia1007 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-26 05:19:29
January 26 2012 05:18 GMT
#38
I <3 Proleague format. I <3 Winners format. NASTL is awesome, IPL TAC is awesome. I would have to lend my favour to proleague formats though, as exciting as all-kills are I love the refinement of the proleague format more.

89andy
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada192 Posts
January 26 2012 05:19 GMT
#39
On January 26 2012 14:08 Active.815 wrote:
EG 1<3 FXO

Puma<Lucky
-Not only is lucky an insane beast, but Bel'shir is a very good map for zerg in TvZ. Personally i'm suprised that we aren't seeing someone like Idra or perhaps a sacrificial Incontrol (sorry inc).

JYP>Choya
-Choya just isn't that good, and definitely not the same level as JYP. Seems like an easy win for the EG toss, and feels like FXO were just throwing choya out to save a big hitter (kind of like what EG should've done for Bel'shir since Idra apparently has issues with ZvZ)

DeMuslim<asd
-Demuslim just isn't up to snuff to face a mid-low tier Code S player. The thinness of EG's lineup kind of shows here-saving HuK for ace or him not playing to wait for his gsl games is really hurting the first 4 games.

Idra<Leenock
-While ZvZ is traditionally coinflippy, Leenock is really good. REALLY good. Also of note is the fact that Idra got slugged in the GSL, which might make the difference between us seeing the gracken or seeing your average GM player.

Overall, EG's reliance on the Korean Factor is hurting them in this league-with HuK reserved for Ace match or not playing because of GSL, EG is limited to a mid tier korean terran, a high-mid tier korean protoss, and idra. Against a team like FXO, it will most definitely not be the deep enough to take the match, although they might push it to ace.

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winners league is way funner. This format sucks balls honestly its a crapshoot.


Uh, no, winners league is a crapshoot. While it would be better if it was 6+ace, it still emphasizes teams with depth over teams that only have a few top-tier players and are filled with mediocrity the rest of the way down (KT/EG).


its a crapshoot as in theres not much strategy involved with choosing players. It's just metagaming to see if your players get a favourable matchup on a favourable map. There just isn't much preparation that can be done by the player before match ups are revealed. Winners league allows teams to prepare snipes towards top players, and seeing a player win multiple times is far more thrilling.

Now all we get is idra facing yet another zerg, as if we hadn't seen enough with 2 zvz's from idra in the GSL already. I'm way looking forward to the IGN TAL over NASTL for this reason.
obesemk
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway267 Posts
January 26 2012 05:22 GMT
#40
I think fxo will take this with ease. 3-0 or 3-1 with jyp beating choya.
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