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[GSL] 2012 Season 1 Group Nomination Ro16 - Page 56

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justalex
Profile Joined May 2010
United States122 Posts
January 23 2012 16:55 GMT
#1101
On January 22 2012 03:43 Bagration wrote:
I've always wondered why MMA's weakest matchup is Protoss, considering he is a primarily bio player known for his drops and multi-tasking, skills very important in the matchup. Anybody got some insight?



The way you bio is different in all matchups. The overall theme is the same (fast upgrades, making it difficult to hold multiple bases, getting your own bases up quickly), but the end game is a little different. He might not be comfortable in his transitions between ghosts and vikings/medivacs or he could be overextending himself on drops and leaving his main army susceptible to the death ball or any number of other things.


Completely unrelated, but did anyone else watch the SlayerS players talk, but hear Ryung's voice?
goal 888
Profile Joined April 2011
167 Posts
January 23 2012 17:27 GMT
#1102
Group D is soooo good. Can't wait for those games.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
January 23 2012 20:18 GMT
#1103
I nearly setup a LR thread for the open season 3, each day of this week we would have watched it in live condition to fix our GSL dose =)
Lawliet
Profile Joined May 2010
United States70 Posts
January 23 2012 20:51 GMT
#1104
The banter between DRG and Nestea was very amusing.

Caster: Tea ZvZis your best matchup
Tea: yes but I'm confident I can pretty much beat everyone here.

*explains he wanted to pick gumi but MVP wanted him.

Tea then basically says he picked DRG because his team suggested it. The caster then asks if tea wanted DRG. Tea then implies that he did but needed a reason/excuse.

DRG responds by saying he is shocked and will help his opponents practice. Tea then retorts that DRG will be nothing more than a practice partner.

A lot of the older players then joked about how DRG was a terrible human who has no respect (throughout the whole event)

They also speak to supernova because he is always last.

MC said he picked ganzi because they are close and he wants to get into RO8. Ganzi then says MC picked him because MC thinks he is easy picking, so when it's ganzi's turn he picks jakji instead of a Protoss and says we can both beat MC.

Ganzi also said he wants to get into ro4 at least so he can pick MMA. He said he was jealous that MMA gets to go to so many tourneys. A lot of people wanted MMA for some reason.

When puzzle picked parting he said he thinks parting is taking code a too lightly and needs to be taught a lesson.

MC also said PvT is not a problem anymore. All they do is build marauders, botch some drops then roll over and die.

Sorry for the lack of organization. I was just sharing some of my favorite bits.

It was really long so I'm not going to translate everything but if anyone is curious about any specific conversations let me know.
Lawliet
Profile Joined May 2010
United States70 Posts
January 23 2012 20:58 GMT
#1105
On January 21 2012 15:46 tdt wrote:
Predictions;

A: MVP Could use just mouse and win, How did he get so lucky? Second I'd say Curious since both other players looked kinda sloppy.

B: MMA and Oz. MMA is probably the best player in the world right now and Oz is so solid a bit below MC when MC's on but very much more consistant.

C: Jjakji and MC. Ganzi has no chance with BossToss and Verygoodtoss in his group even 1/1/1ing due to 3 maps ea. Parting is not MC.

D: Group D. Uh...WTF? Whatever I'll be glued to LCD.


MVP mind gameD he said he picked gummi knowing he would pick a Zerg.
And since there he knew tea was picking a DRG it was going to be curious. And I guess curious and alive have some kind of rivalry going on (alive got really fired up when he got picked).... Yeah MVP is so godamn smart.

Also OZ said he thinks MC is the best toss but he would be the close second.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
January 23 2012 21:05 GMT
#1106
Thanks for the translations
architecture
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States643 Posts
January 23 2012 21:11 GMT
#1107
How come people think MMA is the best.

Jjajkji and MVP have shown far more solid play.
tpfkan
quickclickz
Profile Joined June 2011
United States81 Posts
January 24 2012 06:44 GMT
#1108
Glad to see MC back in ro16... and I wonder how Genius's sister looks like lol
"Science is a differential equation. Religion is a boundary condition"
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
January 24 2012 06:53 GMT
#1109
On January 24 2012 06:11 architecture wrote:
How come people think MMA is the best.

Jjajkji and MVP have shown far more solid play.

Both Jjajkji and MVP advanced in the last set and 3rd game of that set while MMA completely dominated in his group and just came back with an IEM cup. What do you think? Jjajkji and MVP both have no chance against MMA in TvT for sure.
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
January 24 2012 06:58 GMT
#1110
I miss GSL
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
January 24 2012 06:58 GMT
#1111
On January 24 2012 06:11 architecture wrote:
How come people think MMA is the best.

Jjajkji and MVP have shown far more solid play.


Here's a list of players that are the best:
- MMA
- DRG
- MVP
- Nestea
- ForGG
- MarineKing
- Stephano
- Naniwa

Here's a list of players who are actually the best:
- MVP

Welcome to Team Liquid, where fanboys and one or two Best of 3's equate to the best in the world!
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
power-overwhelming
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada306 Posts
January 24 2012 07:09 GMT
#1112
MVP's hardly the best. His last GSL win was the one before blizzcon. There is no absolute best right now, especially since these "best" players have terrible vP.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
January 24 2012 07:17 GMT
#1113
On January 24 2012 16:09 power-overwhelming wrote:
MVP's hardly the best. His last GSL win was the one before blizzcon. There is no absolute best right now, especially since these "best" players have terrible vP.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_Tournaments

Still more MVP in this than any other player, and that's with recent results in mind.

Besides guys, I know people think the "absolute best" needs to have 95% winrates in all matchups and only lose to the 2nd best player in the world, but I do think MVP can be justifiably the best player in the world.

Of course, it's something that can change and MMA is starting to build up some results so if he wins this GSL, even as a MVP fan, it's pretty likely I'd rate MMA as the best player in the world also.

But yeah, interesting how so many top players say they're struggling with Protoss nowdays. Not that Protoss is cleaning up anywhere anyway...
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Packawana
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1081 Posts
January 24 2012 07:29 GMT
#1114
I feel like at least one of the people if not both players out of Group D will be in the finals for sure. The odds are against it but I think the players can be that good.
"May all your dreaming fill the empty sky."
courtpanda
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
866 Posts
January 24 2012 07:35 GMT
#1115
On January 24 2012 15:58 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 06:11 architecture wrote:
How come people think MMA is the best.

Jjajkji and MVP have shown far more solid play.


Here's a list of players that are the best:
- MMA
- DRG
- MVP
- Nestea
- ForGG
- MarineKing
- Stephano
- Naniwa

Here's a list of players who are actually the best:
- MVP

Welcome to Team Liquid, where fanboys and one or two Best of 3's equate to the best in the world!


heres a list of players that are really the best:
-(Wiki)TheBest
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
January 24 2012 09:34 GMT
#1116
On January 24 2012 15:53 tuho12345 wrote:
Both Jjajkji and MVP advanced in the last set and 3rd game of that set while MMA completely dominated in his group and just came back with an IEM cup. What do you think? Jjajkji and MVP both have no chance against MMA in TvT for sure.

I can assure you MVP most definately have a good shot at winning a TvT vs MMA
"NO" -Has
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
January 24 2012 09:43 GMT
#1117
MMA is probably the best in TvT and TvZ.

His TvP is awful. Like, dogshit compared to other GSL players. For the past couple of seasons he's been lucky in that hardly any Protoss were doing well. This season is the Return of Protoss(tm) so MMA will have his work cut out. Either Oz or MC could beat MMA handily in a TvP in my opinion.
HappyVlane
Profile Joined December 2011
Austria21 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 10:01:21
January 24 2012 09:57 GMT
#1118
On January 24 2012 18:34 kyllinghest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 15:53 tuho12345 wrote:
Both Jjajkji and MVP advanced in the last set and 3rd game of that set while MMA completely dominated in his group and just came back with an IEM cup. What do you think? Jjajkji and MVP both have no chance against MMA in TvT for sure.

I can assure you MVP most definately have a good shot at winning a TvT vs MMA


That's a pretty big assumption to make seeing as how MMA is Mvp's kryptonite.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 10:01:58
January 24 2012 10:01 GMT
#1119
On January 24 2012 15:58 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 06:11 architecture wrote:
How come people think MMA is the best.

Jjajkji and MVP have shown far more solid play.


Here's a list of players that are the best:
- MMA
- DRG
- MVP
- Nestea
- ForGG
- MarineKing
- Stephano
- Naniwa

Here's a list of players who are actually the best:
- MVP

Welcome to Team Liquid, where fanboys and one or two Best of 3's equate to the best in the world!

Please... that list is nothing. You forgot tails, creator, POLT, hyun, leenock, huk, idra, genius, dimaga, kas, white ra, moonglade, ryung, supernova, nada, boxer, taeja, ganzi, sase.... they all have fans who have declared them the best at some point

and obviously CLIIIIIIDDDEEEEEEEE
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LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
January 24 2012 10:25 GMT
#1120
On January 24 2012 16:35 courtpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2012 15:58 bittman wrote:
On January 24 2012 06:11 architecture wrote:
How come people think MMA is the best.

Jjajkji and MVP have shown far more solid play.


Here's a list of players that are the best:
- MMA
- DRG
- MVP
- Nestea
- ForGG
- MarineKing
- Stephano
- Naniwa

Here's a list of players who are actually the best:
- MVP

Welcome to Team Liquid, where fanboys and one or two Best of 3's equate to the best in the world!


heres a list of players that are really the best:
-(Wiki)TheBest


chuckled
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
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